L-carn is dosed in 100's mg to grams for nearly all indications. The manufacture recommends a max of 8mg/ml when injecting it. So 50ml is gonna probably be a sub therapeutic dose. He could be using concentrations higher than 8mg/ml but that's crazy dangerous because if it forms any sort of precipitate it'll kill you fast as it clogs all your capillaries
MORE FAKE NEWS.
Sunday times gotta use Mo's name to stay in business and pay the bills for their pathetic writers. Pathetic losers. Why not let Mo write personal articles on these journalists with slander and turn the tables. Give these jounalists a taste of their own pathetic medicine!! F the media!! FAKE NEWS
Seems to be a number of nitrogen quaternaries. If you go to a place where you can anticipate when the drug test would be, you could inject a range of large proteins that stimulate cell production at a lower dose as the hepatic and renal routes of production and elimination would be altered. If you know the volume of distribution and metabolic rates of your patient/athlete you can then tailor the cell stimulators to ensure legal level of hormones and progenitors with reasonable precision.
Out to a remote area give the protein on the first day at reduced dose with the metabolic blocker. Three weeks later no trace of the former, four weeks later race. Repeat.
No one in the UK cares about skinny runners, at best it is a side story to football news.
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Sunday times gotta use Mo's name to stay in business and pay the bills for their pathetic writers. Pathetic losers. Why not let Mo write personal articles on these journalists with slander and turn the tables. Give these jounalists a taste of their own pathetic medicine!! F the media!! FAKE NEWS
L-Carnatine???? Haha haha. I buy it at Rite Aid off the shelf. Been using it since I read about it in Jim Fixx's, Complete Book Of Running, in 1977!
Also how cucked in the Sunday Times/British press??? What a headline...Oh our sweet innocent black Somolian'Brit' may have been endangered by the evil sort of white coach. Good grief, meanwhile Moe runs off on his own and trains with some Highly suspicious groups who are probably doing a lot more than L-Carn! This investigation if anything clears the Oregon Project of any real wrong doing.
It sounds like the Nike employees on the west coast are awake. Do you get overtime pay for posting on a Sunday?
So it's ok for the Russians to hack the NOP but not the Democrats?
I agree that this is just the British Press out to get clicks and smear an American company (Nike) and athlete/coach (Salazar). I think Salazar represents the best things about the US. Nothing makes me happier than to sit around the fireplace at Christmas time and rub andro gel on my children. Then we exchange gifts--an inhaler makes a nice stocking stuffer, but in my family we use hollowed out books instead of stockings. I think I saw that on Martha Stewart once. It's fun, and literary too!
Whether or not people "need" prescription drugs in the view of some "doctor" is beside the point. Whose thyroid and T levels don't deserve a little pick-me-up every now and then? Besides, Dr. Mhyre is dead so you can't ask him if "prednisone and testosterone medication" means what it says. Anyway, you can tell the UK papers are crafty schemers from those demented crosswords. Give me USA Today anytime.
POM
Tomato de la tron wrote:
https://twitter.com/davidcollinsst/status/835590902982795264Doesn't sound good
Editor's note: The article is out but behind a paywall
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coach-alberto-salazar-accused-of-endangering-mo-farah-with-drugs-p9njschrb?CMP=Sprkr-_-3-_-thesundaytimes-_-News-_-Unspecified-_-Statement-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER&linkId=34891873Full LRC recap of article and what we think is important here
Man, the powers that be are pulling out all the stops to keep the true story about the systematic doping in Kenya and Ethiopia and Cuba and other places on the back burner. We need a few more stories about Russians to toss into the mix too, maybe some stories about baseball player or two in the US to help out.
What ever happened to Aden? Oh, that's right. Look the other way.
CGeorgeRun wrote:
The state medical board should be able to view patient medical records to determine if doctors' treatments were in violation of state rules and regulations. I am GUESSING that this is Texas based on the issues surrounding the Houston doctor from this past summer. But I do not have access to the London newspaper articles and have not read the leaked documents either. So that is just a guess.
Regardless - the state medical board investigating any of its licensed doctors will not be obligated to turn any patient medical records over to USADA and in fact, should probably be obligated to keep the patient records confidential. Again, I do not know which state medical board is performing the investigation, but I would imagine that it will be very difficult for USADA to gain access to these records through a back door created by a medical board's investigation.
With the Lance Armstrong investigation, USADA was able to gain a mountain of documents through a back door because they were either part of a public record or turned over voluntarily to USADA.
State medical boards barely investigate anybody and the rules and regulations on treatment are pretty expansive.
When they do investigate somebody it is almost surely in response to complaints about deaths and serious injuries. The only other investigative body would probably be in response to unusual prescribing patterns (but this is going to be more than a few athletes to raise flags).
I don't think you can count on a medical board to carry USADA's water for them on this one.
Tldr. What alberto did was legal because l Caritine is legal. But it is almost certainly illegal. But it's basically legal so who cares
Snensixis wrote:
But it's basically legal so who cares
Travis Tygart head honcho at the USADA cares. That you do not care has no value.
vebjørn wrote:
but you are ok with russia and aden group
When did I mention Russia or Aden? Anyone who has read my posts knows I want Dibaba kicked out of the sport, her and Aden are an utter disgrace.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
vebjørn wrote:but you are ok with russia and aden group
When did I mention Russia or Aden? Anyone who has read my posts knows I want Dibaba kicked out of the sport, her and Aden are an utter disgrace.
So the list is:
-androgel
-thyroid meds
-l-carnitine injections
-IV Vitamin D
-a statement by AlSal that you can not be in the top 5 in the world with epo.
anacondarunner wrote:
Does anyone have a link to the full USADA report released by Fancy Bears?
Pretty tame stuff if you ask me! With the number of runners getting away with using EPO, it's hard to care much about the Oregon Project using L Carnitine.
Exactly. Oh but he injected it. Big deal it's still a supplement and like iron only enhances performance if you are low on it.
Hotels full of EPO and we are worried about this.
Lance was using steroids and EPO this almost proves Salazar was not involved in that!
Wouldn't surprise me if Mo was on EPO but if he is doping it's not this. Why would anyone dope if you could just take a legal supppliment. Things work quicker if you inject they still work if you swallow them.
Are the Williams sisters getting this much publicity from their bears hack. It's B's and reveals nothing knew. Wiggy did worse with steroids & they did fa.
ukathleticcoach wrote:
Exactly. Oh but he injected it. Big deal it's still a supplement and like iron only enhances performance if you are low on it.
Low on it because something else is causing the low.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:When did I mention Russia or Aden? Anyone who has read my posts knows I want Dibaba kicked out of the sport, her and Aden are an utter disgrace.
So the list is:
-androgel
-thyroid meds
-l-carnitine injections
-IV Vitamin D
-a statement by AlSal that you can not be in the top 5 in the world with epo.
Add:
- a missed test because couldn't hear doorbell
- multiple episodes of passing out: post race, post workout in park city, etc
- working with Aden
- meteoric rise after struggling as a pro for years: 4 oly golds, Coe's record beaten (3:28)...coincides with move to Salazar/oregon
- miraculous kick
- elite from 1500m to marathon
- quick runaway from Birmingham outdoor after Salazar scandal
- "forgets" getting injections
- in the running as Olympic medalist and household name in uk as potential drug positive according to Russians
IF mo is a doper, the only way it will ever come out will be as a leak or hack. Can you imagine how angry that wife of his would be if all her money were stripped away? Wow. Just wow.
#tldr
basically what ALSAL did was illegal, but its also legal so this is not really a big deal, but its basically illegal, but also legal so nothing will happen.