Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1285265327459373057?s=20
Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1285265327459373057?s=20
That graph is May 14. Are you just lying on purpose or did you really not realize you are mistaken?
Alex Berenson is a hack snake-oil salesman trying to make a name for himself. His Twitter is an absolutely unreliable source for information on this.
Wearing a mask is the best way to eliminate this virus. It costs very little to purchase one and costs you nothing in terms of your "liberty." People who oppose masks because of government intervention need to follow through on their supposedly conservative principles and therefore take personal responsibility to care for their own friends and family by putting on a mask. This isn't about government telling you what to do; this is about you making an intelligent choice based on reality, not based on right-wing propaganda.
Only sheep and morans will listen to voices like Trump's and Berenson's and ignore the most basic common-sense step that will bring our country back to normal: WEAR A MASK when around other people.
Fat hurts wrote:
GA Gal wrote:
Your first sentence has no relevance. If a person tests positive what should they do?
Your second sentence is false. Pre-symptomatic too.
Why test? Now I could go around my normal business like Fat Hurt does and never get tested, but that would be irresponsible. Worse yet. I could go around telling everyone they need to stay home while I go out, don’t wear a mask and not social distance like Fat Hurt. I’m a better person than that and I raised my kids better than that too.
It’s obvious that you are just Fat Hurt with another username. So you’re not fooling anybody.
For the record, I have never posted under another name since I registered "Fat Hurts" a few years ago.
I stay home except to exercise or get food. The rest of my family does the same. I've said that from the beginning of this thread and it hasn't changed. But when I must go out to get food I wear a mask. That's the responsible thing to do.
It is irresponsible to live your normal life and think that you are doing your part just because you wear a mask and get tested. These are extraordinary times and we need to make certain sacrifices. Every expert agrees that the best way to stop the spread of the virus is to stay away from other people. I heard Dr. Fauci say it again today.
Now I do understand that you have tough decisions. Kids want to go to camp, but some camps have become super-spreaders. They to need to go school, but there are risks with that as well. Being a parent is hard.
BUSTED!
and a hypocrite. If you talk the talk honey you gotta walk the walk.
It's spiking. Surging. Soaring. Skyrocketing. Kids are "super-spreaders"!
When the propaganda machine runs out of words that start with "s", then it's raging. Or we are inundated with the virus.
I am sure I have missed several others.
Anyone?
wears mask below nose wrote:
Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
So tired of Clay Travis. He's been moving the goalposts from day 1. His favorite tactics are to use NY's probable death count (32K) to compare to Florida's (likely suppressed) confirmed death count (5K and rising). The real comparison is confirmed between the two states, though it's likely Florida has undercounted. That puts NY down to 25K. So 20% right now. The problem for Florida is they are averaging adding around 800 deaths a week now, while NY is down to around 80. Florida's cases and positive rate remain high, it is likely they will average 1000 deaths a week for the next few weeks and then 500+ after for a few weeks following that. It's pretty much in line with the trends to put them at around 9,000 deaths by sometime in September. Clay will then chalk this up as some great success as the numbers are below NY's. This will be ignoring some major factors.
1. Treatment of COVID-19 has improved by leaps and bounds
2. Florida had months of head start to prepare and ready for controlling the spread by encouraging mask-wearing, discouraging reckless behavior. They didn't get pelted before anyone knew what was happening in NY.
3. This simply did NOT have to happen. Thousands of these deaths are unnecessary, and DeSantis' leadership has been utterly terrible since declaring victory in May with Mike Pence
4. Florida and Texas/Arizona (to a lesser degree) have ruined a possible sense of normalcy that now endangers kids going back to school, sports, and so many other critical things. They've made what should've been a contained virus with 300 deaths a day and steadier caseloads into a frightening pandemic with eye-popping numbers every day.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
as for whether problem states are peaking...I'm tracking TX FL CA AZ
I look at deaths, not cases. Specifically the 7 day average of daily deaths.
Going by that measure, states at all time highs as of 7/19:
FL
TX
CA and AZ are very near their all time highs but not quite there.
So we can't say FL and TX are past peak.
As for CA and AZ...too early to say.
GA Gal wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
For the record, I have never posted under another name since I registered "Fat Hurts" a few years ago.
I stay home except to exercise or get food. The rest of my family does the same. I've said that from the beginning of this thread and it hasn't changed. But when I must go out to get food I wear a mask. That's the responsible thing to do.
It is irresponsible to live your normal life and think that you are doing your part just because you wear a mask and get tested. These are extraordinary times and we need to make certain sacrifices. Every expert agrees that the best way to stop the spread of the virus is to stay away from other people. I heard Dr. Fauci say it again today.
Now I do understand that you have tough decisions. Kids want to go to camp, but some camps have become super-spreaders. They to need to go school, but there are risks with that as well. Being a parent is hard.
BUSTED!
and a hypocrite. If you talk the talk honey you gotta walk the walk.
NUTTER!!
What are you talking about?
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
agip wrote:
as for whether problem states are peaking...I'm tracking TX FL CA AZ
I look at deaths, not cases. Specifically the 7 day average of daily deaths.
Going by that measure, states at all time highs as of 7/19:
FL
TX
CA and AZ are very near their all time highs but not quite there.
So we can't say FL and TX are past peak.
As for CA and AZ...too early to say.
Fair method. I've been observing Florida closely. Their deaths have a very distinct lag. It's a growing bell curve. Deaths will continue to grow for a given date 2-3 weeks. Right now the worst date is July 8 I believe at almost 100 deaths reported that day. But I'd expect you'll see in 2 weeks most days last week will exceed that. The "peak" will be past from a reporting perspective some 2 weeks after the real actual peak. Unfortunately, even if you're buying the slightly lower case #s and seesawing positive rates of late, that means we should expect our worst reported single day-deaths in 7-10 days.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
agip wrote:
as for whether problem states are peaking...I'm tracking TX FL CA AZ
I look at deaths, not cases. Specifically the 7 day average of daily deaths.
Going by that measure, states at all time highs as of 7/19:
FL
TX
CA and AZ are very near their all time highs but not quite there.
So we can't say FL and TX are past peak.
As for CA and AZ...too early to say.
Fair method. I've been observing Florida closely. Their deaths have a very distinct lag. It's a growing bell curve. Deaths will continue to grow for a given date 2-3 weeks. Right now the worst date is July 8 I believe at almost 100 deaths reported that day. But I'd expect you'll see in 2 weeks most days last week will exceed that. The "peak" will be past from a reporting perspective some 2 weeks after the real actual peak. Unfortunately, even if you're buying the slightly lower case #s and seesawing positive rates of late, that means we should expect our worst reported single day-deaths in 7-10 days.
looking at single day totals...doesnt' mean much because of 'clerk behavior.' A death requires much paperwork and it can be delayed if someone is sick, or overworked, or if a classification changes. After holiday weekends there is always a surge in deaths, as they work through undermanned desks on the holiday.
The 7 day average helps smooth that out.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
wears mask below nose wrote:
Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
So tired of Clay Travis. He's been moving the goalposts from day 1. His favorite tactics are to use NY's probable death count (32K) to compare to Florida's (likely suppressed) confirmed death count (5K and rising). The real comparison is confirmed between the two states, though it's likely Florida has undercounted. That puts NY down to 25K. So 20% right now. The problem for Florida is they are averaging adding around 800 deaths a week now, while NY is down to around 80. Florida's cases and positive rate remain high, it is likely they will average 1000 deaths a week for the next few weeks and then 500+ after for a few weeks following that. It's pretty much in line with the trends to put them at around 9,000 deaths by sometime in September. Clay will then chalk this up as some great success as the numbers are below NY's. This will be ignoring some major factors.
1. Treatment of COVID-19 has improved by leaps and bounds
2. Florida had months of head start to prepare and ready for controlling the spread by encouraging mask-wearing, discouraging reckless behavior. They didn't get pelted before anyone knew what was happening in NY.
3. This simply did NOT have to happen. Thousands of these deaths are unnecessary, and DeSantis' leadership has been utterly terrible since declaring victory in May with Mike Pence
4. Florida and Texas/Arizona (to a lesser degree) have ruined a possible sense of normalcy that now endangers kids going back to school, sports, and so many other critical things. They've made what should've been a contained virus with 300 deaths a day and steadier caseloads into a frightening pandemic with eye-popping numbers every day.
Clay Travis is also the guy who complained when an airline wouldn't let his kid fly while infested with lice, so I'm not sure I trust his judgment on public health.
Definitely. Only looking at single days in the context of trying to interpret when deaths are being reported from e.g. 97 deaths today, when did they come from, and are 3 or 4-day pockets getting better or worse. Right now the trend is getting worse, and we can expect some more record days.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
[quote]agip wrote:
as for whether problem states are peaking...I'm tracking TX FL CA AZ
I look at deaths, not cases. Specifically the 7 day average of daily deaths.
Fair method. I've been observing Florida closely. Their deaths have a very distinct lag. It's a growing bell curve. Deaths will continue to grow for a given date 2-3 weeks. Right now the worst date is July 8 I believe at almost 100 deaths reported that day. But I'd expect you'll see in 2 weeks most days last week will exceed that. The "peak" will be past from a reporting perspective some 2 weeks after the real actual peak. Unfortunately, even if you're buying the slightly lower case #s and seesawing positive rates of late, that means we should expect our worst reported single day-deaths in 7-10 days.
Yet not happening in Georgia
7-day average positivity rate: 15.1%
7-day average positivity rate one week ago: 16.0%
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Georgia is probably too early to tell. I don't think anyone is arguing that death rates haven't fallen. At 3,100 cases per day that's around a quarter of what Florida's reporting. It might manifest in ~50 deaths per day in a week or two, but that wouldn't be as striking as Florida's 150-200 a day which we could see.
L'Oncle wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
[quote]agip wrote:
as for whether problem states are peaking...I'm tracking TX FL CA AZ
I look at deaths, not cases. Specifically the 7 day average of daily deaths.
Fair method. I've been observing Florida closely. Their deaths have a very distinct lag. It's a growing bell curve. Deaths will continue to grow for a given date 2-3 weeks. Right now the worst date is July 8 I believe at almost 100 deaths reported that day. But I'd expect you'll see in 2 weeks most days last week will exceed that. The "peak" will be past from a reporting perspective some 2 weeks after the real actual peak. Unfortunately, even if you're buying the slightly lower case #s and seesawing positive rates of late, that means we should expect our worst reported single day-deaths in 7-10 days.
Yet not happening in Georgia
I'm not not seeing a rise in deaths in GA correct.
Although GA has been really slimy on data integrity so who knows with that state.