Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Just read an article dated 1 June saying the Ethiopian team for the world champs will be Worknesh Degefa, Shute Demise, Ruti Aga, Roza Dereje, and Helen Tola. Cannot believe I hadn’t seen it before.
Worknesh and Aga named for New York in first week of November, will they do both?
supposedly Sara hall is doing Berlin and New York 5 weeks apart
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Cherono, Wasihun, Kitata, Kipserem and technically Molla from my top 10, unless you know any of their plans. Molla surprised me running the 2 mile at Pre, as I figured he’d switch to the marathon after his 2:03:34 debut. He was entered in the 5k in Lausanne but didn’t start, so maybe he is in fact headed to the roads. I think he’s a major threat.
cherono v Farah v rupp in Chicago
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
cherono v Farah v rupp in Chicago
I thought you’d meant Gladys Cherono, not Lawrence. Personally I really hope Lawrence Cherono (or anyone) can leave Farah in the dust. What was that noise about Farah maybe running the WC 10,000 based on some Instagram post? Is that for real?
Chicago is deep: molla, Chumba, Kipkemboi. Rupp could finish 7th!
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Ruth breaks another course record in a half, this time in South America
Thinking about a hypothetical. The way I think it will pan out over the fall is: Vivian or Cherono in Berlin in a faster time than New York, Ruth over Aga in the worlds (slow time), Chicago who knows, and Degefa over Mary in New York, breaking the course record. Where would this project these rankings for year-end ones?
Thinking about the men this fall: Legese over Sisay Lemma in Berlin, geremew wins worlds, cherono beats molla and Farah in Chicago, desisa over kitata in New York. Top eight becomes
Kipchoge
Geremew
L. Cherono
Desisa
Wasihun
Legese
Kitata
Molla, IMO.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARATHONS
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Same article listed geremew, legese, desisa, and tamarit Tola.
Yes to geremew but no to desisa but add molla. Also Kipserem from Kenya if track and field news are right.
So now officially it’s geremew, wasihun, desisa, and kitata. L.o.a.d.e.d.
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Ruth breaks another course record in a half, this time in South America
Thinking about a hypothetical. The way I think it will pan out over the fall is: Vivian or Cherono in Berlin in a faster time than New York, Ruth over Aga in the worlds (slow time), Chicago who knows, and Degefa over Mary in New York, breaking the course record. Where would this project these rankings for year-end ones?
So I still think Ruth wins worlds but Dereje and salpeter duel for second in front of Aga.
That will leave it as:
Kosgei
Ruth
Vivian
Degefa
Second at worlds
Keitany
Third at worlds
Cherono
Aga
Aussiestatman wrote:
Rankerchief wrote:
1. Brigid Kosgei
2. Ruth Chepng’etich
3. Vivian Cheruiyot
4. Gladys Cherono
5. Roza Dereje
6. Mary Keitany
7. Worknesh Degefa
8. Ruti Aga
9. Lonah Salpeter
10. Ashete Bekere
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T. Dibaba
S. Demise
E. Kiplagat
i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.
Hoping that any two of Ashete Bekere, Burka, and Jemeli may be among the ‘famous four’ running Berlin. Or even Birhane Dibaba after she tore up Copenhagen. I have been bugging the organisers to tell me but all I get is:”elite list not finalised”. Twelve days!
Ultra Runner Shishkabob wrote:
NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARATHONS
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU TRAINING FOR A SLOW AF MILE RACE.
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Hoping that any two of Ashete Bekere, Burka, and Jemeli may be among the ‘famous four’ running Berlin. Or even Birhane Dibaba after she tore up Copenhagen. I have been bugging the organisers to tell me but all I get is:”elite list not finalised”. Twelve days!
Seems to me that Berlin organizers are embarrassed by the relatively weak field they’ve managed to enlist, or they’d have released more info.
The next few weeks are going to be insane for elite marathoning. Berlin 9/29, WCs 9/29, Chicago 10/13, and the Ineos 1:59 event between 10/12 & 10/20.
I’ve always rooted for Kipchoge to this point, but I’ve finally just grown tired of him dominating and would kind of like to see him fail in Vienna and start to show just a little age. To his credit, it took 5 years for me to tire of his dominance, whereas I was rooting wholeheartedly for Farah to lose by 2013 (and still am).
I like your predictions on the men’s side, which I feel most familiar with. I like Geremew as much as anyone as the next big thing—though WCs may be a different ballgame and a total crapshoot if it’s brutally hot.
Here’s my honest feeling on the likelihood of the following athletes winning in Chicago.
Mo Farah 33%
Lawrence Cherono 31%
Getaneh Molla 17%
Kenneth Kipkemoi 7%
Bedan Karoki 4%
Dickson Chumba 3%
Herpasa Negasa 2%
Galen Rupp 2%
Hassan El Abbassi 1%
Farah is such an ass. Hopefully Cherono exposes him in Chicago.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Hoping that any two of Ashete Bekere, Burka, and Jemeli may be among the ‘famous four’ running Berlin. Or even Birhane Dibaba after she tore up Copenhagen. I have been bugging the organisers to tell me but all I get is:”elite list not finalised”. Twelve days!
Seems to me that Berlin organizers are embarrassed by the relatively weak field they’ve managed to enlist, or they’d have released more info.
The next few weeks are going to be insane for elite marathoning. Berlin 9/29, WCs 9/29, Chicago 10/13, and the Ineos 1:59 event between 10/12 & 10/20.
I’ve always rooted for Kipchoge to this point, but I’ve finally just grown tired of him dominating and would kind of like to see him fail in Vienna and start to show just a little age. To his credit, it took 5 years for me to tire of his dominance, whereas I was rooting wholeheartedly for Farah to lose by 2013 (and still am).
I like your predictions on the men’s side, which I feel most familiar with. I like Geremew as much as anyone as the next big thing—though WCs may be a different ballgame and a total crapshoot if it’s brutally hot.
Here’s my honest feeling on the likelihood of the following athletes winning in Chicago.
Mo Farah 33%
Lawrence Cherono 31%
Getaneh Molla 17%
Kenneth Kipkemoi 7%
Bedan Karoki 4%
Dickson Chumba 3%
Herpasa Negasa 2%
Galen Rupp 2%
Hassan El Abbassi 1%
Can’t see the sit and kick getting it done with three or four that have fast Dubai times in the mix
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What time at halfway?
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Can’t see the sit and kick getting it done with three or four that have fast Dubai times in the mix
The only 2 I see with fast Dubai times are Molla and Negasa. Last year, Farah outkicked Geremew who had won Dubai in ~2:04:00 that January. I’d like to see the guys with fast PRs target Kimetto’s CR and break Farah, but when I consider the most likely storyline, it’s Farah winning in similar fashion to last year by a hair.
Alright, 3 or 4 was an exaggeration. But those two plus Bedan Karoki who on exceptional half times must have a 2.04.xx in his kit bag? Lawrence Cherono has a win over Desisa at Boston this year, Dickson Chumba is quality, and Kenneth Kipkemoi ran twice last year in under 2.06.
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.
Hoping that any two of Ashete Bekere, Burka, and Jemeli may be among the ‘famous four’ running Berlin. Or even Birhane Dibaba after she tore up Copenhagen. I have been bugging the organisers to tell me but all I get is:”elite list not finalised”. Twelve days!
Ashete Bekere named for Berlin next weekend. My tip for runner-up and confirming my top ten.
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Thinking about a hypothetical. The way I think it will pan out over the fall is: Vivian or Cherono in Berlin in a faster time than New York, Ruth over Aga in the worlds (slow time), Chicago who knows, and Degefa over Mary in New York, breaking the course record. Where would this project these rankings for year-end ones?
So I still think Ruth wins worlds but Dereje and salpeter duel for second in front of Aga.
That will leave it as:
Kosgei
Ruth
Vivian
Degefa
Second at worlds
Keitany
Third at worlds
Cherono
Aga
With Vivian out, if Degefa is especially impressive in New York; is the battle for third the big one next year?
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
I would be very careful in making predictions for the WC marathons. 90 degree weather makes it a considerably different endurance challenge, and there will be some casualties. If a relative no-name wins while a favorite finishes 30th, I won’t read too much into it.
I agree with the men and women who still have other engagements this year. You wouldn’t think Aga or Desisa will quite put their bodies on the line in the last 5k if they are planning to back up for New York.