50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

A few thoughts inspired by recent posts....

1. I don’t really have any problem with Igy’s “cut a melon” post. If you have a partner that is post-menopausal, intercourse can be uncomfortable, even painful. It makes sense to find alternatives. Good for Igy for doing just that and not being shy about his intentions.

2. Speaking of not being shy, the Viagra question was a good one, but I think most men are reluctant to publicly share that they might have ED. The links posted were interesting and informative, but I’m not surprised that there hasn’t been much in the way of first hand accounts. Personally I have no experience with Viagra combined with running.

3. Regarding what I eat, I believe in a balanced diet. My diet includes things like red meat, white meat, seafood, veggies, fruits, nuts, chocolate, and beer. The key is not overdoing it (something I am not always completely successful at doing). I get my blood tested every 6 months and am taking a statin for high cholesterol (hereditary), but everything else is A+. I enjoy eating and my running helps keep my weight in check.

Thanks for the great discussions this week.

“I don’t really have any problem with Igy’s “cut a melon” post. If you have a partner that is post-menopausal, intercourse can be uncomfortable, even painful. It makes sense to find alternatives. Good for Igy for doing just that and not being shy about his intentions.”

I can’t imagine you are actually over 50 with your childish posts, but this one gave me a chuckle. So good for you, but probably not the reaction you intended.

I saw the light more than once .

At 59 I had let myself go bascially turned into the average american life style:

a1c 5.8

ldl 172

hdl 40

tri 99

bp 136/89

weight 180

Had a wake up call partly the above numbers but also a recurring invasive Squamous

Diet

Lower my carbs and cleaned em up fruits,veggies, some bread but not much , oatmeal some starchy roots but notmuch

lots of nuts mainly almonds and walnuts

calciferous veggies raw for the sulforaphane with pure olive oil and apple cider vinegar

fish eggs with yolks and some chicken not much and every now and then grass fed cow hopefully we start growing meat from cells

Exercise

3 hours a day of what ever mostly low intensity

and of course OMAD;)

3 years later

a1c 5.2

ldl 128

hdl 68!

tri 67!

bp 112/69 this varies a bit

weight 131

Supplements :

b complex, fish oil, D, AREDSII, glucosamine

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

“I don’t really have any problem with Igy’s “cut a melon” post. If you have a partner that is post-menopausal, intercourse can be uncomfortable, even painful. It makes sense to find alternatives. Good for Igy for doing just that and not being shy about his intentions.”

I can’t imagine you are actually over 50 with your childish posts, but this one gave me a chuckle. So good for you, but probably not the reaction you intended.

I was 67 when I started using this handle. And I’m not exactly sure what you found childish about my defense of you. Perhaps your “cut a melon” post was a joke? If so, you got me. Anyway I’m glad you enjoyed my post. All the best.

amkelley wrote:

DIet-wise, I basically do not eat domesticated mammal meat (beef, pork, lamb) because of the saturated fats, discomfort about killing mammals for food, and the very high impact on the earth's resources of raising mammals for food. .

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Wow!....you went from 180 to 131? Impressive! Those are also very good numbers. What is your height? Were you running at all at the 180 weight? I take it you weren't running at all at the 180 weight?

First 6 months was hiking 45 minutes a day going up and down a quarter mile hill weight went from 180 down to 160

Next 8 months started running. Started with a time trial 6:48 1600 8 months later 150lbs 5:51 full mile

ran at Hayward Classic here is a video I am the fat guy in 4 waddling but did kick to 3rd;)

https://haywardclassic.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=228&do=videos&video_id=208724

quickly dropped to 140 then stalled out on weight and running but my labs were much better

Dropped to low 130s a few months after starting OMAD one meal a day

my running stalled out doing 2 hard days a week so I switched to easy running about the same time I started OMAD

ran 5:52 mile and 19:42 off the easy stuff with a few lt runs and feel really good

the 5:52 at 132lbs

https://youtu.be/OrCOuKXO43A

funny thing is I never felt heavy and probably could have run at 180 hopefully I can just keep where I am.

this guy

https://www.dietdoctor.com/authors/dr-jason-fung-m-d

Really recommend Dr. Fung videos on calories diet hormones ect.

height 5' 7" missed that question

*Week 413*

Happy Mother's Day, 50+ers! I hope everyone gets to spend it appropriately. As is typical, our College has its graduation on this day and attendance is basically mandatory, which makes for a lot of unhappy professors or spouses thereof....but it is a great day for our students.

Hopefully, this broken record of muddling will finish this week. Got a couple more days of overloaded schedule, then I finally have a few weeks off. So nothing much worth reporting from me this week.

Will look forward to Racerdb's report--nice coup. Any other races to report?

All the Best!

PS-can we keep the inanity down and focus on 50+ Training and Racing?

lucKY: I genuinely believe that some time away from running is good for us. My personal opinion is many of us tend to become a bit unbalanced with regards to running, spending inordinate amounts of our time on what should be and accoutrement to our lives, not the central focus.

With all this discussion of weight and diet I had a “déjà vu all over again” moment. I’ve experimented with dropping weight and, actually, it’s documented in 2012 in this very thread. I got down to 135 (I’m 5’8”, but shrinking) but found my performances suffered and I got injured too easily. By mid Aug of 2012 I had serious problems with my feet. I wrongly assumed it’s good to be at my high school weight.

My lifetime PR’s of 15:42 in the 5K and 32:12 in the 10K were set at about 144. My 50+ PR’s in the 5K of 18:47 and 5:08 1500 were set at exactly 150.

Right now, I’m at 152 and I’m very slowly sinking down towards 150. I feel fantastic with no plans to try to get much lower.

Tue = 4 miles with 10 X 1 min on 2 min off

Thr = 4 miles with 3 @ 7:54 pace (uncomfortably warm, 85 degrees)

Sat = 5 on track with 3 X 1600 w 1 lap walk: 6:55, 6:54, 6:53, rainy and cool

Sun = 4 miles easy.

It was a good week of hard work. My legs have that type of soreness that I know will produce some results. That is a good feeling.

Happy Mothers Day!

healthy living is my biggest focus ideal running weight would be secondary in fact I am no faster or slower 10 lbs lighter;) but I feel better lighter. Injury wise really inflamation wise lighter for sure but weight is just a side effect of healthy living.

BDNF or why running is so darn good for ya!

https://youtu.be/eWO0QlRCVUE?t=805

My week well I actually did a track workout was going to run a 5000 at 10k pace but was not feeling it so did 6x800 with a 400 at 7:30 for recovery felt better as the workout progressed pretty even 3:08s with one 3:12 oops space out and finished with a 2:59 relaxed. Feel pretty good the day after. Other workout was cruise intervals 3xmile at 6:45 . the rest of the week ez getting in my 50 minutes a day of running.

HMD!

Happy Mother’s Day from Eagle, Idaho. This week I dropped Tuesday/Thursday morning walk/easy routine I followed last six months and replaced with spin biking. The plan is to increase intensity so trying to give myself a little more recovery through non-weight bearing activity. Hopefully add in some swimming if I have enough energy. Making progress a little here and a little there.

Monday: AM- 2 miles easy; 4 x 300m Repetition @ 1:18 / 100m walk; 400m easy; 4 x 500m Interval @ 2:25 / 200m walk; 400m easy; 4 x 300m Repetition @ 1:16 / 100m walk; mile easy/walk; PM: 3 mile walk

Tuesday: 20:00 spin bike; core; 3 sets, 10 reps weights

Wednesday: AM- 2 miles easy; 7 x 700m Critical Velocity @ 3:40, 3:40, 3:35, 3:37, 3:32, 3:29, 3:22 / 100m walk; mile easy/walk; PM: 3 miles easy/walk

Thursday: 30:00 spin; core; 3 sets, 10 reps weights

Friday: AM- 45:00 easy/walk; PM- 2 mile walk

Saturday: 2 miles easy; 4 x 100m Repetition @ 25 / 20m walk; 200m walk; 3,000m Tempo @ 16:29 = 5:47, 5:22, 5:20; 800m walk/easy; 4 x 200m Repetition @ 50, 46, 44, 43 / 200m walk; 800m easy/walk

Sunday: Off

Have a good week.

Igy

happy Mother's Day to all.

I'm usually going to graduation also, but this time it was last night. hard for me to stay awake the whole time; I fare better the years it is in the morning.

fun week of training including:

M 1:45 double including 4 X 4:00 (2:00 recover) at 5k pace (thru 1000 in 3:44 average)

Tu 1:00

W 50:00

th 2:00 with 15 mins. at marathon pace

F 30:00 + 30:00 x-t

Sa 40:00 + 1:00 x-t

Su 1:20 with 2 X 10:00 (2:00 recovery) at half-marathon pace

Looking forward to thursday thru Monday visiting our South Carolina daughter before [I hope] it gets too hot down there.

have a great week,

Dave

Igy and Charlie, nice sessions men...impressed!

Had my best week of 2019...hell, best week in more than a year.

30 miles...lots of weights, core.

Two good sessions...one a 5 mile progression run in the track finished in 7:30 ‘the hard way’ ( sprint straight, run , not jog turns)

The other session: 2 miles easy tempo...4 x 100 @ 25, 24,23,21 then 5 x 200 at 45, 45, 44, 42, 38.35 ...that last one my fastest since 2017

At any rate, just landed at LAX in the way to a conference in Vancouver BC...hope to jog in Stanley Park

Have a very fine week of training and racing

Your pal,

MF

Touch the Bannister and Landy statue for even greater finishing speed....

Following my good half-marathon last week, this week was a quiet one. 60 miles for the week in 6 days of running, with only one run at anything other than very easy pace. Last weekend was the first time in about three years that I’ve come back from a race feeling unreservedly happy about my performance, so I wasn’t concerned about feeling pretty washed out this past week.

Like lucKY2b, I hope that we can keep the inanity down and focus on training and racing. Or at least sound like grownups when straying from those topics.

Igy, roger on the spinning. I think biking in general, whether outdoors or on a trainer or spin bike, is a good way to get an aerobic workout without stressing the lower legs in the same way running does.

MikeF, nice training week!

I don’t have kids and neither my own mother nor my husband’s are still alive, but I’m a surrogate mom to my three (male) dogs, including a nine-week-old puppy that we brought home just yesterday. Happy Mother’s Day to all.

amkelley,

Thanks. I left swimming and spin biking at different times during treatment because of infection risk and prostatitis. I could tell first day the spin biking was getting my heart rate higher. I like to alternate sitting 3:00 at 100 RPM and standing 2:00 at 60 RPM.

Igy

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Touch the Bannister and Landy statue for even greater finishing speed....

I’ve been there...Empire Fields...scene of 1954 Commonwealth Games Bannister v Landy...as an aside, a copy of that meet program resides in a certain track nerd’s garage ;)

Saw your post on the program. Bumped into the statue on a run back in 2002. Did a double take and flashed immediately to the historical context.