George Floyd / Chauvin trial starts monday

Planning another insurrection yet?

Have you seen the long shot video from the school that shows him throwing the gun away immediately before putting his hands up?

Have you seen the pic from the body cam showing the gun in his right hand before he throws it away?

Stop listening to CNN and start looking at the facts?

Adam Toledo had been missing for two days before he was shot by police. His mother didn't report it. The parental neglect this child suffered is a tragedy. We have a catastrophic parenting problem in this country. In the cities it's even worse.

Kids in the city are running around at 3 AM with loaded guns and a lot of you are pretending that the police are the problem. You don't really want to solve anything. You don't care. You're just posturing. You don't have the guts to tell the truth.

Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or absent fathers?

Children who grow up without a father are:

- 5 times more likely to live in poverty

- 9 times more likely to drop out of school

- 20 times more likely to end up in prison

https://www.prageru.com/video/father-absence-is-the-biggest-issue-facing-black-america/

wazzu1452 wrote:

Adam Toledo had been missing for two days before he was shot by police. His mother didn't report it. The parental neglect this child suffered is a tragedy. We have a catastrophic parenting problem in this country. In the cities it's even worse.

Kids in the city are running around at 3 AM with loaded guns and a lot of you are pretending that the police are the problem. You don't really want to solve anything. You don't care. You're just posturing. You don't have the guts to tell the truth.

Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or absent fathers?

Children who grow up without a father are:

- 5 times more likely to live in poverty

- 9 times more likely to drop out of school

- 20 times more likely to end up in prison

https://www.prageru.com/video/father-absence-is-the-biggest-issue-facing-black-america/

The police seem to have a simple solution, which you endorse, which is to shoot them. Age is not a problem.

Again, the unavoidable conclusion on threads like these is that if black people are killed by police it must have been their fault. And you wonder why black people fear the police.

x hale wrote:

Have you seen the long shot video from the school that shows him throwing the gun away immediately before putting his hands up?

Have you seen the pic from the body cam showing the gun in his right hand before he throws it away?

Stop listening to CNN and start looking at the facts?

Translation:

“Have you seen the video that shows him doing what the officer was asking and then being shot?”

its time people started standing up for the people they pay to protect them, whilst at the same time acknowleding the impossibility of being perfect.

It is extraordinary clearthat the officer did what he had to do in the spur of the moment, forced on him by the threat. darkalley, threat with gun, less than a second to make the right decision. yes he made the wrong decision, but that was forced on him by the threat. he made the oly possible decision at the time.

no threat, no mistake.

and its only a mistake by the outcome. By the facts at the time, it wasnt a mistake, it was the right decision.

The US needs to support, educate, train, assist the police, or else crime is going to soar. oh.......

Most, if not all, of the cases in front of us are less than deserving of the normal amount of sympathy. GF, BT, TM. Why cant you find a saint who has been shot by the police? Your heroes are crop.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Again, the unavoidable conclusion on threads like these is that if black people are killed by police it must have been their fault. And you wonder why black people fear the police.

The kid in question is not black. I know most on here seem to assume he is, but he's not.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Again, the unavoidable conclusion on threads like these is that if black people are killed by police it must have been their fault. And you wonder why black people fear the police.

The stats are not your friend here. More whites killed by police on average.

But generally, the people who get shot are doing something worthy of being shot.

People like you just take a single shot from a video and cry foul.

Who tf said those people are “my heroes”?

hi yawntown. this is a product of the rubbish forum software. i wasnt replying to you specifically, hence not quoting you like i am now, but just posting generically without quoting.

yawn wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Again, the unavoidable conclusion on threads like these is that if black people are killed by police it must have been their fault. And you wonder why black people fear the police.

The stats are not your friend here. More whites killed by police on average.

But generally, the people who get shot are doing something worthy of being shot.

People like you just take a single shot from a video and cry foul.

The journal article below says black men have roughly 2.5 x the risk of being killed by police when compared with white men (96 vs 39 per 100000). Are you talking about absolute number? It wouldn’t make sense to use that number when comparing a majority to a minority.

Too much spin here! Everybody's trying to spin it!

George Floyd was committing Petty crimes oh, he passed a $20 counterfeit bill. He had low levels of drugs in his system

There is video of him joking around with people in the store he wasn't high as a kite or anything

He wasn't resisting arrest he was resisting being transported in a police car, claiming claustrophobia

Anyway I worked with a lot of trouble kids and they would always go crazy at times and start throwing Tantrums oh, we never killed them cause of it

I mean the guy was in handcuffs and he wasn't being violent towards police but just acting a little irrational

There was no reason to put him face down and kneel on the back of his neck,

I mean does anyone have any evidence of him being aggressive towards the police and trying to hurt them?

He cooperated with getting handcuffed, they could have just sat the guy down against the brick wall and called an ambulance

But the police officer decided to put them face down on the concrete and Neil on the back of his neck,

A handcuff incapacitated person

Seems pretty likely that he's guilty of the Lesser murder charge and very little doubt that he's at least guilty of manslaughter

I mean the guy was handcuffed why are you kneeling on his neck, face down on the pavement!

Proper body control means you prone them out. Someone in a sitting position is less controlled then someone flat out.

We can roll with that argument as well, but it still doesn’t favor you. Proportionally a certain group commits more crime then another, so basic statistics tell us they will have more deadly encounters.

Does proper body control require killing them?

trashcan wrote:

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

That paper sets out with a clear agenda but then creates a massive elephant in the room which it totally ignores because it destroys the agenda.

Cops clearly hate men much more than they hate any other identifiable group.

why is that?

Oh, its because men commit crimes at a much greater rate.

I'm a man, i can accept that as a statistic.

pupil3142 wrote:

trashcan wrote:

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

That paper sets out with a clear agenda but then creates a massive elephant in the room which it totally ignores because it destroys the agenda.

Cops clearly hate men much more than they hate any other identifiable group.

why is that?

Oh, its because men commit crimes at a much greater rate.

I'm a man, i can accept that as a statistic.

I was replying to the statement that white men get killed by police more than blacks. Obviously wrong but everybody was letting it pass