Roger Stone arrested

NO COLLUSION!

GRU->Wikileaks->Roger Stone->Steve Bannon->Donald Trump

Yeah... NO COLLUSION!!!

It seems clear that the manner by which Roger Stone was arrested — an early-morning raid on his home, observed by media — was intended to put pressure on him to cooperate. Ordinarily, a white-collar defendant is allowed to self-surrender to authorities, unless there is fear of escape, which does not appear to be the case here, as evidenced by his low bail. Whether Stone “sings” or “composes” remains to be seen.

He has said he would never cooperate, but attorney Michael Cohen said he would take a bullet for President Trump — before he turned against him in an effort to get a reduced sentence. Prosecutors have many weapons at their disposal to get reluctant witnesses to cooperate, such as threatening to indict family members as in the Michael Flynn case. Civil libertarians should be concerned about the tactics being used by Mueller to get witnesses to sing. All Americans should be concerned about the ends-justify-the-means approach taken by the special prosecutor.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/427020-alan-dershowitz-stone-indictment-follows-concerning-mueller-pattern

If this doesn't shake you up to defend Democracy, then nothing will....

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Frank Marshall Davis wrote:

Cheerleader for Gestapo tactics wrote:

Another non-violent process "criminal" arrested via pre-dawn raid by zealous SWAT team forces.

+1!

Even my liberal friends thought that deploying the cavalry and inviting CNN to film it was a little weird.

It was to look for evidence, not the arrest.

Here's some sanity.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Yep, it's almost like the Libs are realizing -24 hours late like usual - that they over-played their MSM hand + victory laps, and ultimately their brutal methods had no purpose but to shine light on the charadical nature, and sane America won't like the optics.

Finally, the Truth is being exposed....A thread about the possibility of Bernie Sanders as a very 2016 Kremlin-Trump operation.

Has Bernie said he will reject all help from botnets, foreign and domestic?

That when bots and bros engage in “fratting” in his name—swarming women online with derision, mocking and sexual harassment—he will not tolerate it?

And, what the hay, will he show his taxes this time?

Umm, duh?

Here's the obvious reason they had to raid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/opinion/roger-stone-indictment-mueller-investigation.html

NYT reader wrote:

Umm, duh?

Here's the obvious reason they had to raid.

It was probably not Stone himself but his electronic devices

A convenient post-hoc theory from Fake News.

Anyway, too bad this guy didn't advise DOJ/FBI when dealing with Hillary server.

Looks like the Mueller goons were too eager, and could blow open their entire operation in the blow-back.

More details are coming out about the Crossfire Hurricane plot to target members of President Trump’s team with fake Russian meetings in order to trigger surveillance measures.

By way of example, as you know, back in June I sent this Committee a letter regarding a longtime FBI informant named Gennadiy Vasilievich Vostretsov who, under the alias “Henry Greenberg”, was sent to approach my client in May 2016 with claims of having access to information that could impact the election, writes Stone’s attorney Grant Smith in a letter to Rep. Devin Nunes. Mr. Stone not only immediately and forcefully declined to participate in anything this FBI informant was proposing, but never saw or spoke to the informant again. Mr. Stone believes it highly likely that Mr. Vostretsov/Greenberg’s status as an FBI informant was not “former”, and that Vostretsov/Greenberg was, in fact, actively working on behalf of the FBI at the time of their meeting, acting upon a calculated effort to entrap Mr. Stone and, further, to infiltrate and compromise the Trump effort. Notably, Vostretsov was admitted to the country nine separate times on an FBI Informant’s visa, Smith writes on Stone’s behalf.

Stone is demanding that the full transcript of his interview with the House Intelligence Committee be released to the public to prove once and for all that Stone did not collude with the Russians during the 2016 presidential election. The Intelligence Committee voted to release the transcript of Stone’s behind-closed-doors interview to Robert Mueller’s office, but the transcript has still not been provided to the public. Nunes has not released the transcript. I am not allowed to inspect it. They are not allowed to take notes. It’s four and a half hours long and is maintained in a secure room in the US House of Representatives,

Mueller’s request for a copy is the result of a one year campaign of distortion and disinformation by Adam Schiff and the Schiff-heads. Portions of my testimony have been linked to by Natasha Bertrand of the Atlantic which is a direct violation of law, Stone said.

Stone wanted to testify publicly, but the Intelligence Committee would not let him do so. It is highly unlikely that Mueller will publish any information that vindicates Stone, due to the special counsel’s determined crusade to keep the “Russia” collusion narrative going without any evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.

Stone recently passed a lie-detector test regarding the Russia-themed allegations against him.

NYT reader wrote:

Umm, duh?

Here's the obvious reason they had to raid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/opinion/roger-stone-indictment-mueller-investigation.html

That has been pieced together countless times on various liberal message boards, that the focus on Roger Stone would be on missing communication and possibly available on his electronic devices. I have seen it proposed for at least a year. Not concrete but step by step analysis by some of the posters who have been on top of matters all along.

That's why it is somewhat difficult for me to believe that Stone did not get rid of anything incriminating. After all, like Trump he has been a liar and crook for half a century. But sometimes these guys are so accustomed to cheating the system and getting away with it they cannot imagine any level in which it will end, and they get sloppy.

Robert Mueller is a different level. The deniers of that will continue to look remarkably stupid.

Trump also is now down to 39.3% approval rating on the 538 compilation. At 38% average since inauguration day as tracked by ABC News/Washington Post. Trump is 23% lower than the average presidential approval over the opening two years, and the lowest since the numbers have been tracked, which is 72 years. Obama averaged 55% over the same time frame. Clinton averaged 51%. John F. Kennedy had the highest average approval over the opening two years, at 74%.

As I've emphasized countless times, that low approval rating is devastating for the GOP because newly registered voters are politically imprinted by presidential approval when they turn 18 years old. Trump is stamping this young generation as a blue generation throughout their lives. Trump is staying afloat only because the Silent Generation born 1928-1945 was politically imprinted as heavily Republican, due to turning 18 with either an unpopular Democrat (Truman) or very popular Republican (Eisenhower) in office. But those Silent types are facing mortality every day. Many of Trump's 2016 voters will never make it to 2020.

Also, it should be no surprise that CNN guessed that Roger Stone might be indicted. Liberal message boards late Thursday night were flooded with threads indicating that Mueller would have indictments on Friday. The guys who specialize in this stuff are not guessing. They know what to look for. I was somewhat skeptical but the posters who have been most accurate all along were insisting that the odds were 50/50 at worst based on the tea leaves.

Maybe that stuff didn't make it here. I haven't been posting here.

Anyway, once CNN had the same knowledge then it's just a matter of figuring out who it might be. Everyone understood that Roger Stone would be at or near the top of the list.

NYT reader wrote:

Umm, duh?

Here's the obvious reason they had to raid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/26/opinion/roger-stone-indictment-mueller-investigation.html

Heh. So they had to raid in the hopes of finding evidence of more post-investigation process crimes?!?!

LOL. Mueller already had all of Stone's devices he used during the campaign and even inauguration period.

The actual purpose of having such an ostentatious raid was to make the American people think that Stone was a big deal. Mueller and his office are simply putting on a show to distract people from realizing that the real upshot of his indictment is that Stone really had no connection to Russia at all, and only a tenuous connection (thru Credico) to Wikileaks.

Also, it should be no surprise that CNN guessed that Roger Stone might be indicted. Liberal message boards late Thursday night were flooded with threads indicating that Mueller would have indictments on Friday. The guys who specialize in this stuff are not guessing. They know what to look for. I was somewhat skeptical but the posters who have been most accurate all along were insisting that the odds were 50/50 at worst based on the tea leaves.

Again, you deliberately dodge the salient part.

One can agree that CNN and indeed every other media org might be there....

But why the FBI didn't remove them when doing a supposedly highly dangerous raid???

Stone is a Nixon lover boy and a vile corrupt human being and has no place in politics. When Stone is involved you can bet ethics, morals and legality are thrown out the window. His history speaks for himself.

He’s simply the beginning of the end....Trump Jr and Kushner will most likely be indicted next. Trump will be subpoenaed. My guess is before the 2020 campaign kicks off.

Alan

That Roger Stone is being indicted for process crimes shows that the end is near...for Mueller. He's got nothin'.

Mueller himself notes that the Trump campaign was so clueless about what Wikileaks was up to that they were trying to glean info from the likes of Roger Stone. Pretty much torpedoes the narrative that anyone in the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia, or even that they had any clue what the Russians had provided to Wikileaks.

No indictments of Russians who had anything to do with Trump.

No indictments of Americans who had anything to do with Putin/GRU/Wikileaks.

No conspiracy. No collusion. Mueller has known this for months now. CNN/MSNBC do their best to obscure it daily.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Stone is a Nixon lover boy and a vile corrupt human being and has no place in politics, UNLESS HE JOINS THE DEMOCRATS. When Stone is involved you can bet ethics, morals and legality are thrown out the window. His history speaks for himself.

He’s simply the beginning of the end....Trump Jr and Kushner will most likely be indicted next. Trump will be subpoenaed. My guess is before the 2020 campaign kicks off.

Alan

^Fixed that for you

Man Overboard wrote:

That Roger Stone is being indicted for process crimes shows that the end is near...for Mueller. He's got nothin'.

Mueller himself notes that the Trump campaign was so clueless about what Wikileaks was up to that they were trying to glean info from the likes of Roger Stone. Pretty much torpedoes the narrative that anyone in the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia, or even that they had any clue what the Russians had provided to Wikileaks.

No indictments of Russians who had anything to do with Trump.

No indictments of Americans who had anything to do with Putin/GRU/Wikileaks.

No conspiracy. No collusion. Mueller has known this for months now. CNN/MSNBC do their best to obscure it daily.

I'm waiting with baited breath every day for this Muller report, just like I'm waiting for the recording Amarosa has of Trump saying "ni**er." (Remember how that story was all the rage for about 3 days back in the late summer or some such? How do these people not see that its all a perpetual hoax happening before their eyes?)