Henry Rono training for masters mile record. PART II

Karl Kauffman wrote:

That has been explained. Rono made a statement that was wrong(and made him LOOK like a fraud), I called him on it, he acknowleged the mistake, and that was that. Honestly, I had not looked at this thread until the day before the Cincinnati race, so had no idea the history of the thread, and when FIRST post I saw was him misidentify the race director I assumed it was someone pretending to be him. After all, I would think he knew the difference between the fellow he was staying with and the race director.

This is a classic case of someone coming to the party late, making a fool out of himself, then claiming it's the host's fault.

Henry NEVER looked like a fraud to anyone EXCEPT you. Everyone EXCEPT for you knew that Henry Rono is a registered name here. When did YOU apologize for defaming Henry?

You're still a jerk. Go away.

White Knight wrote:

Henry NEVER looked like a fraud to anyone EXCEPT you. Everyone EXCEPT for you knew that Henry Rono is a registered name here. When did YOU apologize for defaming Henry?

You're still a jerk. Go away.

Obfuscate all you want.

The point remains the same. Considering Rono's inability to drop appreciable weight while he says he's been running 2 hours a day, and cross-training, the last month, calls into question how serious he is in this pursuit. He knows he's carrying at least 30 pounds too much, knows how to lose it. The question is is he serious enough about it to be hungry and suffer until he starts dropping that weight?

If he's not under 150 pounds in the next 2 or 3 months, and running under 4:40 for the mile by the summer, we'll know the answer, won't we? Because one won't happen without the other.

If Rono ran a world record at 150 lbs, I do not think that he will have to be 150 to run a four minute and forty second mile!

Let's not discourage the same guy that has, in some way, encouraged us all.

Yes, he has not been too serious about losing weight the past couple of months; but NO, he hasn't been fraudulent or deceiving about it either. If he was, wouldn't he be lying on this forum and say that his weight is 170, then 160, then 155, since none of us can see him? So, while the progress he has been making of late is rather poor, at least he has been honest about reporting his weight.....unless you think he's really 185 or something?

I think we will all be happy by the end of February, when Henry is down into the low 160 range by then.

Go Rono Go!

As I've stated before in this thread, which I've followed since Part 1 started and through all the disappearing posts, etc., Henry's story motivates me. I'm not lo goking to nitpick his progress--just to enjoy following it as he lives his dream. Please keep including us in your journey through your posts here, Henry.

As for the weight loss part, I'm a couple of years younger than Henry and could quite easily gain weight while doing two hours per day of mainly easy-paced training (if I didn't get injured first--I don't have Henry's durability). Some of us are quite capable of eating more than we should. Most are quite capable of using simple arithmetic to determine that two hours per day of training only yields a weight loss if it creates a caloric deficit.

I think Henry likely knows his own body better than any of us ever will, and when he's ready to drop to 150 or 140 or whatever weight he decides he needs to carry to run his goal time, he will do it.

Keep the faith Henry, and keep taking us with you in you journey. Hopefully the negative posters will just be silent and watch what happens. Time will eventually tell us all we need to know.

paulthomas wrote:

If Rono ran a world record at 150 lbs, I do not think that he will have to be 150 to run a four minute and forty second mile!

Let's not discourage the same guy that has, in some way, encouraged us all.

Do I have to have 150lbs to run 4:40 minutes for a mile? I think Paul is saying something to all of us.

Henry

To at least Rono has been honest,

I have been honest Did I? When I stand on a scale I read 177lbs or 179 or 180 and I do report that to you don't I?

Henry

This is just a gentle reminder to the guy who calls himself "oldman". I am at least 15 years older than Henry and I am not old. My obervation is that runners, although they slow down, they do not become old until at least their late 70s or early 80s. If we think of ourselves as old, we will be old much sooner. Enjoy your running/jogging/walking while you can. I find it great fun!

To oldman,

Hopefully the negative posters will just be silent and watch what happens. Time will eventually tell us all we need to know.

Stay on board and enjoy the journey, the ship is in the middle Pacific Ocean. I tell you what? the ship will not crush in the middle of the Ocean,we will be in a promise land.Thank God I have brought down, my weight to 170lbs.

I do like my journey,I don't panic and I have it by the horns.

Henry

Hurrah! Henry is not old!

Henry ,

I still weigh over 200.

I can run for two hours( not fast)

" Weighs" come off much slower at my age.

Thanks for the reminder, Orville. Runners like you and Mr. Whitlock who enjoy the sport at 20+ years my age do keep me feeling young, as does Henry--who still trains like a strong young man. I've been using the oldman name here for several years, originally when responding to some young wise guys--back when I was only in my late 40s--so I don't mean anything negative by it. Although I have never run as well as you once did, I hope to be fortunate enough to still enjoy running when I reach your age.

oldman wrote:

I've been using the oldman name here for several years, originally when responding to some young wise guys--back when I was only in my late 40s--so I don't mean anything negative by it.

I used the name "oldguy" here for years, but gave it up because of the negative associations. I was in my forties, and still able to break 2:30 in a marathon, but many (presumably younger and generally slower) posters assumed that I was an out-of-shape, embittered old geezer. For me, it was quite a lesson to experience, firsthand, some of the social biases against older people. (Of course, Orville Atkins isn't treated that way here, but that's because he's a lot nicer to people than I am.)

Anyway . . .

I'm cheering for you, Henry!

I always enjoyed your posts and wondered where you'd gone. Who are you now?

I just sent you an email message. : )

Used to be "oldguy" wrote:

I just sent you an email message. : )

My email:ronorun_henry@msn.com

We can discuss more about being old and getting shape at the slow rate of losing weights and training.How is that sound to you? I notice people are getting uptight and can't sit still in the movie theater.

It is too bad. You up to watch no matter how long it takes for the movie to finish. You have to wait,I say to these guys who are inpatient to sit and watch.It is a marathon movie watch.

Henry

Henry Rono wrote:

I notice people are getting uptight and can't sit still in the movie theater.

It is too bad. You up to watch no matter how long it takes for the movie to finish. You have to wait,I say to these guys who are inpatient to sit and watch.It is a marathon movie watch.

Very well said, Henry!

Henry: I had health problems (not weight, but diet problems) at age 30, and it took years to struggle past them. I know what it means to say, "it is a marathon". I am now 50 and in my best health and fitness. Stay the course through tommorrow and through the years to come. You will not be sorry when each day is a special thing, when your feet are quick and the load is light.

Everyone else: Whether or not you believe in Henry's future success in achieving records, this thread is a special thing in which the running community is sharing, and it is not just because of Henry's running talent. He is a very special human being, and his humanity touches all of us. If any audience should know to have patience, it is us, for we are distance runners. So let us wait and watch and enjoy.

Mountain Mazungo wrote:

this thread is a special thing in which the running community is sharing, and it is not just because of Henry's running talent. He is a very special human being, and his humanity touches all of us.

You're exactly right.