Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

The nation and guardian articles above prove you wrong, and history...

My point stands. You lose, Azov

You're a terrible liar. You've made clear that you absolutely hate America and everything it does and all it stands for. Which is the direct opposite of average Americans. Average Americans like it when our military-industrial complex helps Ukraine stomp all over the Russians.

You know how I can tell I landed a solid punch and now you can't get me out of your head? Because you've been copying my lines for weeks.

Damn, simping for a corrupt, defeated, third-rate nation like Russia must really suck.

Cutting the pentagon budget by a TON would help average americans in america in ways they actually need (rent / food / healthcare). You have no evidence otherwise.

How does sending billions to (insert fake war) help average americans in america?

answers thus far:

~ it helps shareholders of MIC companies

~ buying new weapons to replace donated ones saves average americans storage costs for the donated weapons (yes, someone actually said this)

~ shifting waste from one failed military venture to another will reduce the defense budget, as historically has never happened

Here's the results of the failed answers above:

Inside America's Zombieland: Philadelphia's Kensington neighborhood looks like a scene from the WALKING DEAD as grim photos show 'tranq' addicts shooting up in broad daylight on sidewalks

dailymail.co.uk

Philadelphia neighborhood looks like a scene from the Walking Dead

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMail

A veterinary tranquilizer, xylazine, is now found in 90 percent of all Philadelphia's heroin. The drug is ravaging the district of Kensington, turning the area into a 'no go' zone of stupefied addicts.

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Actually, nobody said this. More complete fiction by Cecci The Liar.

I will spell out the storage cost argument as it relates to the M2 Bradley in excruciating detail for you once you find where somebody said that "buying new weapons to replace donated ones saves average americans storage costs for the donated weapons" or you admit that you are a liar.

I think I found Cecci's 170 sq. foot apartment where he takes all the j-birds (second photo). He even decorated it with a pretty umbrella.

tokyotimes.org

Kamagasaki: Japan’s biggest slum

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Osaka's Kamagasaki district rarely makes the news, and when it did the other week, it was only because a film made to shed light on the area's poverty was pulled at the last minute by the Osaka Asian Film Festival -- the iron...

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You'd have a point if other countries were as bad to their own people AND to people in other countries as america.

How does billions sent to Ukraine help average americans in america?

american military waste spending example: California

Average amount of federal income taxes for Californians: $8,244yr.

53% goes to military = $4,369

Paying 80% less (what most countries pay on their military) of $4,369 saves you $3,495 a year

As a california resident, that would save you $291 every month if america paid what most countries pay on military.

Do people in (insert fake war location) really matter to you
so much that you lose $291 a month?

If someone offered you $291 cash every month, prove to us you would turn it down, Azov

cnbc.com

Here's how much Americans pay in taxes in every US state

https://www.facebook.com/CNBC

Depending on where you live in the United States, the amount you pay in taxes can vary wildly.

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Cecci bot is stuck in a loop again.

How does billions sent to Ukraine help average americans in america?

Your answer: by losing $291 a month with nothing to show for it except a long list of terrible leading achievements by america that crushes average americans, year-after-year

I'd take the $291 a month. Then convince average americans they should be doing the same to help themselves economically.

I think I cracked the top-notch Russian engineering that produced the CecciBot (tm).

10 Cecci says something stupid
20 Everybody tells Cecci exactly why his comment was stupid
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MIC for dummies (CNN/Fox/MSNBC sheeple)

Step 1) Create military products
Step 2) Create false enemies

Step 3) Create false narratives
Step 4) Create a "cool kids club" (NATO)

Step 5) Have taxpayers of the US and other countries of the "cool kids club" pay for the military products.

You are stuck at step 5,losing $200 - 300 every month for your entire working life, as it goes to the military budget via 53% of your federal tax returns.

Losing $200 - 300 a month and nothing to show for it. Wow, you showed us Azov!

From the "world economy is interconnected whether you like it or not desk":

China is experiencing serious natural gas shortages essentially because the Russian infrastructure capacity is maxed out well below demand and European countries have bought and/or jacked up the price on other global suppliers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/25/business/china-natural-gas-shortages.html

Absolutely untrue. I have several friends and running acquaintances living here in the US from other wealthy countries like UK, Sweden, Germany, and Australia. Guess you don't have many friends.

Average income:
Japan: $42,650
US: $73,930

Looks like Americans can easily afford the extra $300 per month and still have more money than somebody living in Japan.

Cost of living is also less in the US, as are taxes.

p.s. We also get the entertainment value of watching the Moska turn into a submarine, while Russian soldiers turn into spacemen when their tanks get blown up. Of course, they haven't quite figure out how to stick the landing yet (maybe that's because their legs are missing).

Cue more whataboutism, strawman arguments, and rambling about Nazis in 3... 2... 1...

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You'd have a point if other places were as bad as america.

About Japan v. america:

americans get less for their money. Costs kill your higher pay in the end:

The average after-tax salary is enough to cover living expenses for 2.1 months in Japan compared to 2 months in america.

Japan is better.

You lose WITHOUT even considering healthcare costs. The website below did not include healthcare in their analysis.

So.... let's see the truth WITH healthcare expenses added in:

Japan = $4,752 per year per person
US = $8,895 per year per person

So change 2 months in america (without healthcare) to 1.5 months with healthcare added.

You think 1.5 months of expenses covered in america is better than 2.1 months of expenses covered in Japan.

That's because you're stupid. Great math, Gomer Pyle.

livingcost.org

Japan vs US: Cost of Living, Salary & Prices comparison

The average cost of living in Japan ($1171) is 0% less expensive than in the United States ($2112). Japan ranked 43rd vs 6th for the United States in the list of the most expensive countries in the world. The average after-ta...

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Ukraine is the new Israel

The couple Putin lovers here must be really upset about the tanks. They've been posting on overdrive. I can practically hear them hyperventilating as I read all the nonsense.

Same sh*tty website you’ve quoted before that doesn’t agree with reality. Another Cecci fail. Looks like you and the Russian military have two things in common: frequent failures and love of Nazis.

You'd have a point if other developed nations were as bad as america.

Tip: america is the worst developed nation in the world in multiple categories.

Here's why:

pgpf.org

U.S. Defense Spending Compared to Other Countries

@pgpfoundation

The United States spends more on defense than the next 9 countries combined.

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This above post has been posted before. It seems like the poster is having righters block.