USA goes home DEVASTATED in the 4X100. Beaten by Japan and then DQd. Will Michell be fired?

Update:

h) a Russian (former) doper who had a previous urine doping test result with an 8.5:1 Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio (maximum limit for T/E ratio is a 4:1 ratio).

http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/wp-content/slideshow/2013/07/darya-klishina-hot-pictures/medium/Darya-Klishina-FB23.jpg

That is weird. She does not look like a man.

Looks and testosterone levels can be deceiving.

Watcher. wrote:

I can't, for the life of me understand how these world class athletes just can't get it right?? The rest of the world has no problems. The women's team had no problems. This is ridiculous!

"the women's team had no problems"???

Uhhmmm .... maybe you missed that race with only one team in it?

wtfunny wrote:

Watcher. wrote:

I can't, for the life of me understand how these world class athletes just can't get it right?? The rest of the world has no problems. The women's team had no problems. This is ridiculous!

"the women's team had no problems"???

Uhhmmm .... maybe you missed that race with only one team in it?

Felix's arm was hit by the Brasilian in her lane, duh.

Dennis Mitchell will be replacing Tom Hammond in the NBC broadcast booth effective in 2017.

Peacock wrote:

Dennis Mitchell will be replacing Tom Hammond in the NBC broadcast booth effective in 2017.

You did not read my post correctly.

I said that it had to be today…not 2017.

Dennis Mitchell has free time now. The US RELAY Debacleâ„¢ is done... for today.

This means that Dennis Mitchell could replace Tom Hammond today!

It is a win-win.

Bob Schul Country wrote:

USA just lost to Japan in the 4x1.

Your line up is ran in a really stupid order, and your handoffs sucked.

A HS sprint coach could of done a better job

Japan! What? JAPAN! A new all time low!!! JAPAN!

It's so embarrassing.

They need to find a pool of 6-8 guys -- very terrific fast guys, but guys that probably wouldn't be top 4-5 at the trials. Maybe college guys. Those guys are a relay pool, and all they do is train for the relay. Start working them early, not just a few weeks. They're not going to run in the individual events and there's no focus on that. The relay pool produces the best four guys who can work together, has a couple alternates, and away they go.

IT,

Good sensible solution. The current relay team format has clearly failed. It is no longer just a put together the fastest guys game.

Igy

early pass wrote:

Rodgers to Gatlin was early. IAAF rule 170.7.

The baton shall be passed within the takeover zone. The passing of the baton commences when it is first touched by the receiving athlete and is completed the moment it is in the hand of only the receiving athlete. In relation to the takeover zone, it is only the position of the baton which is decisive. Passing of the baton outside the takeover zone shall result in disqualification.

Gatlin touched the baton, which initiates the pass, prior to entering the zone.

This is exactly what happened, and what is more concerning is the fact that at least one of the relay runners, based on tweets last night, genuinely seems to believe the rule is that the exchange just has to be completed in the zone.

I don't even put that on the athletes, that's 100% on the coach and USATF who hired him. Does Dennis Mitchell believe the pass can start before the zone? Either he understood the rule incorrectly and told the athletes wrong, or he just assumed everyone knew it and failed to make sure everyone was crystal clear on every rule on the biggest stage possible...

idiot coach wrote:

Forget the DQ, there is a much bigger issue here ... we just lost to Japan in something that does not involve making sushi, doing math, building cars / subway systems, or gaming.

The order was retarded. We had our 100m silver medalist (who cares if he is clean or dirty) running 2nd and some kid who looks like he is 16 years old and on the JV sprints team anchoring against the greatest sprinter ever??? Who does that?

Japan beat us in 2012 (4th) and 2008 (3rd).

They do one thing that we haven't done well since 2000...GET THE GD M'FN STICK AROUND THE TRACK!

I remember when the 4x100m was an automatic gold.

Alan

Bettingfool wrote:

Can we pay $11,000 to Brazil to get the dq lifted?

LOL, Yes, The American way of doing 'business'

You can't be DQ'ed for stepping on the line in a straight race, provided you don't impede another runner. There is no advantage to be gained by so doing.

I agree and they should get a stipend so they don't have to run so much early in the year. Get a sponsor for the sprint team so they won't burn out and have these nagging injuries later in the year. The rest of the world has caught up with bringing along sprint talent and don't usually have to contend with the lure of King Football. Start with Norman and the Lyles Brothers. Although USC has a good program -Norman should be brought along slowly so he can peak next Worlds when Jamaica should be ripe for the taking. It's very difficult to peak for three championships in a year (NCAA,US Trials and Worlds).

A thousand NFL scouts must have looks at these sub 10 guys years ago and found them to be too goddamn incompetent to catch a ball or run a route. That's how they ended up as sprinters who can't complete a relay.

Mitchell was hired by Stephanie to help the American sprinters dope better. He failed and any HS coach could teach passes better than that.

rjm33 wrote:

3) The solution is for Tom Hammond to replace Dennis Mitchell as US relay coach.

i chuckled

The Unfortunate Truth wrote:

A thousand NFL scouts must have looks at these sub 10 guys years ago and found them to be too goddamn incompetent to catch a ball or run a route. That's how they ended up as sprinters who can't complete a relay.

Yes.

There was one guy I remember very well…who could catch a ball…and run.

His name was Bob Hayes.

I think Bob Hayes could of given Mr. Bolt some real competition.

Oh yea.

Bob Hayes gets the handoff in last place…and then runs 100m in 8.5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPDfT0ucUfc

http://speedendurance.com/2009/03/25/bob-hayes-1964-olympic-4x100m-relay-in-hd-video/

Oh yea.

sjc is referring to their go marks. There is no way 2 sub 10sec 100m runners should be passing the baton in 10m. The main points with good exchanges are maintaining your velocity thru the zone, proper lane position, stable target, silent exchanges, incoming runner running thru the zone, keep the baton in the middle of the track. Many ways to practice and improve, like using a freelap system or just timing you exchanges at various points of the season and making adjustments. They need an experienced coach in charge to select a pool of 6-8 sprinters age 21-25 and spend some time (4-5x a year) at various points of the year and work with them. This group should be running at Penn relays, World relay championships, and 1-2 other relay meets a year. USATF should be responsible to assist with providing some scientific analysis. What is the Olympic training center for? How much development does USATF provide to Junior athletes, and post collegiate athletes? sjc is correct on many points. Gaitlin has shown 2x the he is confused by the exchange zone markings, Gay has shown 2x that he has trouble holding the inside lane position coming out of the turn. Does Dennis Mitchell not have time to review some video and emphasis what corrections need to be made?