bay area jogger kicks and kills off-leash dog

Hill Stomper wrote:

Getting practical: Carry a sturdy whip antenna with some sort of grip tape. Use it only when you need it.

Need to swing it with a purpose once a month. Glad I have it all the time.

What kind of antenna, and how do you use it, i.e. do you hit the dogs, and does the antenna bend out of shape when you do?

What about pit bulls; does it drive them away too?

okfine wrote:

I would have kicked it dead also PUT YOUR FINGING DOGS ON A LEASH im not gonna get injured by a dog bite cause of a lazy f___k owner cant put the leash on...

Has nothing to do with being lazy. As soon as I get into a wooded trail I take my dog off the leash so he can run. I'm guessing he doesn't like being on a leash anymore than you like the one your chubby wives have you guys on. My dog has been trained to follow commands and certainly is trained to ignore and not harm strangers. Any yahoo running through the forest has a problem with that he can kick rocks and find a new forest. Only had a couple people complain because they are scared of dogs and I told them the same thing. Simple as that. You guys need to get over yourselves and stop being uptight douches about a DOG.

krispy kremlin wrote:

Let me preface this by saying I'm a lifetime dog owner.

But I can't say I don't fantasize about taking the precision of midfielder's strike compounded by years of running-developed quadricep strength and more or less beheading an off-leash dog that tries to bite me while its owner shouts "oh don't worry, he's friendly".

Followed by "He's never bit anyone before."

You get bit by a dog, you gotta get tested for rabies.

I was attacked by a pack of 5 dogs once, bit by one.

On my return trip they tried it again, and got greeted by handfuls of rocks.

They never chased me again.

Leash laws exist for a reason.

I got bit by a dog once while running on a trail - bit pretty bad, needed stitches in my calf. The dog was off-leash and the owner had the gall to say, "Oh he didn't bite you hard!" And all the while the blood was flowing from my calf. I insisted on getting his name/address and took a picture of the dog (off the leash), my calf, and the owner with my cell (good idea to run with your cell zipped in your pocket). Took him to small claims court and got the full $5000 which was the max at the time. My calf isn't the only thing that was scarred -- I don't care if it is a tiny poodle coming at me -- I will automatically kick or throw rocks or something. I used to like dogs but now I'm very wary of them.

All you guys saying the jogger overreacted, used too much force, it was just a pug, etc. You don't know what this guy may have experienced. He may have been bitten in the past or have seen someone get bitten. It was a pretty freaky thing for me and I probably would have done the same thing as he did.

Man your stupid dog comes at me, it will be kicked. You come up me bro we will throw down! So thats why keep your stupid dogs on leash or well trained .. you f*$ shit head!

been there before wrote:

The real story here is how much of a pvssy the owner of the dog is. Sounds they didn't do anything. Someone tried to kick in the direction of my dog once they got a bloody nose and a warning. If you're scared of dogs don't run on trails where dogs are frequently running. If you choose to do so I reserve the right to swing my fists in your direction if you abuse something that isnt yours.

we used to try and get off-leash dogs to come on runs with us too. It got pretty comical some times.

I love dogs, but I did have to kick one. I was running by a house and the owner was trying to get in the front door, the dog was going nuts and pushed past the owner and ran straight at me. Having been in this situation before, I stopped and let the dog approach me as I had done a million times before on roads, trails, parks. When it comes to dogs, be the leader of the pack, be the alpha. Put a hand out and let the dog sniff it and know you are in control. Confidence.

This time though the dog didn't slow down, and the owner, very audibly said "Oh no". Which to me means this dog has been a bit of a problem and had a history of biting. So...I backed up into the street, let the dog come off the owners property, and kicked it square in the nose. It yelped, laid down and started pawing at its snout. Owner came over, angry at first, but when he realized I was cool and had done everyone there a favor he said "thanks, it won't happen again"

A Duck wrote:

krispy kremlin wrote:

Let me preface this by saying I'm a lifetime dog owner.

But I can't say I don't fantasize about taking the precision of midfielder's strike compounded by years of running-developed quadricep strength and more or less beheading an off-leash dog that tries to bite me while its owner shouts "oh don't worry, he's friendly".

Followed by "He's never bit anyone before."

You get bit by a dog, you gotta get tested for rabies.

I was attacked by a pack of 5 dogs once, bit by one.

On my return trip they tried it again, and got greeted by handfuls of rocks.

They never chased me again.

Leash laws exist for a reason.

a guy speeding in a car says that he has never hit anyone with his car. speeding laws exist for a reason.... how many times a day do you encounter a car speeding? should we throw rocks at every car that speeds? What is more dangerous to a runner? A speeding car or a dog off leash?

When I was 11, I was taken down from behind and bitten severely in the calf and quad by my next door neighbor's dog. This was a dog that had been nothing but friendly to me and everyone as long as I had known it. I was good friends with a boy my age who lived in the house so I had reason to be there frequently and play with the dog. It was a nice easy-going dog. Why it silently and viciously attacked me from behind that day, without bark or warning, was something no one could figure out. I received stitches and tetanus shots and I never trusted any dog again. Skip ahead to college my soph year, I am running with some teammates on my college team and a small yappy dog comes barking across the lawn toward me. The owner yells from the porch, "don't worry, he won't bite" and the little yapper runs right up to me and clamps on the back of my heel. I shake him off, he comes back at me, and I kick him as hard as I can in the mouth. Went yelping off to his owner, who then called both the local HS and my coach at the University I attended to report a runner on a team had viciously kicked her dog. I readily admitted to my coach that I did it, and would do it again if her dog or another dog did what that one did. My teammates backed up what had actually happened and it was a non-issue going forward. I don't know the details behind the incident that happened in San Francisco, but dog-kicking incidents often have back-stories that are worth considering before labeling anyone a douchebag or a hero.

Hayduke wrote:

a guy speeding in a car says that he has never hit anyone with his car. speeding laws exist for a reason.... how many times a day do you encounter a car speeding? should we throw rocks at every car that speeds? What is more dangerous to a runner? A speeding car or a dog off leash?

So if a speeding car is coming at you, you won't do something to protect yourself, like swerve or try to get out of the way? What an idiotic comparison.

What a jerk you are wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

a guy speeding in a car says that he has never hit anyone with his car. speeding laws exist for a reason.... how many times a day do you encounter a car speeding? should we throw rocks at every car that speeds? What is more dangerous to a runner? A speeding car or a dog off leash?

So if a speeding car is coming at you, you won't do something to protect yourself, like swerve or try to get out of the way? What an idiotic comparison.

yep swerve or get out of the way.... not just stand there and wait for the dog to bite me, or attact the dog before it gets close to me. So yes that is what i would do in a situation with a dog. speeding cars drive past me EVERY single run. because people drive over the speed limit every day. but all we here from folks like you are how dangerous people with dogs off leash are, not about speeding vehicles.

Hayduke wrote:

What a jerk you are wrote:

So if a speeding car is coming at you, you won't do something to protect yourself, like swerve or try to get out of the way? What an idiotic comparison.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I freaked out like a little B#@$H everytime I saw a dog off leash or a speeding car, I would be a pretty sad individual.

Hayduke wrote:

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I freaked out like a little B#@$H everytime I saw a dog off leash or a speeding car, I would be a pretty sad individual.

Perhaps if you had ever been hit by a speeding car (like a lot of posters have experienced being bit by a dog) you'd sing a different tune, right tough guy?

Arf Arf Arf wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I freaked out like a little B#@$H everytime I saw a dog off leash or a speeding car, I would be a pretty sad individual.

Perhaps if you had ever been hit by a speeding car (like a lot of posters have experienced being bit by a dog) you'd sing a different tune, right tough guy?

Nope you are still a little b*tc$. It's as simple as that.

Mr. Turtle wrote:

Man your stupid dog comes at me, it will be kicked. You come up me bro we will throw down! So thats why keep your stupid dogs on leash or well trained .. you f*$ shit head!

been there before wrote:

The real story here is how much of a pvssy the owner of the dog is. Sounds they didn't do anything. Someone tried to kick in the direction of my dog once they got a bloody nose and a warning. If you're scared of dogs don't run on trails where dogs are frequently running. If you choose to do so I reserve the right to swing my fists in your direction if you abuse something that isnt yours.

Learn how to speak you half breed idiot.

prefan wrote:

and I kick him as hard as I can in the mouth. Went yelping off

Good for you!! It warmed my heart to read that. You are a hero to all runners.

Arf Arf Arf wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if I freaked out like a little B#@$H everytime I saw a dog off leash or a speeding car, I would be a pretty sad individual.

Perhaps if you had ever been hit by a speeding car (like a lot of posters have experienced being bit by a dog) you'd sing a different tune, right tough guy?

actually.... i was running down a street and a car pulled out in front on me. Hitting me head on and the force pushed me into the street. luckily no oncoming traffic. The guy drove off and me and my teammates just had to keep on our run. what are you gonna do? is that tough enough for you?

You are the epitome of a selfish and lazy dog owner. If your dog wants to run, take it to an open unoccupied field. But you'd rather violate leash laws and etiquette by taking your mutt off leash in a public area. But it's okay because your mangy best friend is "trained". Yeah right. You need to grow up and becomes responsible pet owner.

Your mother said the something, but she still gave it up! Maybe, it was the cool looks! I hope I ran into you on the trial, I'll f*^$$ run your ass over!

Been there before wrote:

[quotrtle wrote:e]Mr. Tu

Man your stupid dog comes at me, it will be kicked. You come up me bro we will throw down! So thats why keep your stupid dogs on leash or well trained .. you f*$ shit head!

been there before wrote:

The real story here is how much of a pvssy the owner of the dog is. Sounds they didn't do anything. Someone tried to kick in the direction of my dog once they got a bloody nose and a warning. If you're scared of dogs don't run on trails where dogs are frequently running. If you choose to do so I reserve the right to swing my fists in your direction if you abuse something that isnt yours.

Learn how to speak you half breed idiot.[/quote]

Interested antenna user wrote:

Hill Stomper wrote:

Getting practical: Carry a sturdy whip antenna with some sort of grip tape. Use it only when you need it.

Need to swing it with a purpose once a month. Glad I have it all the time.

What kind of antenna, and how do you use it, i.e. do you hit the dogs, and does the antenna bend out of shape when you do?

What about pit bulls; does it drive them away too?

Used one off an old radio for years. Rarely actually hit the dog. Do sometimes. Just buzzing them works pretty well. When it does hit it stings them. Was chased by a husky two years ago. Scary. Switched to an extendable baton. It's actually a Smith & Wesson. Same concept. More oomph.