MIAC Track 2017

The hardest thing about sub four is getting in the right race. Not much in the Midwest in the way of races that are paced and have the right competition--good but not out of your league--for a 4:01-2 guy to break through for 3:59. Coffey would need the stars to align, besides that he has only run a 4:03-4 equivalent in a 1500 in which he just rode behind Jake and Paul the whole distance. There's a lot of improvement to occur, then some luck.

ShittySpielberg back with more shameless self-promotion. No but seriously, here's the vid I got of Coffey's mile last Friday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbjVz6xgvZg

You can clearly see how smooth he looked the whole time, and running it solo makes it all the more impressive. He clearly has the toughness to throw down a fast time regardless of competitors, & I think that will give him an advantage when the time comes to gun for sub-4.

Dang..That was smooth. I couldn't tell with splits but it looked really even throughout.

I don't know what kind of training or base they have at this point, but it is impressive nonetheless. I hope he has success on the national level this season, step out of the shadows of his predecessors.

All of you MIAC jokers are kidding about Joe Coffey going sub-4 right? He ran 4:10. That next 11 sec down to sub 4 is an incredible amount of time. He would have to PR by 10 seconds in the indoor mile, or 4 seconds if you convert is 1500m to break 4min.... I'd say 4:06-08 is more likely, Coffey normally comes into a season about as fast as he is going to be at the end of the season.

Benjamins wrote:

All of you MIAC jokers are kidding about Joe Coffey going sub-4 right? He ran 4:10. That next 11 sec down to sub 4 is an incredible amount of time. He would have to PR by 10 seconds in the indoor mile, or 4 seconds if you convert is 1500m to break 4min.... I'd say 4:06-08 is more likely, Coffey normally comes into a season about as fast as he is going to be at the end of the season.

^^^^

Subtract 0-3 sec for no pacers, 0-2 more for being indoor, 0-2 more for being FLAT indoor, 0-2 more for being at the beginning of the year, 0-2 more for ideal racing weight, 0-2 more for training and not tapering, and 0-4 for the strength training he hasn't done but will do before outdoor is over, and finally 0-1 for pumping his arms next time.

3:59 outdoors with a fast pacer, more conditioning, and better conditions isn't that crazy.

Subtract 0-3 sec for no pacers, 0-2 more for being indoor, 0-2 more for being FLAT indoor, 0-2 more for being at the beginning of the year, 0-2 more for ideal racing weight, 0-2 more for training and not tapering, and 0-4 for the strength training he hasn't done but will do before outdoor is over, and finally 0-1 for pumping his arms next time.

3:59 outdoors with a fast pacer, more conditioning, and better conditions isn't that crazy.[/quote]

Is he a 1:52 guy? If he isn't there is no way he can be around 4:00. I think he is a 1:54 man with good strength as well, so we will see. However. 4:05-4:08 would be my guess by March.

Durr Hurr he's 10 seconds off! wrote:

Subtract 0-3 sec for no pacers, 0-2 more for being indoor, 0-2 more for being FLAT indoor, 0-2 more for being at the beginning of the year, 0-2 more for ideal racing weight, 0-2 more for training and not tapering, and 0-4 for the strength training he hasn't done but will do before outdoor is over, and finally 0-1 for pumping his arms next time.

3:59 outdoors with a fast pacer, more conditioning, and better conditions isn't that crazy.

Yeah lets throw in extra 5 seconds off when he shaves that mop off his head for less "wind resistance". Please MIAC fanboy, we'll see when the times come. You can't just assume & shave time off for the aforementioned reasons, everyones different and react different to certain environments. He could have ALL those things mentioned, a nice banked track, great pacing, and being tapered, and run a 4:09 lol

The only thing you can do is see where hes at right now, look at what hes done in the past, and make a viable assumption that way. Hes good for 4:06.

Talk about something more realistic please will ya

Coffey's top mile time last year was his opener. I'd say 3:45 outdoor is conceivable. This sub-4 bs sets him up for disaster. He could run 4:08 and still win a national title, which would be among the best performances by a MIAC runner in the last quarter century.

good troll

Soooo, Donson was the MIAC athlete of the week despite getting third and running 7 seconds slower than Coffey... Why?...

Just because he raced at a D1 meet doesn't mean his performance is any better. Plus, he lost to two freshman.

I personally don't get it. Granted, I didn't see the race and for all I know he split something like a 1:56 last 800m or something, but no one has made mention of that as of yet, so I cannot take that in to account.

I also wished that Connor O'Neill's (St. Thomas) performance could have been highlighted. Pole vaulting 16 feet in your first meet is pretty damn impressive. Though, perhaps not as impressive as Travis' shot put mark. So that makes sense.

But my main point remains.

Well, you see, your coach actually has to vote for you to be athlete of the week. Phil simply has no cares to give.

Anyone have heat sheets for Carleton Triangular this evening?

Tommie meet doesn't seem too scintillating. Might be good to see the 800 guys give it another go. Slow pace from last race doesn't tell us much. Ditto for Macalester Meet.

http://stthomastrack.com/resources/Documents/2017/Meets/17-St-Thomas-Invite-PROGRAM.pdf

There were a couple of notable performances at Macalester's Kilt classic. Specifically Klamm's solo 600m performance and Fredrickson's solo 800m performance. I'm not sure where Kyle Fredrickson came from, but with a 1:55 debut he might be a decent challenger for the 800 come conference time. Other than that there wasn't any outstanding performances. Sandberg and Haugen led the 1000m together with a decent time. The mile was below par and in the 3k Dammann, Harper, and Jones seemed to run an average beginning of the season race (9:13ish).

http://athletics.macalester.edu/documents/2017/1/20//kilt_2017_results_m.pdf

Fredrickson ran that time solo...

That is pretty impressive, especially given that it was a big PR for him...

Things I took away from looking at the results were that Gustavus as a whole team looks to be pretty fit early on. Let's hope that they continue to build on this and not taper off like they did in cross.

Bethel looks like a long sprint nightmare with how many 200m-600m athletes they have. They had two separate relays go about 3:25 in the 4x400m. That is crazy.

So...who is Kyle Frederickson?

Also, watch out for unknown bub Alec Kirtley in the mile. Could be top 4-5 at Conference.

Nice to hear input from the St. Olaf jv bubs.

That 1k must have been really fun to watch with the Oles and Donson going at it.

3k was really impressive with all of the Oles showcasing their fitness.