Wrong link it seems
Either way, it's former Texas A&M LJ national champ, Will Williams, who will be coaching horizontals
Wrong link it seems
Either way, it's former Texas A&M LJ national champ, Will Williams, who will be coaching horizontals
Saint Xavier University (NAIA) HC
boodjet wrote:
outsider69 wrote:
So you think because a team recruits an additional 5 athletes a year that they are making the school enough money to benefit from that? That budget is SET each year and they aren't increasing it for track just because they recruited an extra warm body or two.
Stop trying to act smart here. This isnt "basic economics" it's a totally different independent system designed by each individual school.
What you're saying is like contributing to the Lance Armstrong foundation and wondering why your grandpa with cancer isn't getting better treatment.
Actually at smaller schools the AD will commonly increase budget or even add assistants based on the number of recruits brought on. I have been a part of one team where the assistant coach salary was directly supported by having a certain number of kids on the team. So I think you need to open your eyes to how the world works.
Ok so you ran D3.
So the throws coaches at UCF and SD St left, but they’re not hiring throws coaches? Interesting
Also open;
Weber St - Throws
SIUE - Throws
As a college coach at a smaller D2 school I can say that there are a lot of private D2 schools in the country that do use XC and Track to drive enrollment, as well as the other sports. I have a quota I am expected to meet each year and having the number of GA's I have, as well as the potential to have a full-time assistant is all based on numbers on the team! You do not see this as much with D2 State Schools. I also believe that a lot of Head XC and Track Coaching jobs are safe as long as you have a lot on the team. Theres not a lot of schools that have the allotted max amount of scholarships the NCAA allows. We have around 8 on both sides so only have like 1-2 on a full ride on the whole team and lots on 6-10k scholarships at a 29k a year school. These are facts from a college coach and not from someone that does not seem to know that they are talking about or who only has a DI perspective from the top 10% of DI schools.
BenDrankin wrote:
So the throws coaches at UCF and SD St left, but they’re not hiring throws coaches? Interesting
Think paid positions vs unpaid positions.
Those were paid positions. And they are hiring paid positions. So what’s your point?
supermemeoweme wrote:
As a college coach at a smaller D2 school I can say that there are a lot of private D2 schools in the country that do use XC and Track to drive enrollment, as well as the other sports. I have a quota I am expected to meet each year and having the number of GA's I have, as well as the potential to have a full-time assistant is all based on numbers on the team! You do not see this as much with D2 State Schools. I also believe that a lot of Head XC and Track Coaching jobs are safe as long as you have a lot on the team. Theres not a lot of schools that have the allotted max amount of scholarships the NCAA allows. We have around 8 on both sides so only have like 1-2 on a full ride on the whole team and lots on 6-10k scholarships at a 29k a year school. These are facts from a college coach and not from someone that does not seem to know that they are talking about or who only has a DI perspective from the top 10% of DI schools.
D3-Smaller D2 same thing. This is certainly not the case at any worthwhile D1.
Anyway, there has been slowly but surely some positions closing. Anyone have a full list of open jobs in D1?
The majority of college programs for track and field and cross country are now numbers based to boost tuition Net revenue. Very small percentage of the D1 are fully funded. This is not a D2 or a D3 issue it’s What track and field coaches deal with every day. Some of those colleges are extremely talented teams. Your lack of understanding of how colleges see sports outside of football and basketball shows a lack of experience.
supermemeoweme wrote:
As a college coach at a smaller D2 school I can say that there are a lot of private D2 schools in the country that do use XC and Track to drive enrollment, as well as the other sports. I have a quota I am expected to meet each year and having the number of GA's I have, as well as the potential to have a full-time assistant is all based on numbers on the team! You do not see this as much with D2 State Schools. I also believe that a lot of Head XC and Track Coaching jobs are safe as long as you have a lot on the team. Theres not a lot of schools that have the allotted max amount of scholarships the NCAA allows. We have around 8 on both sides so only have like 1-2 on a full ride on the whole team and lots on 6-10k scholarships at a 29k a year school. These are facts from a college coach and not from someone that does not seem to know that they are talking about or who only has a DI perspective from the top 10% of DI schools.
I have worked at two different D2 state schools, and we had the same thing. We had to maintain a certain roster size to justify our budget (salaries, GA/Assistant Positions, Travel Budget, Scholarships, etc). 90-100 athletes on the team typically, and approximately 8 scholarship equivalencies per gender. As the head coach, you can spend the scholarships however you want, but if you have 16 kids (8 guys, 8 girls) on a full, you need 84 walk-ons. For those that don't know, this is the enrollment model of sports, and outside of D1, it is how most schools justify sport sponsorship beyond intramural. The school makes more money by sponsoring a team, than they spend on that team.
So they are getting rid of paid coaches positions, to bring in unpaid coaches? Not sure what you’re getting at.
BenDrankin wrote:
So the throws coaches at UCF and SD St left, but they’re not hiring throws coaches? Interesting
The throws coach at SDSU was fired.
UCF has their person.
Fair enough, but that doesn’t address the point 15_50 made
Cross or T&F for Asheville? I see a HC listed for both.
Who got the job at UCF? Did they even open the position for hire?
What about SDSU?
Marina Muncan, Serbian Olympian and multiple All-American, goes from Rutgers to Claremont-Mudd-Scripps for XC and track distance, replacing retired John Goldhammer.
https://cmsathletics.org/sports/wxc/2020-21/releases/20200810is7mfq
siwho wrote:
Those were paid positions. And they are hiring paid positions. So what’s your point?
Ummm... maybe they aren't paid positions now. you do realize that there are only 3 paid positions per track team, right?
let me clarify... perhaps one of the jobs is now unpaid and another is paid?
Perhaps the one that is being advertised as open is now the paid position.
Only 3 paid positions per team? I’ve been coaching since 2000, at the very least it’s 3. I’ve been on some teams with 5, but I know some teams have more than 5.