My whole point if you READ the thread it was a response to someone saying the program was a dud sprint program before she got there. My point in showing the stats was to show that the program was NOT a dud sprint program so lets not make it out to be something it isnt. Bottomline is it was worse when she left than it was when she got there. Maynot
Even be her fault but lets not act like she did something she didnt do.
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Arm chair quarterbacks should leave the hiring to the university/athletic dept/head coach. The fact that so many are critical of so many hires is evidence that so many don't understand the process.
Each school knows exactly what they are looking for. And it isn't always the most accomplished or experienced resume. sometimes they want someone they can teach and mold in a specific way. Sometimes they want someone to better relate to the student-athletes. Sometimes they want someone that will be grateful for an entry level salary. Sometimes they want someone who will be glad to do "all the little things" that many coaches think are "beneath them" because they are so experienced and accomplished. Sometimes they want someone that can bring a very specific thing to the recruiting process.
How about just being a little nicer to one another in your own profession?
How did Oklahoma’s distance hire work out for them?
Point taken, understandable if that was the case. My whole point is the majority of people dictating how coaches move up because they are constantly speaking at conventions etc are power five coaches but they are the main ones making these hires. But its their program so i wish them the best.
The problem is it’s not all the people that are making these comments are in the profession . There’s a lot of wannabes.
This thread should be called the "2020 Volunteer Coaching Positions Discussion" cause that's what they are all going to be once football gets cancelled.
Why are you on here? Most track and field programs bring in far more money than they spend. If you had any understanding of how academia and athletics work you wouldn’t make such stupid comments.
rayi123 wrote:
Why are you on here? Most track and field programs bring in far more money than they spend. If you had any understanding of how academia and athletics work you wouldn’t make such stupid comments.
This is misleading. Sure, paying tuition brings in money for the school, however if you are on a full ride you are bringing no money to the school. Also those funds that come from paying tuition and housing don't go to athletics typically. At least they don't hit athletics directly.
The majority of track athletes are on minimal scholarships. The money that comes in for tuition and fees is all money to the university. If it’s so misleading why are so many colleges using track and field to boost enrollment? I really have to question if some of you have ever coached collegiately?
They haven’t which why they whine on here about who gets hired. Not many schools have their entire teams on full scholarships. Head Coaches hire who c they can trust and people who can recruit.
College coaching wrote:
They haven’t which why they whine on here about who gets hired. Not many schools have their entire teams on full scholarships. Head Coaches hire who c they can trust and people who can recruit.
U sound dumb. Head coaches hire who they are comfortable with or who they THINK will
Be a good recruiter. In this instance w jeter id like to have seen her bring in replacements . 2 years of coaching isnt long enough to know if someone can recruit or not. Also i dont think administration needed a female minority because the last coach in that position was a male minoritu so
Before assuming we dont know how the hiring practice work do some research or at least know what i are saying
Is fact. Just because u suggest that might of
Been what happened doesnt mean its what happened.
Erik Cyclone wrote:
How did Oklahoma’s distance hire work out for them?[/quote]
Not very well they are not going to keep her around much longer from what I’ve heard.
rayi123 wrote:
The majority of track athletes are on minimal scholarships. The money that comes in for tuition and fees is all money to the university. If it’s so misleading why are so many colleges using track and field to boost enrollment? I really have to question if some of you have ever coached collegiately?
Lol I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. You are implying that these athletes are bringing money to the university. Sure, but that's not going to the athletic department directly and keeping programs afloat. I agree, it's amazing how little some of you know how this whole thing works.
You don’t understand basic economics. Money to the college is more money for athletics. Where do you think athletics gets its budget from?
rayi123 wrote:
You don’t understand basic economics. Money to the college is more money for athletics. Where do you think athletics gets its budget from?
So you think because a team recruits an additional 5 athletes a year that they are making the school enough money to benefit from that? That budget is SET each year and they aren't increasing it for track just because they recruited an extra warm body or two.
Stop trying to act smart here. This isnt "basic economics" it's a totally different independent system designed by each individual school.
What you're saying is like contributing to the Lance Armstrong foundation and wondering why your grandpa with cancer isn't getting better treatment.
outsider69 wrote:
rayi123 wrote:
You don’t understand basic economics. Money to the college is more money for athletics. Where do you think athletics gets its budget from?
So you think because a team recruits an additional 5 athletes a year that they are making the school enough money to benefit from that? That budget is SET each year and they aren't increasing it for track just because they recruited an extra warm body or two.
Stop trying to act smart here. This isnt "basic economics" it's a totally different independent system designed by each individual school.
What you're saying is like contributing to the Lance Armstrong foundation and wondering why your grandpa with cancer isn't getting better treatment.
Actually at smaller schools the AD will commonly increase budget or even add assistants based on the number of recruits brought on. I have been a part of one team where the assistant coach salary was directly supported by having a certain number of kids on the team. So I think you need to open your eyes to how the world works.
Ok, enough of that. Anybody got a list of available jobs? I'll start
UCF - Throws
Central Michigan - Throws
San Diego St - Throws
UNC-Asheville - Head Coach
UCF SDSU are not hiring throws positions. They are hiring sprints at UCF and jumps at sdsu.
siwho wrote:
UCF SDSU are not hiring throws positions. They are hiring sprints at UCF and jumps at sdsu.
UCF will be hiring jumps. HC is the sprints/hurdle coach.
D2 full-time sprints/jumps/hurdles position in North Carolina