Another 130-plus deaths in Florida reported today. One state is going to prop up what should be falling nationwide death totals for the next couple weeks. Bad leadership and deadly stubbornness. It’s unfortunate.
Another 130-plus deaths in Florida reported today. One state is going to prop up what should be falling nationwide death totals for the next couple weeks. Bad leadership and deadly stubbornness. It’s unfortunate.
Universal Masking to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Transmission—The Time Is Now
John T. Brooks, MD1; Jay C. Butler, MD; Robert R. Redfield, MD
JAMA. Published online July 14, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.13107
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768532
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Another 130-plus deaths in Florida reported today. One state is going to prop up what should be falling nationwide death totals for the next couple weeks. Bad leadership and deadly stubbornness. It’s unfortunate.
It's more than one state. Florida, Texas, and California are about half the national total, and Arizona is overachieving, but there are plenty of states headed in the wrong direction.
[quote]THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Georgia is probably too early to tell.
Georgia opened "too soon" months ago.
The purveyors of the narrative are messing up. Have to start publishing bigger death numbers in Georgia soon. I told them this weeks ago
agip wrote:
L'Oncle wrote:
Yet not happening in Georgia
I'm not not seeing a rise in deaths in GA correct.
Although GA has been really slimy on data integrity so who knows with that state.
It seems to me this entire process has been replete with slimy integrity. 24/7 fear mongering for months. It seems naive to think this is being done for public safety
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Another 130-plus deaths in Florida reported today. One state is going to prop up what should be falling nationwide death totals for the next couple weeks. Bad leadership and deadly stubbornness. It’s unfortunate.
What would good leadership have suggested?
Nuname wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Georgia is probably too early to tell.
Georgia opened "too soon" months ago.
The purveyors of the narrative are messing up. Have to start publishing bigger death numbers in Georgia soon. I told them this weeks ago
78 deaths reported today.
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So does this mean the fatality rate is really just 1/10th previously reported by the media?
68% of today's reported deaths were for ages 70+
36% of today's reported deaths were for ages 80+
95% of today's reported deaths were for ages 50+
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MyCorona wrote:
What would good leadership have suggested?
Wear a mask. Indoor bars and restaurants are closed. Big indoor gatherings are prohibited. Socialize indoors with members of your household only.
TheseKidsUnderstand wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cdc-antibody-tests-show-virus-163310920.htmlSo does this mean the fatality rate is really just 1/10th previously reported by the media?
The media is reporting the numbers that are officially provided by the government. So it is the government that is reporting the fatality rate.
The answer to your question is a little more complex. We've done antibody testing to determine unreported past cases, but as far as I've heard there has not been testing to determine unreported past deaths. So if we want to multiply the number of cases by 10, we have to multiply the number of deaths by some unknown factor as well. Otherwise the comparison is not valid.
brazen2 wrote:
Nuname wrote:
Georgia opened "too soon" months ago.
The purveyors of the narrative are messing up. Have to start publishing bigger death numbers in Georgia soon. I told them this weeks ago
78 deaths reported today.
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Hopefully, not a sign they've been suppressing deaths or anything like that. Reporting 3 and 8 on back-to-back days and then dumping 78 is bad even given how weekend reporting is. It was not that extreme last week. FWIW that puts GA at 200 over the last 7 days. Previous 7 days before that were 155.
I agree and also wear a mask and keep social distancing during outdoor riots.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cdc-antibody-tests-show-virus-163310920.html
Does this mean the actual fatality rate previously reported just got cut by a factor of 10?
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
MyCorona wrote:
What would good leadership have suggested?
Wear a mask. Indoor bars and restaurants are closed. Big indoor gatherings are prohibited. Socialize indoors with members of your household only.
Truly good leadership would have been a bit stricter than that. They would have done what Asia and most of Europe did. That is, keep people at home until the virus is under control. Then open up slowly.
We were on the right path until Georgia opened with blatant disregard for CDC guidelines. Then other states started to do the same and it became obvious that the president was not going to work with congress to shore things up economically to support the shutdown.
So now we will have to start all over again if we want to avoid more human tragedy and economic desolation.
And furthermore, if we don't have a successful vaccine program we can expect a huge number of excess deaths in a year or so. Remember, we are only 4 months into this. Think of how many will die in another 16 months if we can't get this under control.
If someone you care about is over 65 or has a medical condition then you should think hard about supporting a reset. Without it, there is a good chance they won't survive past 2021.
The only thing we know that really works is a two to three month shutdown. If you think it's not worth that then you are a bad person.
California did a three month shutdown. How did that work?
Fat hurts wrote:
Truly good leadership would have been a bit stricter than that. They would have done what Asia and most of Europe did. That is, keep people at home until the virus is under control. Then open up slowly. .
Maybe so. I don't think the USA was ever going to have the trajectory of Denmark say. That being said, could we have had a situation where deaths were stable around 2-300 a week from June until the vaccine? Yes, I think so, but our leadership and individual decisions doomed us.
Your kidding right? More deaths have been attributed to Covid, including motorcycle accidents, than the other way around. So the truth finally comes out. The majority of early deaths were due to mismanagement of nursing homes. Then the high rates of death of hospitalized Covid patients in the early days was due to a complete lack of understanding of how to treat the disease. Now they have better methods of treatment.
If you combine those facts with a 10x increase in actual positive cases, the fatality rate will be relatively low. The media reported data from all around the world not just the CDC. The CDC also overestimated fatality rates which every sensible person knew was not correct due to the limited testing. Many medical experts reported that the true infection rate was likely to be between 8-10x the current positive test results just a month or two ago.
41% of today's reported deaths were from nursing homes
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brazen2 wrote:
Nuname wrote:
Georgia opened "too soon" months ago.
The purveyors of the narrative are messing up. Have to start publishing bigger death numbers in Georgia soon. I told them this weeks ago
78 deaths reported today.
Really?
All I can find at worldometers is 5 on Sunday and 3 on Monday
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Why repeat these four things over and over again?
Why not just say do what the masters say and do not question it?