Guelph Implodes

Tunt wrote:

Fred Urie - you seem more off-kilter than normal today.

Gandhi: " I'm human; I know only relative truth, and that changes from day to day. My commitment must be to truth, and not to consistency. ' That is, I have to honor my commitment to the truth, even it means reversing myself to do it.”

"If you believe it, it's not a lie", George Costanza. Stick with sneaking around the bushes in Guelph.

matt_london_413 wrote:

scoooch wrote:

so according to Boyd logic Queens needs to vacate titles? we need Boyd's opinion since he is always right and those who disagree with him are not worthy of walking this earth

Can anyone give me cliff notes for this entire thread?

I just need cliff notes for what's going on in this thread and what its all about.

Not to sound rude or anything but I don't have time to read through 63 pages of 10 to 11 paragraph replies on each reply for a topic I have never heard of before.

Thanks to anyone that can give me cliffs.

Guelph University covered up the sex crimes of their track coach for 13 years. A coach from another university criticized those involved with this on the internet. This coach is now fired because there’s no freedom of speech in Canada.

fred wrote:

Tunt wrote:

Fred Urie - you seem more off-kilter than normal today.

Gandhi: " I'm human; I know only relative truth, and that changes from day to day. My commitment must be to truth, and not to consistency. ' That is, I have to honor my commitment to the truth, even it means reversing myself to do it.”

Cliff note version

Steve feels Guelph should be stripped of any titles after 2006 as this is when DST should have been fired and Guelph had an unfair recruitment advantage under DST success in the following years that would not have had if he would have been fired.

Instead of taking this complaint to Usport he decided to take his complaint to a Guelph Alumni Facebook page.

When the alumni explained that she was a victim of DST culture that caused her to leave the U of G and the title she earned by her own athletic ability was a silver lining to what she had endured, Steve still proceeded to kick when she was down.

When other alumni came to her defense and told Steve this was not the time or place to discuss this. It turned into a peeing match with both sides making some very inappropriate comments.

Later on in the posts one of Steve's assistant coaches as well as a post from another university coach tell Steve his comments have gotten out of line and are in the wrong place. that he should apologize and step back.

Steve ignores the advice from his friends and continues on the offensive.

Queens obviously did not like what they read and took action.

matt_london_413 wrote:

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Can anyone give me cliff notes for this entire thread?

He or she asked for Cliffs notes of entire thread. There were rumors that something was up at Guelph - a Canadian university as the highly successful coach Dave Scott Thomas (DST) was on leave.

After much speculation, Canada's largest paper published a story written by Michael Doyle with the details. It says that DST had a sexual relationship with an athlete of his Megan Brown when she was a teenager. Megan's mother was totally healthy and then dropped dead 17 days after being bitten by a West Nile mosquito. Megan found solace in running and was incredible - like Olympic quality. She joined Guelph.

Emails show they had an inappropriate coach-athelte relationship. He'd take her on long car rides. She says the relationship turned sexual and that DST even checked her out of a mental psych ward to have sex with her.

A rival Canadian coach rips Guelph's handling of this. This was from like 15+ years ago. He is fired for his rant.

Read this article:

Just crazy that Guelph let this go on.

Every single administrator at Guelph University whom knew about this should be fired and brought up on criminal charges.

Whether or not Queen's was right to fire Boyd, what you say below is a dramatic over-simplification and mis-characterization of even the purported circumstances of his firing, let alone what may really be behind the action.

rojo wrote:

A rival Canadian coach rips Guelph's handling of this. This was from like 15+ years ago. He is fired for his rant.

Why are you guys catering to that clown, mat t london?

If he has time to write lengthy BS posts on here and make long videos of himself prancing around for 10 minutes before running a slow 400 then he has time to read this thread.

"He or she asked for Cliffs notes of entire thread"

My mistake rojo, I thought matt_london_413 wanted the cliff notes on why Boyd was fired as they quoted the comments about Boyd before they asked.

physics defiant wrote:

Why are you guys catering to that clown, mat t london?

If he has time to write lengthy BS posts on here and make long videos of himself prancing around for 10 minutes before running a slow 400 then he has time to read this thread.

Is he this guy?

Er... wrote:... what you say below is a dramatic over-simplification and mis-characterization of even the purported circumstances of his firing, let alone what may really be behind the action. ...

New here? This was rojo posting after all... :-)

Democracy Now wrote:

Just crazy that Guelph let this go on.

Every single administrator at Guelph University whom knew about this should be fired and brought up on criminal charges.

Amazing that the same people who want due process for SB today...believe that DST should have been guilty by accusation back then.....

Live by cancel culture....die by cancel culture.

Man Overboard wrote:

Democracy Now wrote:

Just crazy that Guelph let this go on.

Every single administrator at Guelph University whom knew about this should be fired and brought up on criminal charges.

Amazing that the same people who want due process for SB today...believe that DST should have been guilty by accusation back then.....

I'm struggling to figure out the similarities between DST being accused of sexual assault and SB running his mouth off on a Facebook thread are comparable? Can you let me know please?

Tunt wrote:

I'm struggling to figure out the similarities between DST being accused of sexual assault and SB running his mouth off on a Facebook thread are comparable? Can you let me know please?

I believe in the (quaint?) notion of Due Process.

I disagree with the notion that DST should have been removed on the basis of a 'he said/she said' in the absence of hard independent corroborating evidence.

I also believe that SB should not have been removed for expressing his personal opinion.

Both were/are entitled to plead their cases before an independent tribunal, imo.

Man Overboard wrote:

Tunt wrote:

I'm struggling to figure out the similarities between DST being accused of sexual assault and SB running his mouth off on a Facebook thread are comparable? Can you let me know please?

I believe in the (quaint?) notion of Due Process.

I disagree with the notion that DST should have been removed on the basis of a 'he said/she said' in the absence of hard independent corroborating evidence.

I also believe that SB should not have been removed for expressing his personal opinion.

Both were/are entitled to plead their cases before an independent tribunal, imo.

What sort of hard independent evidence in the DST case are you looking for? It's not like he was sexually assaulting her in-front of other people.

It was against university policy for a coach to have a relationship with an athlete, at the very least, and letters and emails between MB and DST would’ve been proof.

Tunt wrote:

Man Overboard wrote:

Amazing that the same people who want due process for SB today...believe that DST should have been guilty by accusation back then.....

In a world of obsequious sycophants people who run their mouths

I'm struggling to figure out the similarities between DST being accused of sexual assault and SB running his mouth off on a Facebook thread are comparable? Can you let me know please?

In a world of obsequious sycophants people who run their mouths get punished. In Russia you get murdered. The weasels and backstabbers running the show were looking for a way to get rid of him.