Jim Walmsey is better than you and so is ultra running

U.S.D.A.1 wrote:

Re: UTMB: "Furthest ever American Leader in Race"

Who states that as an accomplishment? It's not even correct. Zach Miller has lead UTMB further.

First time Jim ran Lake Sonoma he ran 6:40 +. First two times he ran JFK50 he ran over 5:45 and 5:40. He ran so poorly at Speedgoat he got chicked and almost got beat by Camille Herron at World Champs 100km. He was mediocre at best and had a 1:07-1:08 half marathon PB coming out of Air Force. Not a ultra-distance prodigy by any means even on limited training.

Something drastically changed 2-3 years ago after his DUI and cheating scandal discharged him from the AirForce.

Moran alert. This dude is always on these threads, arguing that lack of training and experience don't matter to race results. It's been well documented how little training Walmsley did when he dipped his. toes into ultras, and I've pointed it out to you at least a couple times.

chub rub wrote:

The Chicago marathon has an 88 degree day and it is a complete marathon apocalypse. It is 106 at Western States and Walmsley sets a course record.

Exactly, Walmsey's fitness is off the charts. Him making the Olympic team will be LRC Gold - come on Jim!!!!!!!!

All the 50 college speedsters have to do is dedicate 3 or 4 years of 125 to 150 miles a week with 10k to 30k feet of elevation gain. Learn to run for hours at a time and how to fuel while running. Most weeks Walmsley only runs 20 to 25 hours. That's like a part time job. Heck, most of the idiots posting here probably waste that much time posting and could be out training. That does make it surprising the competition isn't better at ultras.

Evidence`/. wrote:

skinny wimps wrote:

Every dude I lift with has the work ethic that they could easily, easily, run a sub 2 hour marathon if they wanted.

It is well known that you and the dudes you hang out with have very small brains and are insecure little weenies.

Read the post he was responding to and then read the response again and try to figure out what he was doing there... clearly just illustrating the specious argument the first fool was making.

If ultrarunning is so easy then go win WS 100 or Hardrock or UTMB. Yes, ultrarunning is the sport for affluent white people. I'll give you that.

I'm not affluent but I will. Just watch me. wrote:

If ultrarunning is so easy then go win WS 100 or Hardrock or UTMB. Yes, ultrarunning is the sport for affluent white people. I'll give you that.

The sport started with poor hippies who didn’t have a dime to thier name. You are just wrong.

Well, at least we know Walmsley's not on EPO, because racing in 100+ degrees on that drug for 14 hours would have thickened the blood to the point of death.

Makes you realize how doped Paula Radcliffe must have been to score positive in 86-degree heat.

doesn't need EPO when limiting factors aren't related to oxygen carrying capacity. more like peptides/testosterone to endure downhill pounding from training 30,000 and 150mpw to make legs extra strong. then all one has to do is not mess up hydration and nutrition and bonk. overcoming muscle fatigue is the only obstacle. its not like Walms is the only 14-min 5km runner to jump into these ultras.

lkjkj wrote:

Well, at least we know Walmsley's not on EPO, because racing in 100+ degrees on that drug for 14 hours would have thickened the blood to the point of death.

Makes you realize how doped Paula Radcliffe must have been to score positive in 86-degree heat.

Sick 8:30 miles

why Jim Walmsley any better than any of us, because he is fast at long trail races? I don't envy him

I never understood distance runners even though I was technically one myself; so awkward and nervous and over-thinking. I’ve always tended to avoid them and preferred to hang out with the mid-d and sprinter crew. They are, in general, more fun and less nervous people. They talk about more than their PB’s and weekly mileage.

I was an all-american in college and ran the marathon Olympics trials once but i've realized the crowd is the same in road and ultra races.

I just don’t understand the anger and hate and binary attitude here. You…We, are all mostly just awkward nerds. No one is better than the other.

Just be happy you share the same love: Running.

U.S.D.A.1, why don't you explain how Lance/Tyler/Floyd/Pantani, etc. wouldn't benefit from EPO in cycling, since the limiting factors aren't related to oxygen carrying capacity? By the way, thanks for proving Canova right.

U.S.D.A.1 wrote:

doesn't need EPO when limiting factors aren't related to oxygen carrying capacity. more like peptides/testosterone to endure downhill pounding from training 30,000 and 150mpw to make legs extra strong. then all one has to do is not mess up hydration and nutrition and bonk. overcoming muscle fatigue is the only obstacle.

its not like Walms is the only 14-min 5km runner to jump into these ultras.

lkjkj wrote:

Well, at least we know Walmsley's not on EPO, because racing in 100+ degrees on that drug for 14 hours would have thickened the blood to the point of death.

Makes you realize how doped Paula Radcliffe must have been to score positive in 86-degree heat.

The hate is a jealousy thing. It's the same reason they hate the local guy who BQs, makes a FaceBook post and gets 400 likes. People actually like that local guy, so LRC types have to rain on his parade because he is an "attention-seeking, hobby jogger" or some crap. Same idea here.

GBohannon wrote:

The hate is a jealousy thing. It's the same reason they hate the local guy who BQs, makes a FaceBook post and gets 400 likes. People actually like that local guy, so LRC types have to rain on his parade because he is an "attention-seeking, hobby jogger" or some crap. Same idea here.

Would be nice if there was an adult forum out there that covered running.

TheOhioState wrote:

Would be nice if there was an adult forum out there that covered running.

Yeah I think about this all the time.

A place to talk about running. No drug talk, no sexism, no perverts, no gender bias coddling.

Running, training, results, schedules, private messaging, watch lists, friends lists and so on, no advertisements, would be great.

Definitely:. wrote:

TheOhioState wrote:

Would be nice if there was an adult forum out there that covered running.

Yeah I think about this all the time.

A place to talk about running. No drug talk, no sexism, no perverts, no gender bias coddling.

Running, training, results, schedules, private messaging, watch lists, friends lists and so on, no advertisements, would be great.

Sounds like you and your special friend would have a good time at LetsJog.com. Why don't you get that set up so you can have your safe space and no one can hurt your feelings or disagree with you.

Call me when he breaks Matt Carpenter’s course record at Pike’s Peak

comedyrelief wrote:

First, most D1 athletes don't dedicate their lives to running. Most (if they are smart) are dedicating themselves to getting a career as a doctor, dentist, engineer, etc. as running careers are short and rare. Most prefer having a spouse, kids, house, etc. to becoming a running hermit. In terms of running, the talent level decreases the longer you get in distance. There are plenty of talented 1500 meter runners, 5000 meter runners, 10000 meter runners coming out of college each year that go pro in something other than running (not to mention scores of east African runners) that could easily be doing what Walmsley and Jornet are doing (they are nothing special in terms of talent, they are just competing in an obscure sport full of lonely white men) . Most people just choose to lead different lives, that doesn't make them better than us.

Similar to those who could be competitive in racewalking or curling in the US if they took it up ^^

The ghost of Ultras past wrote:

Call me when he breaks Matt Carpenter’s course record at Pike’s Peak

Matt Carpenter is the great example of a guy with a skill set that specifically made him so successful at high altitude running and running up mountains. You can try to bash ultrarunners as slow, and there are plenty of people who would for sure beat Matt on a flat road marathon, but how many do you think can run up Pike’s Peak faster than him? Guy was light as hell with a massive VO2 max, over 90. Just an aerobic machine.

The ghost of Ultras past wrote:

Call me when he breaks Matt Carpenter’s course record at Pike’s Peak

Call me when he breaks Matt Carpenter’s course record at Leadville