He has not run a program since he was coaching in the NJCAA. Jenkins is running the most successful program in the country outside the P5.
USF is having one pretty good year on the men's side, are mediocre on the women side, and haven't even placed in the top 30 teams at an NCAA championship yet. They scored one point at the NCAA indoor meet. USF have a good group of men that won two mid major conference titles. Why would FSU be all over Jenkins as a candidate based on some USTFCCCA rankings and two mid major conference titles. FSU thinks much bigger than that. They'll go after some big fish and have a lot of money to offer a current head coach from a P4. If they can't lure the right one away, Kane could be considered too.
USF is having one pretty good year on the men's side, are mediocre on the women side, and haven't even placed in the top 30 teams at an NCAA championship yet. They scored one point at the NCAA indoor meet. USF have a good group of men that won two mid major conference titles. Why would FSU be all over Jenkins as a candidate based on some USTFCCCA rankings and two mid major conference titles. FSU thinks much bigger than that. They'll go after some big fish and have a lot of money to offer a current head coach from a P4. If they can't lure the right one away, Kane could be considered too.
True - USF has not made a splash nationally, but context matters. USF is doing what they can with what they have. Patterns of success are important to consider in the hiring process.
I'm not suggesting that Jenkins or someone with similar professional successes is THE answer for FSU, but I do believe the patterns of success he (and others like him) have shown are worth considering.
Looking for some names for a coach who overachieves in a difficult situation- distance- who is getting it done in spite of the challenges before them- need names for a hire list
Is this so you can continue to pay someone a low salary and underfund a program but expect them to win without the resources that the winning programs have? Asking for a friend?
Good point- but everyone has to start somewhere. Sounds like a great opportunity for a younger coach that wants to prove themselves.
The reality is we are all hopefully in this because we love the sport and want to make a difference in people’s lives, and we can do that in any program and any division. Plus, it is much easier to go from succeeding with less to having more than vise versa.
Taking on a challenging situation and making the best of it could be really valuable experience for a time. Resourcefulness and creative problem solving are underrated in our profession.
The reality is we are all hopefully in this because we love the sport and want to make a difference in people’s lives, and we can do that in any program and any division. Plus, it is much easier to go from succeeding with less to having more than vise versa.
Taking on a challenging situation and making the best of it could be really valuable experience for a time. Resourcefulness and creative problem solving are underrated in our profession.
I agree these resourcefulness and “success without resources” achievements should be in the spotlight.
Conversely I’d like to tag coaches who have the negative trend of getting the top HS recruits but those bluechips don’t improve or are plagued with injuries that cause them to drop off the roster.
The reality is we are all hopefully in this because we love the sport and want to make a difference in people’s lives, and we can do that in any program and any division. Plus, it is much easier to go from succeeding with less to having more than vise versa.
Taking on a challenging situation and making the best of it could be really valuable experience for a time. Resourcefulness and creative problem solving are underrated in our profession.
I agree these resourcefulness and “success without resources” achievements should be in the spotlight.
Conversely I’d like to tag coaches who have the negative trend of getting the top HS recruits but those bluechips don’t improve or are plagued with injuries that cause them to drop off the roster.
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He has not run a program since he was coaching in the NJCAA. Jenkins is running the most successful program in the country outside the P5.
USF is having one pretty good year on the men's side, are mediocre on the women side, and haven't even placed in the top 30 teams at an NCAA championship yet. They scored one point at the NCAA indoor meet. USF have a good group of men that won two mid major conference titles. Why would FSU be all over Jenkins as a candidate based on some USTFCCCA rankings and two mid major conference titles. FSU thinks much bigger than that. They'll go after some big fish and have a lot of money to offer a current head coach from a P4. If they can't lure the right one away, Kane could be considered too.
Uh....South Florida was in the top 25. They won the men's HJ in Austin last year.
Jenkins has won big in every conference he has coached and has numerous All-Americans. If leading a P4 program, he would no doubt be successful.
Not at all- pay is very solid- but there are definitely non-negotiables- things that can't change- ie location, facilities etc. You sound like a big baby.
So what's the school, location, pay..and maybe your contact info ? I'm sure you'll get plenty of names once you give your some information. I've got an a quality list of names to send your way
He was on staff for many years, including some of their most successful. He has experience running his own ship at PSU(Cross Country Head), and has now been at UO for a few years at a top level program. He knows the recruiting ground at that University, in-state and out. He has coached some top level athletes(was CQ's personal coach). Of course he would need to surround himself with a great staff to get FSU back to the top, but it has been done before. What say you?
I don’t see Florida State going distance for their next director. This is one of the premier track and field schools in the country. Very, very few schools can balance being relevant in XC and competing for NCAA titles on the track with 12.6. Arkansas and previously Oregon and Florida State have been able to but this is getting tougher and tougher with the level of talent in the NCAA. Washington didn’t even make XC nationals this year.
I’m going after the following if I’m Florida State:
He was on staff for many years, including some of their most successful. He has experience running his own ship at PSU(Cross Country Head), and has now been at UO for a few years at a top level program. He knows the recruiting ground at that University, in-state and out. He has coached some top level athletes(was CQ's personal coach). Of course he would need to surround himself with a great staff to get FSU back to the top, but it has been done before. What say you?
I don’t see Florida State going distance for their next director. This is one of the premier track and field schools in the country. Very, very few schools can balance being relevant in XC and competing for NCAA titles on the track with 12.6. Arkansas and previously Oregon and Florida State have been able to but this is getting tougher and tougher with the level of talent in the NCAA. Washington didn’t even make XC nationals this year.
I’m going after the following if I’m Florida State:
Strong ties to the university, decades of success as an event coach, ten years as an associate head coach in the SEC. Family lives in Tallahassee so it's his end-game.
Most importantly though, strong international recruiting ties, and ability to turn a program around on a dime.
Look at what he has done with Auburn mens sprinters in the last two years.
Plus having him on staff is correlated with success. Eg. Florida States best years were with him there, Georgia wins a national title after he arrives, Tennessee goes from an afterthought to two third place finishes in NCAA.
Georgia didn’t win the ncaa title because of Ken. The had won before his. Sprinter stepped on the track. They won with field events. You will get the day job Ken, lol but not by promoting yourself on letsrun:)
I don’t see Florida State going distance for their next director. This is one of the premier track and field schools in the country. Very, very few schools can balance being relevant in XC and competing for NCAA titles on the track with 12.6. Arkansas and previously Oregon and Florida State have been able to but this is getting tougher and tougher with the level of talent in the NCAA. Washington didn’t even make XC nationals this year.
I’m going after the following if I’m Florida State:
Ken Harnden, Robert Johnson, Jenkins, Carl Lewis
Yes, a premier Track and Field program that won 2 Outdoor titles UNDER A DISTANCE DIRECTOR. Yes, I know they were stripped of one for cheating, and whose athlete(s) were those that were involved in that scandal? The bottom line is that those teams were some of the most balanced teams in the last 20 years, with points coming from everywhere, and it was a DISTANCE COACH who figured out how to do it. Maybe Johnson of the above listed would go that route, if it was convenient.