AJ - Give it hell!
Sub 6 - Hope the knee comes around.
OR - If you're not slinging shoes while you're at the store, hope you're foam rolling like a boss. 4 * 2k is a really tough workout. Your workouts have looked really IMPRESSIVE. I'm still looking forward to the Richmond race reprt
Guy B - You've got the right attitude. Enjoy the fries and cake for now, and get back at it when it's time.
OR - hearing sweet home made my day. Thanks man. As for giving it hell, I’m going to do my best. Who knows if it will be my day. The marathon is suck a fickle and unpredictable mistress.
RRR/RGW - Thanks. I have found foam rolling to be awkward and lots of work, but I will give it a try again.
AJ - Your training has been superb. Trust in it.
I like to use my knuckles to massage/"foam roll" my legs while watching TV :p. That's my way around the awkwardness and clunkiness
Go AJ!!!
outsiderunner wrote:
RRR/RGW - Thanks. I have found foam rolling to be awkward and lots of work, but I will give it a try again.
AJ - Your training has been superb. Trust in it.
Hahaha runners ... will go run 20 miles ... but foam rolling is a "lot of work"
runrincerepeat wrote:
outsiderunner wrote:
RRR/RGW - Thanks. I have found foam rolling to be awkward and lots of work, but I will give it a try again.
AJ - Your training has been superb. Trust in it.
Hahaha runners ... will go run 20 miles ... but foam rolling is a "lot of work"
I knew you would say that! Hahaha
Angry Johnny - HAVE A GREAT RACE!
Outside Runner - while we're all chiming in with recs, I'd look into both voodoo flossing and nerve flossing. Despite the similar sounding words, they're two different things - voodoo flossing involves wrapping a tight band around the muscle for 2 minutes and mobilizing; nerve flossing involves gliding the sciatic nerve back and forth.
Both are easily google-able, shouldn't do any harm, and may help. In my experience, hamstring issues often have a sciatic component that compounds the issue.
Chiming in on the mileage/VDOT discussion - I've run far faster on 60 miles per week than I ever did on 80+. I do think I'm a bit of an outlier though - I just can't take that much running without digging a fatigue hole. But holding myself as a counter example that more is not always better.
I did a lot of nerve flossing when has the piriformis issues last summer. Helped a lot to realign the sciatic nerve when I was in massive pain. Basically sitting in a chair and extending the leg and holding it. Or similar. I you tubed it.
darkwave wrote:
Chiming in on the mileage/VDOT discussion - I've run far faster on 60 miles per week than I ever did on 80+. I do think I'm a bit of an outlier though - I just can't take that much running without digging a fatigue hole. But holding myself as a counter example that more is not always better.
Knew a guy who was was top 5 (maybe 3?) on a team that placed 3rd in DI cross country who ran his best on 35-40 miles per week. He said that he tried to run more, but things tended to break down.
My best year in college had a base period in the 90-110 range. The following year I was hitting more like 110-120 with the idea of trying to run a decent 10k, but was flat in the fall, hit a 1600 TT in the 4:30s, got bursitis around Thanksgiving, and eventually redshirted, which I didn’t get back in the end.
I’m definitely a mileage guy, but we all have a sweet spot, which changes over time.
darkwave - Yes! There is definitely a sciatic thing going on here, too, I can feel it. Thank you!
RGW - Forgot to mention...it was 4x2 miles, not 4x2 k.
I'm also jumping in to give a shout out to AJ! Have a great day out there!!!
Oh, and don't worry about hitting the wall. Mr. Reagan took care of that for you.
darkwave wrote:
Chiming in on the mileage/VDOT discussion - I've run far faster on 60 miles per week than I ever did on 80+. I do think I'm a bit of an outlier though - I just can't take that much running without digging a fatigue hole. But holding myself as a counter example that more is not always better.
In most of the cases (not all) runners go to higher mileage and continue to run the same average daily pace. That is why they get hurt. You need to slow down and give yourself more recovery between workouts.
AJ - “Beat Bekele”
Sub 6:00 wrote:
AJ - “Beat Bekele”
Sick and kick easy money
Sit and kick*
Getting late here in Berlin and I’m bored. Here are 10 random thoughts:
1. The Germans know how to do public transportation. Buses and trains run often and on-time, and there are no turn-stiles or ticket takers. You just get on, honor system style.
2. Berlin is a weird mix of beautiful old structures like the Brandenburg Gate, post-war buildings that are generally not so beautiful (esp in the east), and then more modern stuff that has sprung up in the dead zone previously occupied by the Wall.
3. Berlin is really spread out. Few skyscrapers. There’s no skyline like in most big American cities. Gives it a strange feel.
4. The Tiergarten is a runners paradise. Imagine a flat Central Park with less people, more trees, and all hard packed gravel trails/roads.
5. You have to pay to use most public bathrooms. It’s only like 50 cents, but still annoying.
6. There’s a German TV station showing the Texas A&M vs Arkansas football game. I had no idea that was a thing over here. Listening to the German announcers was pretty hysterical for the first 5 minutes, but now I’d prefer even the worst American announcer, I.e. Musberger.
7. It feels good outside. Mid 50s and a light breeze. Rain has stopped. Not my dream conditions, but it’s workable. (Shirtless of course).
8. I have not seen any elites. Bekele is apparently afraid to show his face to the giraffe that plans to run his suicidal ass down.
9. No matter how well I’ve trained, self-doubt always creeps in during the taper. It can be something as stupid as a sluggish shakeout run. Gotta remind myself of all the miles and workouts that I accumulated before the taper.
10. I have no idea what’s in store tomorrow. Hopefully the magic happens, but if it doesn’t, it’s been a fun ride. I appreciate all the support from my RR&T friends.
angryjohnny wrote:
8. I have not seen any elites. Bekele is apparently afraid to show his face to the giraffe that plans to run his suicidal ass down.
+1000
AJ rockin' the Berlin. I love it.