Breaking: Matthew Centrowitz has been scratched from the 2017 Bowerman Mile

LetsRun.com wrote:

Centro says he picked up "an untimely virus"

yeah the CHICKEN pox

buk buk buk

Oregon born wrote:

Just got home from Pre and Matthew was walking around Hayward Field all chipper and taking pictures with fans. Maybe it's a hidden...internal virus with no symptoms?

Which pretty much says it all. Probably on advice from his legal team.

Ok if he supposedly has a virus, then shouldn't he be at home resting instead of being around people? I certainly don't want my child to catch the virus.

Now I am reading that Salazar says it's a stress reaction. Why would they have different reasons??

Never mind. Someone posted article from last year.

malmo wrote:

Are you really that ignorant? Flu season is just when there are high incidences of it. The flu virus dosent disappear after winter. I get the flu almost every Summer like clockwork. Had it just two weeks ago.

Since when did this technique of flinging insults make people think it made their argument stronger somehow? I didn't say it is impossible to get the flu now, but it is very rare to get out of season. Also, I am combining that with my other point - you feel like absolute crap if you really have the flu, and you would NOT want to be out at an event. Furthermore, you would be a total douche to risk spreading this highly contagious disease to others like that. And also, how would he and only he be the one to get it from his training group? You pick it up from others, so who else has it? Here is a graphic on the flu rates, week by week, in North Dakota. You can see how rare a case would be this time of year.

malmo wrote:

No I don't get flu shots. Flu shots are for little girls and effeminate men. I'm neither.

Why are you imagining things? He said he's feeling under the weather. Why isn't that good enough for you?

Flu shots are also mandatory for certain professions, such as health care workers. The shot may significantly decrease your risk for catching the flu, so why do you insult it?

I don't know how to embed the picture (it's a screenshot) but Centro put on his Instagram story that USADA came to his door the day after he announced his withdrawal from Pre

malmo wrote:

No I don't get flu shots. Flu shots are for little girls and effeminate men. I'm neither.

Why are you imagining things? He said he's feeling under the weather. Why isn't that good enough for you?

Whether what Centro Jr. said is a reasonable excuse for scratching is dubious, and certainly open for debate, which is what this thread is all about. It's what you are saying that is ridiculous.

Quit hyperventilating.

You said it was very rare. I said that the flu can and does affect people year-round, which is a fact. The flu season is only 2 to 4 times more prevalent than the rest of the year. The reason why the flu season hits its peak during the winter is because that’s when people tend to stay indoors. Also that’s when school is in, creating an ideal medium for passing all kinds of viruses.

The peak of the flu season affects approx. 4% of the population in any given week. In general, the peak is approximately 2-3% for about 15 weeks. For most of the year the flu affects a steady 1% of the population, or about 1/3 to ½ of the average of the flu season. This is not “rare” when compared to the scale of the average during the flu season. (see the data in the link).

Yes I am correct, you can, and millions do, catch the flu year round.

FWIW flu shots are only about 50-60% effective -- about a coin flip. I can allow my body to build antibodies naturally, which has worked out for our species for millions of years.

OK, Malmo, "very rare" was overblowing it, but still, much less common.

Just wow... wrote:

OK, Malmo, "very rare" was overblowing it, but still, much less common.

That was my point from the beginning.

willis talkin' wrote:

calculo wrote:

no

one ran in 2 boycott games with later toxoplasmosis +ve

other ran in 2 full field games

not a sliver of comparison between the 2 guys finals

Actually it was between games, not later.

The fact that a guy like Nick Willis could medal in Makh's era tells us that Coe was in a more competitive era.

Walker was better than Willis and he would get crapped out the back in Coe's era.

This era is WAY better than Coe's era was. 4 guys going under 3:29 in one race would be a fantasy 30 years ago. No way Walker was better than Willis though. Sure, Walker won the Olympics in 76...but that was when a bunch of countries boycotted the games, and aside from that Willis has done everything Walker had done plus more. (Not saying Walker wasn't great, but let's be real here). Willis won 2 Olympic medals 8 years apart, the latter as a 33 year old. Willis has broken 3:30 twice, won commonwealth gold (11 years ago, something walker could never do).

In Walker's era, Tanzania had a world class track program. , no.

calculo wrote:

willis talkin' wrote:Actually it was between games, not later

eh ???

is this a joke ???

The fact that a guy like Nick Willis could medal in Makh's era tells us that Coe was in a more competitive era

this is worst joke here in decades !!!

coe in '80 final ran against no one in 1500 with faster pb

coupla weeks later, he was down to number 4 on all-time lists !!!

'80 1500 was most devalued & rubbish 1500 in history !!!

Walker was better than Willis and he would get crapped out the back in Coe's era

is this a joke ???

willis every bit as fast as walker

you not comprehend willis goes un-noticed by being swamped by truck-load of fast hungry africans ???

1982-83 were not Olympic years.

As for the rest? Blah Blah Blah as usual

I don't take flu shots because I am not a young child or a senior citizen and do not have a compromised immune system. And I realize that the effectiveness of the flu shot varies wildly every year. Herd immunity is a fact, but less significant in a constantly evolving virus. However, the fact that people have survived the flu naturally for human history does not mean that anyone shouldn't take a shot for it. The flu has killed millions at various points, such as at the end of WWI, and prior to modern medicine, longevity was far lower than it is today, mostly because a far higher total died prior to age 15, and those in their sixties tended to die of their first major ailment.

Ludd wrote:

How many sub 3:30s did Walker manage? Willis has done it twice, once more than Coe and a better pr than 3:29.77, I believe. Makhloufi has not competed yet and is one of the only big guys not in the race. Why?

Walker broke 3:50 a couple of times and Coe ran the last 800 of his PR alone.

Walker and Coe were both better than Willis.

Bad Wigins wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Centro says he picked up "an untimely virus"

yeah the CHICKEN pox

buk buk buk

+1 Looks like Dr. Wiggo made a remote diagnosis!

calculo wrote:

willis talkin' wrote:Actually it was between games, not later

eh ???

is this a joke ???

The fact that a guy like Nick Willis could medal in Makh's era tells us that Coe was in a more competitive era

this is worst joke here in decades !!!

coe in '80 final ran against no one in 1500 with faster pb

coupla weeks later, he was down to number 4 on all-time lists !!!

'80 1500 was most devalued & rubbish 1500 in history !!!

Ovett was in the '80 1500. At that time, he was the world record holder in the mile, had not lost a 1500m or a mile in three years, and had recently kicked Coe's ass over 800m.