Vaz wrote:
Hi, his page says he's completed 44 ultras. I'm not calling anyone a liar.
http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getresultperson.php?runner=799840The link above on experience will show 80% of ultras done. New source for you detectives out there ?.
It says four not 44.
I've seen evidence of his few official races like Amsterdam, Paris, MdS and Race to the stones 100k.
What about the 308 marathons he claims, that he refuses to give details on and has no watch data?
Yazzy89 wrote:
https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/this-man-is-running-a-marathon-in-every-country"What’s your day job?
I make money out of motivational speaking now. I’ve done about 308 marathons myself and have done ultras and expeditions in the past."
I too asked him about where the 300 marathons were and he avoided the question several times.
You can tell a journalist anything, you think they checked he ran 308 marathons? He could have told them he was in the SAS and they'd have printed it
Yazzy89 wrote:
Vaz wrote:
Hi, his page says he's completed 44 ultras. I'm not calling anyone a liar.
http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getresultperson.php?runner=799840The link above on experience will show 80% of ultras done. New source for you detectives out there ?.
It says four not 44.
I've seen evidence of his few official races like Amsterdam, Paris, MdS and Race to the stones 100k.
What about the 308 marathons he claims, that he refuses to give details on and has no watch data?
Go to the bottom of page. It clearly says published by Nickbutterrunning etc etc ..,, 314 marathons, 44 ultra marathons.......
https://nickbutterrunning.com/2016/07/24/ireland-running-world-record-attempt-starts-28th-1100am-july/Spread-some-good wrote:
I know nick personally, he is nothing but a kind guy, wanting to inspire and explore. Brands and companies are supporting him because he is genuine, and he’s doing something that has never been done. I think everyone wasting their time on here hating and spreading negativity should put their trainers on and try and do something positive,
Maybe you should contact nick through his website, run with him, ask him about his mission, then come back with a genuine informed opinion.
I can vouch for him personally having met him lots, run with him several times, and raced with him too. but don’t feel the need to go through all of these pointless conversations and justify each point.
Great that he is getting lots of attention though! I’m sure you will want to check out his autobiography when he’s done a world first.
Just because he’s not running them in 2:10 each time, doesn’t mean it’s not an amazing thing.
What have you done to inspire people to run. To make running more interesting?
He’s not a cheat, just following a dream. He’s also invested massive amounts of his own money to this mission because he knows you only get one chance at living. I could go on. Please get behind him and pat him on the back for doing something different.
I love it when the friends and family start getting involved.
It's always the first sign that the scammer is starting to get nervous.
Vaz wrote:
Go to the bottom of page. It clearly says published by Nickbutterrunning etc etc ..,, 314 marathons, 44 ultra marathons.......
https://nickbutterrunning.com/2016/07/24/ireland-running-world-record-attempt-starts-28th-1100am-july/
So now he's claiming 314 marathons. He told the press 308.
He wrote this website and can make up any number he likes.
He's been asked where all these marathons were and evaded the question many times.
There is no evidence of these marathons and no Strava.
John Wallace has run 383 marathon races in 132 countries on his own dime over many years. Under 4 hours until almost age 70.
rnrrnr wrote:
He will end up like the feminist who wanted to prove that Muslims are peaceful people by hitchhiking to the Middle East:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca
Yeah, I really want to see this guy run in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria...
I wouldn't be surprised if one of those "religion of piece" guys would kidnap him or worse. Look what they did to James Foley.
What I find the most perverse thing about this whole thing that the donate button doesn't take you to Prostate cancer but to gofund me. And if you scrutinise the itinerary he seems to have picked the easiest luxurious holiday destinations in the world for the first year and highly likely when the money runs out he won't have to endure the sh*t scary war torn countries at the back end of 2019. Am I just being an old grumps about this but I just don't like the way it's funded. Deep down he just wants to be famous, you can tell with his constant world record attempts. But sadly for him he currently lacks the ability in comparison of top class ultra runners. He may improve as he's still young but has he got the mind set to train hard rather than lying to himself and everyone else.
Omar wrote:
What I find the most perverse thing about this whole thing that the donate button doesn't take you to Prostate cancer but to gofund me. And if you scrutinise the itinerary he seems to have picked the easiest luxurious holiday destinations in the world for the first year and highly likely when the money runs out he won't have to endure the sh*t scary war torn countries at the back end of 2019. Am I just being an old grumps about this but I just don't like the way it's funded. Deep down he just wants to be famous, you can tell with his constant world record attempts. But sadly for him he currently lacks the ability in comparison of top class ultra runners. He may improve as he's still young but has he got the mind set to train hard rather than lying to himself and everyone else.
Not to mention African logistics with visas (most of Africa requires visas for Brits) and unless he's got a team of fixers and multiple passports, it is going to be a nightmare. I still hold that my prediction is that he gets "injured" after he's done in South America and he'll have "raised 100k" and people will quote that and it'll end up being 70k, and 50k of that is of his operation costs and the charity gets a negligible amount. But whatever.
Spread-some-good wrote:
I know nick personally, he is nothing but a kind guy, wanting to inspire and explore. Brands and companies are supporting him because he is genuine, and he’s doing something that has never been done. I think everyone wasting their time on here hating and spreading negativity should put their trainers on and try and do something positive,
Maybe you should contact nick through his website, run with him, ask him about his mission, then come back with a genuine informed opinion.
I can vouch for him personally having met him lots, run with him several times, and raced with him too. but don’t feel the need to go through all of these pointless conversations and justify each point.
Great that he is getting lots of attention though! I’m sure you will want to check out his autobiography when he’s done a world first.
Just because he’s not running them in 2:10 each time, doesn’t mean it’s not an amazing thing.
What have you done to inspire people to run. To make running more interesting?
He’s not a cheat, just following a dream. He’s also invested massive amounts of his own money to this mission because he knows you only get one chance at living. I could go on. Please get behind him and pat him on the back for doing something different.
I'm a running coach in the UK not some
Please respond with some actual data & facts.
He says he has run over 300 marathons but there no evidence of him running even 40. Practically every race result is on the internet nowadays.
He have to be running at least 40 marathons a year. Even reading his blog it's clear he's not doing anything like that.
How can we trust someone who blogs they run the Paris Marathon in 3:04 even puts s pic if his Garmin showing that when the official results show 3:25. Other people have posted similar examples.
It's nothing to do with being a 2:10 runner. Nobody cares if he ran 3 hours or 3 1/2. It's about honestly & trust.
Are we supposed to trust him with our charity donations when we can't even trust his honesty on what times he has run.
what exactly is Nick doing to raise this £250,000?
he's a long way off at the moment and i think its going to require considerably more effort than just posting a link on his website.
He is starting his challenge today.
Is it going to loaded onto strava no mention of it on his site?
Someone here mentioned he has a strava account .
https://www.strava.com/athletes/26461093ukathleticscoach wrote:
He is starting his challenge today.
Is it going to loaded onto strava no mention of it on his site?
Someone here mentioned he has a strava account .
Thanks
For now I am prepared to believe that Nick is legit and his primary goal is to raise money for charity. And if he becomes famous for it and can earn a living selling his book and doing lecture tours then OK for him. I know there are a lot of people who will disagree with me , but that's another matter. For the purpose of the rest of this post let's assume it's legit.
My main concern is what is his overall strategy. The budget for this campaign must be astronomical, well into six figures. I would guess the visa costs alone are over a grand . The airfares are too scary to even think of. His goal of £250,000 seems low compared to the overall cost. Heck, the airfares could be more than that.
Even if he achieves his goal of £250,000 people may well think the return on investment is not worth it. Here in Canada there is a general backlash against charity stunts. "I need $5000 to cycle across Canada for charity" - No, but I will give $100 to charity if you volunteer to work at a homeless shelter for two months instead. Basically people want a real return for their investment and not that most of it has gone into hotel rooms and restaurant meals.
For Nick to avoid the freeloader stigma he would need to raise well over £1,000,000. A figure he is not going to achieve through clicks on the Donate Now button. I assume he is hoping his campaign will go viral and donations will flood in . In which case I'm not sure I would have recommended the itinerary he has posted. Canada and the USA are two wealthy English speaking countries with extensive media coverage. Doing then 1 and 2 is a bit of a missed opportunity. I would have recommended starting in Africa getting a stock of good photos and stories of dodging lions and dodging bullets and then impress the American media.
I know he does return to the US again and is there for five weeks in the Fall so maybe that is when he is hoping to get traction with the media. If I was part of his team I would see those five weeks as key. This visit splits his European phase however most of the wealthy countries, France, Germany , Italy are before the US visit whereas the poorer countries, Latvia, Moldova, Belarus, are afterwards. I would have recommended it to be the other way round.
Maybe I'm just over thinking all this. In an earlier post I was surprised at how unplanned his Toronto run was , heck starting in January in Canada makes one wonder at the depth of planning . This will be an interesting one to follow.
Spread-some-good wrote:
I know nick personally, he is nothing but a kind guy, wanting to inspire and explore.
Said about every grifter ever.
Of course he's a nice guy. That's the only way someone can pull this stuff off.
I kinda admire him.
I love running. I love travelling the world. Wish I had the chutzpah to ask people to pay me to travel the world and run.
It's not about the charity. If he cared about the charity and wanted a challenge, he could sleep for free on a friend's couch for two years, work two full-time jobs, and give all the money to charity.
As it is, a small fraction of all the money that passes through his hands over to years of prep, running, and then making books and speeches about it will go to the charity.
It's about having fun adventures, becoming famous and having people tell you how great you are, and making money without working. Can't knock that. Living the dream!
I haven't looked at the schedule, but someone pointed out it was front-loaded with luxurious, friendly locations, with the challenging bits at the end. If true, brilliant! If something falls through, or an injury happens, or he can't get into those places, even if he can't complete the 196 country thing he's already had a long time of adventure and money.
Eat it jealous haters. This guy has hacked the system and is living the dream!
living the dream! wrote:
It's not about the charity. If he cared about the charity and wanted a challenge, he could sleep for free on a friend's couch for two years, work two full-time jobs, and give all the money to charity.
It's never about the charity, it's about him as a brand and how he can leverage this into coaching or "motivational speaking" or books or whatever nonsense.
dirkd wrote:
John Wallace has run 383 marathon races in 132 countries on his own dime over many years. Under 4 hours until almost age 70.
http://johnmaddogwallace.com/
Yes, real marathon races and paid for himself.
Not 314 made up ones like Nick, and asking for thousands of dollars from the public.
A marathon is an official race, not your own run, and there's not even any evidence of his OWN "marathon" runs!
Attention seeker who wants to be a celebrity and on telly, getting a funded trip of a lifetime.
Report from first run he ran the second half on his own but I think the run is on Strava
his 2nd marathon is now on strava, in miami. this one took him 25 mins longer than the 1st - 5:04.
other than the fact that marathons are only marathons if they are organised races, the slower he gets, the less he can say he is "running the world". i mean, 11:36 average pace, he'll be walking them from start to finish by the end of the week.