List of Boost-ish TPU midsole running shoes. Whatcha got?

No kidding, it makes a big difference. I don't notice much difference in Mizuno's Eu4ic between cold and hot runs, but Under Armour's Charged foam feels much firmer in the cold and even in the first couple of miles of each run. Boost always feels the same, hot, cold, no fatigue of the midsole in long runs, etc.

Still, too soft for me.

Mizuno fanboy wrote:

No kidding, it makes a big difference. I don't notice much difference in Mizuno's Eu4ic between cold and hot runs, but Under Armour's Charged foam feels much firmer in the cold and even in the first couple of miles of each run. Boost always feels the same, hot, cold, no fatigue of the midsole in long runs, etc.

Still, too soft for me.

Try the Freedom :-)

Is the Freedom the only real Saucony Everrun / TPU offering?

I ask because my anecdotal evidence of running in the Guide 10s with an Everrun "topsole", i.e. wafer thin layer, is no major difference. Ran in a new pair this evening, felt great, but my 2nd pair with ~ 100 miles on the clock feel like whatever any EVA pair with 100 miles on them would feel like...

So seems like a marketing gimmick as far as the Everrun "topsole" goes. But it would be interesting to know which Saucony shoes are using it more substantially...

Freedom is full Everrun midsole, yes, not just a topsole.

Past that, read the thread ;-)

I have a pair of Freedom ISOs but I only use them to wear casually with jeans. They're white and too good looking.

I'm not sure I'd enjoy running in them. Too bouncy.

Curious if anyone here has thoughts and/or experiences on the New Balance 890 v.6. Apparently it has TPU strips under the forefoot/midfoot area.

Are strips of this material enough to make a noticeable difference? Or is it just a marketing thing? Either way, I'm fairly curious about these shoes as they're over an ounce lighter than my other ones, and they also come in widths.

The Triumph ISO 4 has an Everun midsole, not just a topsole.

keepgoing wrote:

Curious if anyone here has thoughts and/or experiences on the New Balance 890 v.6. Apparently it has TPU strips under the forefoot/midfoot area.

Are strips of this material enough to make a noticeable difference? Or is it just a marketing thing? Either way, I'm fairly curious about these shoes as they're over an ounce lighter than my other ones, and they also come in widths.

Those TPU strips act like a shank, not as cushioning. I guess they must give some snap back to the forefoot.

The Liberty ISO has a full Everrun midsole.

I own a pair of Hitogami 3s for track workouts and road races and I'm a big fan! U4ic is underrated. It lasts forever too.

Does anyone have thoughts on the Under Armour Charged Bandit 3?

kid from PA wrote:

Does anyone have thoughts on the Under Armour Charged Bandit 3?

The ride is simple, the upper is very accomodating in width and volume, but runs half size short. No heel slipage. The outsole is very durable. Very smooth transition.

Something about them reminds me of running in huarache sandals: a slab of foam underneath and the foot is free to do its thing.

If you like the Hitogami, I'd probably go with the Wave Shadow instead of the Bandit 3.

Yea, pay attention when Saucony markets their shoes with Everun topsole. It's just a strip under the insole, and not the full midsole.

I believe these are the Saucony shoes with Everun midsoles:

-Freedom ISO (lightweight trainer)

-Liberty ISO (lightweight stability trainer)

-Triumph ISO 4 (neutral trainer)

-Hurricane ISO 4 (stability trainer)

Isn't bounce what we are looking for in running shoes?

I did 10k tempo run in my Freedom ISO today. Ran only a few seconds slower than the 10k race that I did less than 3 weeks ago in different shoes. Maybe that could be the extra fitness I gained from some workouts, long runs, and the race I did this weekend, but almost meeting my 10k race time on a tempo run where I wasn't going all out is a pretty good day. I don't know how much is has to do with the shoes because my training pace has been good in any shoes I've been wearing.

keepgoing wrote:

Curious if anyone here has thoughts and/or experiences on the New Balance 890 v.6. Apparently it has TPU strips under the forefoot/midfoot area.

Are strips of this material enough to make a noticeable difference? Or is it just a marketing thing? Either way, I'm fairly curious about these shoes as they're over an ounce lighter than my other ones, and they also come in widths.

I was a wear tester for this shoe. I didn’t notice any real difference. It was too firm for my liking, like the v5 before and the 980 I used to wear. I’m more a Pegasus guy. Felt light though.

I heard from a little birdy the new Hanson race flat swapped the revlite for tpu bead sole like the boost. Should be a fun shoe.

vivalarepublica wrote:

Isn't bounce what we are looking for in running shoes?

I guess not me. Mostly what I want is a firm midsole with just enough cushioning to take the edge off. My feet and legs do the rest.

I'm not fast, though, so maybe faster folks would appreciate a bouncier shoe.

Mizuno fanboy wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

Isn't bounce what we are looking for in running shoes?

I guess not me. Mostly what I want is a firm midsole with just enough cushioning to take the edge off. My feet and legs do the rest.

I'm not fast, though, so maybe faster folks would appreciate a bouncier shoe.

We are opposites. What you described is what makes my feet hurt.

Supernova Glide 8s made my feet hurt sometimes under the forefoot. The Wave Rider 20s haven't so far.

Different strokes and all that.

Mizuno fanboy wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

Isn't bounce what we are looking for in running shoes?

I guess not me. Mostly what I want is a firm midsole with just enough cushioning to take the edge off.

Yep, username checks out.

Re: New Balance 890 and TPU strips. This is exactly what I was talking about in my post that was apparently too long for you to read. Many many shoes use the TPU in its hard plastic form for rigidity. It has been common for a long time and is miles away in properties from the TPU foam used in Boost, Everrun, etc.

The foam in the 890 is REVlite. It's a decently firm EVA. If you're familiar with the 1400 or 1500 from New Balance you'll know how it feels (they also have TPU shanks in the midsole for rigidity).

True. Isn't the Torsion unit in Adidas made of TPU? And I think Mizuno's Wave plate is Pebax.

NewBalanceSnitch wrote:

keepgoing wrote:

Curious if anyone here has thoughts and/or experiences on the New Balance 890 v.6. Apparently it has TPU strips under the forefoot/midfoot area.

Are strips of this material enough to make a noticeable difference? Or is it just a marketing thing? Either way, I'm fairly curious about these shoes as they're over an ounce lighter than my other ones, and they also come in widths.

I was a wear tester for this shoe. I didn’t notice any real difference. It was too firm for my liking, like the v5 before and the 980 I used to wear. I’m more a Pegasus guy. Felt light though.

I heard from a little birdy the new Hanson race flat swapped the revlite for tpu bead sole like the boost. Should be a fun shoe.

Awesome, thanks for the update. Sounds like a pass for me as many others are talking about the overall firmness and I like a teeny more squish.

NewBalanceSnitch wrote:

keepgoing wrote:

Curious if anyone here has thoughts and/or experiences on the New Balance 890 v.6. Apparently it has TPU strips under the forefoot/midfoot area.

Are strips of this material enough to make a noticeable difference? Or is it just a marketing thing? Either way, I'm fairly curious about these shoes as they're over an ounce lighter than my other ones, and they also come in widths.

I was a wear tester for this shoe. I didn’t notice any real difference. It was too firm for my liking, like the v5 before and the 980 I used to wear. I’m more a Pegasus guy. Felt light though.

I heard from a little birdy the new Hanson race flat swapped the revlite for tpu bead sole like the boost. Should be a fun shoe.

Will this be a brand new shoe offering from NB? Something along the lines of the Hanzo, maybe?