Is there any clean athlete? Please name one

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

So you're saying that highschoolers are also doping? And college kids?

Are you? Oh no you are on LR instead of training.

failed football coach wrote:

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

So you're saying that highschoolers are also doping? And college kids?

Plenty of high school kids take steroids. America has a "do whatever it takes to win" culture. It's not called cheating, it's called getting an edge. Just look at football, and although doping in track likely is not on the same scale as football, it's there. Sports in America is a huge thing and kids are getting groomed to be professional athletes from the day they can start walking and dribbling a ball. The parents and coaches a lot of times will also do whatever it takes to get the athlete more attention from scouts, and what better way to stand out among the mere mortals than put some top grade chemicals in your body.

Thank you! I think people are on it. I got a few good names and some people open to discuss.

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

So you're saying that highschoolers are also doping? And college kids?

Yes.

And Master's runners and amateur cyclists trying to go from cat 4 to cat 3, and bodybuilders, etc. I only say this because I encountered a lot of people in running who were perfectly comfortable cheating. I have been offered drugs in the gym on several occasions and know a couple of people who are in "natural" categories but use juice.

Personally, I might have a more restrictive view of what's doping and what isn't. I think if you go out and get a low T prescription form your doctor and you know in your heart of hearts that you don't really need it, then that's doping. I also think that people who use albuterol inhalers when they don't really need them are cheaters.

Olympic Truth wrote:

The Logician wrote:

Another prediction of the "All Olympic Sprinters are dumb" theory is observed. The theory grows stronger.

I was talking to YOU at the drive thru

I knew exactly what you meant before I even finished reading what you wrote. Another prediction of the "All Olympic Sprinters are dumb" theory is observed. The theory grows stronger.

I'm rolling over here. This is great. You have a career in comedy, OTruth. Don't stop. Please. Spend all night on here.

Olympic Truth wrote:

failed football coach wrote:

Plenty of high school kids take steroids. America has a "do whatever it takes to win" culture. It's not called cheating, it's called getting an edge. Just look at football, and although doping in track likely is not on the same scale as football, it's there. Sports in America is a huge thing and kids are getting groomed to be professional athletes from the day they can start walking and dribbling a ball. The parents and coaches a lot of times will also do whatever it takes to get the athlete more attention from scouts, and what better way to stand out among the mere mortals than put some top grade chemicals in your body.

Thank you! I think people are on it. I got a few good names and some people open to discuss.

You're probably one of the few sensible people on this forum. I still don't get what's with the fake crusade on supposed dopers and clean athletes. Only difference is getting caught and getting away with it. Don't get me wrong, I don't care if athletes use it, if anything, people with a lot of stake and investments in sports likely want the athletes to use as much enhancement as possible, what else is going to break records and create freakish athletic feats? People don't pay money to go see somewhat athletic average joes play a sport, they want to see the biggest, strongest, fastest freaks of nature out there. Behind every good athlete there is an even BETTER chemist. Lot's of smart guys working in labs don't make a lot of money, and you bet they would jump at the chance to synthesize some top quality drugs, undetectable, crazy potent, and out of the system in just a few hours. When there's money there's going to be corruption and lots of it. Why else do athletes do commercials for freaking companies like Gatorade and Mcdonalds? Sugar water and processed high fat junk food. I'm sure the anti doping crusaders here would agree that stuff is terrible for athletes yet the best athletes in the world are paid and sponsored by these companies, because they get paid enough, and when you get paid enough, and when enough is at stake, you shut up and do your "job". They can't speak out the truth about doping because their entire career will be ruined and they will get black balled for life.

Olympic Truth wrote:

I'm accusing EVERY SINGLE elite athlete.

Most people believe this already.

Did you dope?

Olympic Truth wrote:

I'm serious. Pick from the finals of any race 100-1500.

I know most of the name guys, and they are all dirty.

100- ALL DIRTY- pick a semi finalist

200 same

400 same

800- open

1500 1st thru 5th dirty- after that open

Deca & Hep-all medalist dirty

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"I *know* most of the name guys, and they are all dirty"

Please.

Who is this clown? I haven't been following his trolling. Does he have a name (since he is a famous Olympian who knows all the best T&F athletes and who hangs out with Michael Phelps) ? I mean, he's got to be very famous, right? So......who is our Olympic insider?

People who believe most professional athletes don't take PEDs likely believe Hilary Clinton is very honest.

Sorry I run at 5:30 every morning lol

Just wanted to know, I guess I better stop getting better though because I'll be accused of using drugs in a year or two as well

Hold on, buddy. That's not how doping works. You don't just juice up and then take some days off to watch football. You juice up and then hit the workouts hard, harder than what would normally be possible.

Pro dopers might be cheaters, but they're not lazy.

Right back at you I knew what you were doing. But I feel sorry for you so I'm trying not to laugh at you and be more mature. But I get sucked it by the weirdness of you.

butt velvetor wrote:

Olympic Truth wrote:

I'm accusing EVERY SINGLE elite athlete.

Most people believe this already.

Did you dope?

No i really wasn't that good.

Olympic Truth you are a hero. But it's not just the athletes that are dirty, but the officials too, particuarly every olympics when they use anti-doping to force some off the sauce so others still on the sauce can win on the lucrative big stage. They are thoroughly corrupt and should all end up sharing a prison cell with Diack.

To answer your question, that girl who Abby D'Agostino helped up might have been clean.

I believe Tyson Gay is clean now. He learned his lesson and took it pretty hard when he got pinched.

Olympic Truth wrote:

Right back at you I knew what you were doing. But I feel sorry for you so I'm trying not to laugh at you and be more mature. But I get sucked it by the weirdness of you.

I understand logic is weird to you. You get sucked into it because somewhere deep in your clouded mind, you recognize something that can free you and clear delusions. Finally! There's hope!

All elites dope. The only exception is Rudisha.

I think he was being sarcastic in regards to pinning steroids versus hitting the workouts hard. Of course pro athletes train hard, and if something as simple and quick as sticking a needle in your body once or twice a week can tremendously improve every aspect of your athletic career, why not do it?

A professional athlete not using steroids is like a bodybuilder who wants to compete at a high level without steroids. Same thing more or less. Natural bodybuilding as people in the circle know it as, is a joke. It doesn't exist and natural athletics doesn't exist either except for the weekend warriors and hobby joggers.

All this talk about elite athletes being dirty, and

Well it's just talk.

The Logician wrote:

Olympic Truth wrote:

Right back at you I knew what you were doing. But I feel sorry for you so I'm trying not to laugh at you and be more mature. But I get sucked it by the weirdness of you.

I understand logic is weird to you. You get sucked into it because somewhere deep in your clouded mind, you recognize something that can free you and clear delusions. Finally! There's hope!

All elites dope. The only exception is Rudisha.

Again with the put downs. That's what is weird. I have money, career, family, education. So I'm good with logic. You don't have logic. A logical person would think Rudisha is using. We think differently, and I try not to put someone else down if they disagree with me. I don't think do that and you seem determined to put me and others down. So.. bye Felicia

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Olympic Truth wrote:

I'm serious. Pick from the finals of any race 100-1500.

I know most of the name guys, and they are all dirty.

100- ALL DIRTY- pick a semi finalist

200 same

400 same

800- open

1500 1st thru 5th dirty- after that open

Deca & Hep-all medalist dirty

.

"I *know* most of the name guys, and they are all dirty"

Please.

Who is this clown? I haven't been following his trolling. Does he have a name (since he is a famous Olympian who knows all the best T&F athletes and who hangs out with Michael Phelps) ? I mean, he's got to be very famous, right? So......who is our Olympic insider?

I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.

I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first