he got away with it
there was a slight chance he could be busted last year with the athens retests
0% chance he was clean
he got away with it
there was a slight chance he could be busted last year with the athens retests
0% chance he was clean
Pre is my favorite wrote:
1997 WC 1,500 final... Runs 3:27 in a championship race, letting up and waving to the crowd. Not even a sweat.
Are you mentally defective? In the 1997 WC 1500 final El G ran 3:35. LOL
99 seville wasnt it
just sayin wrote:
99 seville wasnt it
3:27 waving at the crowd the last 25m. One of the most doped races in history. Only missing Nourredine More syringe
I think distance is relatively clean when compared with sprinting. Last big scandal was Olga Yegorova.
El Guerrouj didn't get caught because he wasn't doping. He was just a freak of nature; I know all pros are freaks of nature, but he was a freak among freaks. Those other Moroccans were taking dope just so they could keep up with him in practice.
Give it up guys, El G was just the best ever. It's just Allah's will.
That is some sound logic right there! you seem extremely knowledgeable about PED and their benefits. great post.
Sarcasm Police wrote:
You guys are just haters. He was the greatest miler of all time and ran all his recovery runs at 4:50-5:00/mi pace for 40-60 minutes twice a day when he wasn't doing workouts.
jointblazer wrote:
just sayin wrote:99 seville wasnt it
3:27 waving at the crowd the last 25m. One of the most doped races in history. Only missing Nourredine More syringe
Waving doesn't slow you down that much
longjack wrote:
the bottom line is:
if you want to run under 348 in the mile you're going to need to be
1 - freak talent
2 - blood boosting
3- grand aerobic base plus grand specific training
you need at least one of the following
altitude
oxygen tents
blood doping
pharmaceuticals epo and such - perscribed / illegal
nutraceuticals
greats from the past on the right blood boost program run a second or so faster per lap. add in perfect pacing and better specific training and sure, they are at the same levels as el-g and the komen's.
the great flaw is that back in the day, there would be crazy amounts long slow distance or tons of shorter intervals,
duh, el-g wannabe 1500m guy needs to run track work mostly around 54-56 seconds pace from 400m to 1km in training. of course you want some pure sprinting and quality base work too.
maybe that is where salazar can fine tune his program more for a centro? he seems to be getting guys to do the fast short work and the super quality aerobic work at 4 min a mile pace but i'm asking, is he missiing the stuff in the middle??
not sure.
Not this.
Pre is my favorite wrote:
1997 WC 1,500 final... Runs 3:27 in a championship race, letting up and waving to the crowd. Not even a sweat.
He ran a 3:35.83 in the 1997 WC 1500 final.
If Bolt is doped, so too was El G.
Hypothetically speaking of course.
asker of things wrote:
If Bolt is doped, so too was El G.
I'm always surprised that not one person was on the circuit and Letsrun, and knew about El G's shady happenings. Did anybody see the way the science lab worked on him?
Of course we saw it (and all realized it), but just like aouita, morceli, etc no one ever talked about it. There was no sense in it. We all knew what was going on- just like the spanisrds. Estevez was practically glowing, he was so pumped full of trash. I think that most of us were really in shock when Boulami got popped.
El G vs. Lagat in the Athens 1500 is still the most exciting sporting event I have ever watched live.
Canova>God wrote:
There is also the theory that some guys are to big to go down. It looks very bad for the sport when the faces of the sport get caught.
Bingo. He made a deal with the IAAF, he had to agree to step down after his double gold Olympics.
Athletics Wes wrote:
Of course we saw it (and all realized it), but just like aouita, morceli, etc no one ever talked about it. There was no sense in it. We all knew what was going on- just like the spanisrds. Estevez was practically glowing, he was so pumped full of trash. I think that most of us were really in shock when Boulami got popped.
What was alarming about Boulami's positive? Was he the first big name to fall from the new testing or was it a surprise that a runner of his caliber didn't have better doctors or micro-dosing techniques, or something else?
El G is/was muslim. Muslims are allowed to lie, to cheat and decieve. In fact they're encouraged to do so if it makes Allah great.
For me there's 0.001% that EL G was clean.
I don't know a Maroccan at elite level running clean.
Not an American obviously wrote:
I don't know a Maroccan at elite level running clean.
the bigger mystery is how geb and bekele beat all the doped up spanish and moroccans during that era
it doesn't stack up unless they were also doped
there is not one clean record in track except maybe the mens 800m.
that goes for the women and men. duh, frickin, duh.
the records are a joke, and the discussion about PEDs are an ongoing joke.
so get over it. track is mostly a PED sport at the top.
the game now is to work around the rules to be "clean" which is just more bullshit.
sheesh. will the bullshit go on to infinity, or what? so let them use, and tell us what they are taking so we can learn something.