Nick Willies throws shade at Sifan Hassan on twitter

Armstronglivs wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

And you know this how?

His Olympic record speaks for itself. That he openly condemns doping confirms that he is not indifferent to what it is doing to the sport.

Please. I've had a look at his account and he seems to be one of those who think only white Anglo-Saxons and Northern Europeans like the Ingebrigtsens can be trusted. Therefore I suspect it didn't take much of a leap to single out and shade Hassan, even though she deserves it. Not atypical for a kiwis, in my experience.

When the Fancy Bears list leaked, Evan Jager (who was flagged as likely doping) said Zane Robertson sought him out in St Moritz to assure him that he "knows" that he's not doping. Seriously! This is guy who, at the time, was living in Kenya and probably didn't even know Jager personally, but was confident enough to declare his innocence, based presumably on shared culture and appearance. Preposterous! Willis appears to function in the same way, with the same biases. And given what people have shared about his private life on this thread, I wouldn't trust him with Donald Trump's life.

I was almost secretly quite pleased to see El K back for these Championships, but I'd forgotten what a hardcore racist he was, and a generally all-round piece of turd as a human being!

I hadn't seen Coevett's post above. There's a reason he likes Willis so much. They appear to share the same views. Again, get me someone trustworthy to publically call out the dopers, not the likes of Paula Radcliffe and Nick Willis.

Racist? How? I judge people by their words and actions and I'll have you know that I'm rarely wrong. So, for example, when I state that "Coevett is a racist". It's just plain fact, based on my observations. And many would agree with me.

Ho, Hum - boringggggg wrote:

Tell that to Steve Ovett from GRB, and Rod Dixon from New Zealand.

Hassan is basically as fast as Steve Ovett ever was over the HM distance.

Armstronglivs wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Racist? How? I judge people by their words and actions and I'll have you know that I'm rarely wrong. So, for example, when I state that "Coevett is a racist". It's just plain fact, based on my observations. And many would agree with me.

Sieg heil

That is not funny. Not even as a joke.

But apparently you don't realize you are not funny, ever.

Subway Surfers wrote:

canspo wrote:

Other athletes had races not outside the level of improvement seen by Hassan. I guess only those battling further back than the front are allowed to have big jumps? I have zero doubt that Houlihan is clean, but how is her dropping 3:54 much different than Hassan?

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She went from 4:04 to 3:57 with a kick in one season. She went from tubby-ish to rippled all over in the space of about 9 months or less. I raised my suspicions, I was the the only one. Her excuse was "I've always had the speed," which isn't true her speed isn't spectacular. She has a Ben Johnson arrogance about her, she is content to run in lanes 2-3 for much of the race because she can out kick runners that we know are suspicious.

We have said it time and time again - STOP seeing NOP-Salazar, NOP-Julian and BTC-Schumacher as separate entities. ALL these groups and athletes are in connection with Nike, use their medical developments/inventions to boost performance, some of them being so radically new that only future tests will reveal it.

Houlihan is about to become what Hassan already is - someone, who could medal next Olympics from 800 to 10k, while setting a huge half PR alongside. She ran 1:59 earlier this season without 800m-specific training, before she was in 3:55 shape. Whatever the coached groups at Nike are using, it WORKS. LR users here always complain about the shoes, but in reality there is MUCH more going on especially in terms of drugs and PEDs.

What happens when you have billions of dollars to dispose, corrupt coaches/doctors willing to do ANYTHING to succeed, a team of medical experts being able to develop the newest performance-enhancing drugs and a team of lawyers that prevents anyone from just taking a little glimpse into what's happening in Nike groups? Corrupt, over-the-top performances and a robbing of medals that belong to clean athletes.

Never heard of him. Next

Register an account87 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sieg heil

That is not funny. Not even as a joke.

But apparently you don't realize you are not funny, ever.

But you are.

agree

Armstronglivs wrote:

Hassan is merely a doper; her intellectual qualities are not at issue; yours clearly are.

You're the stupidest poster in the history of this website.

You're certainly no judge of somebody else, whether for doping or intelligence.

Besides your complete failure at logic, your grammar and punctuation capacity seriously sucks.

El Keniano wrote:

Racist? How? I judge people by their words and actions and I'll have you know that I'm rarely wrong. So, for example, when I state that "Coevett is a racist". It's just plain fact, based on my observations. And many would agree with me.

According to Coevett, being a non-racist makes you a racist.

Because you're the opposite of a racist like him, whom he refers to as a "not a racist," that makes you a racist.

Thus, he calls you a racist, because you're the opposite of a "not a racist," which to him, makes you a racist.

No, that doesn't make any sense, but that's how his belief system works.

Double think 1984 wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Racist? How? I judge people by their words and actions and I'll have you know that I'm rarely wrong. So, for example, when I state that "Coevett is a racist". It's just plain fact, based on my observations. And many would agree with me.

According to Coevett, being a non-racist makes you a racist.

Because you're the opposite of a racist like him, whom he refers to as a "not a racist," that makes you a racist.

Thus, he calls you a racist, because you're the opposite of a "not a racist," which to him, makes you a racist.

No, that doesn't make any sense, but that's how his belief system works.

What?

A racist is somebody who believes one race is inherently superior to others.

I'm simply arguing that East African dominance at distance running can be explained better by doping than them being inherently better at running.

As for El K - even most of my many haters here agree he's as racist as can be

Coevett wrote:

Double think 1984 wrote:

According to Coevett, being a non-racist makes you a racist.

Because you're the opposite of a racist like him, whom he refers to as a "not a racist," that makes you a racist.

Thus, he calls you a racist, because you're the opposite of a "not a racist," which to him, makes you a racist.

No, that doesn't make any sense, but that's how his belief system works.

What?

A racist is somebody who believes one race is inherently superior to others.

I'm simply arguing that East African dominance at distance running can be explained better by doping than them being inherently better at running.

As for El K - even most of my many haters here agree he's as racist as can be

I take it by "East African" you mean Kenya, Ethiopia as well as Uganda? Do you think the top athletes from these countries are actually all doping?

No question there's a doping problem in Kenya based on the number of bans and provisional suspensions. And both Kenya & Ethiopia are on the IAAF's "most likely to dope" watch list. But do you really think the entire success achieved by these two countries is all the result of doping? And what about Uganda? I can't recall a single doping positive or ABP infraction from that country, and they're not IAAF's most likely to dope list either.

Stop the vomit. wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Hassan is merely a doper; her intellectual qualities are not at issue; yours clearly are.

You're the stupidest poster in the history of this website.

You're certainly no judge of somebody else, whether for doping or intelligence.

Besides your complete failure at logic, your grammar and punctuation capacity seriously sucks.

Cmon, you're just jealous, because you're afraid someone's going to take away from you the honour of being "the stupidest poster in the history of this website". Love your punctuation and grammar, too. Simple. Like you.

Double think 1984 wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Racist? How? I judge people by their words and actions and I'll have you know that I'm rarely wrong. So, for example, when I state that "Coevett is a racist". It's just plain fact, based on my observations. And many would agree with me.

According to Coevett, being a non-racist makes you a racist.

Because you're the opposite of a racist like him, whom he refers to as a "not a racist," that makes you a racist.

Thus, he calls you a racist, because you're the opposite of a "not a racist," which to him, makes you a racist.

No, that doesn't make any sense, but that's how his belief system works.

You're right, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I suppose that makes you the opposite of a person who says he is not what someone says he is not. That is really useful to know.

casual obsever wrote:

For sure, Nick is a lot less suspicious than Sifan. I leave it at that.

Yup ++++

Her range is actually pretty normal for a 14:00/29:00 athlete. Lots of dudes in that range. Most there are knocking on the door of sub 4 and have 1:50 800. Hassan is well off of those. Conversely, most 14 flat 5k males would probably struggle to run 65' half. She is a little better on that side.

Again, the inherent suspicion is how fast she is. I agree with tracks history being a 14/29 athlete is suspicious.

Her range, and performances, are not. Every 14 flat male runner could easily so the same thing Hassan did in Doha.

Imagine also, upgraded Farah, with 12:00/25:00 ability. What do you think he would run for 1500? Probably something like 3:23-3:24. For half? 57 something. He would be utterly dominant, in the same way Hassan is, at all distances. When you're that fit, you dominate from 800-HM (unless you are brutally speed limited, then you're 800 might be uniquely slow.

Or imagine Muir, but she improves her aerobic side and shaves 30s off her 5k. Where does her 1500 go? Probably down to low 3:50s. Oh. Now she is basically Hassan.

It absolutely does not go against anything we know about muscle fiber ratio or anything else.

Hassan being in 14' shape is suspicious. Simple as that.

And yes, it raises eyebrows. At the same time, she could be the athlete of the century and be legit. No way to know. You have two options, appreciate the performances and hope she is clean, or just ignore track and field because there is a good chance she is doping.

If you think Nick Willis is a terrible person then I feel bad for you.