Galen Rupp's 10000m Is Not Superior To Chris Solinsky's

haha YO wrote:

Jesse was indeed a friend wrote:

but he has NO CHANCE at getting a medal in WC or Olympic track events, and that is not an attempt to disparage him. This is a dose of reality for the morons.

I'm pretty sure most people would have said the same thing about Centro going into this season.

Rupp entered the NCAA as a great runner but without the strength to stay with those at the very top. Then he got the strength to stay with them but not kick with them. Then he got the strength to dust them. Now he has the strength to stay with the best in the world, but not kick with them. If his steady progression holds true he should be able to kick hard in a race above 27:00 in the near future, especially if it's not in the heat of Daegu.

London should be better!

You have it backwards. Rupp's kick is one of the best among 10K competitors. We saw that in the Birmingham 5000M. He just doesn't have the strength right now to use at the end of a hard, fast paced race.

It doesn't matter what Solinsky "could have run", he didn't. You can yell all you want but it doesn't make any difference, he didn't do it.

Galen Rupp covered 10000 meters in 26:48 and Chris Solinsky covered 10000 meters in 26:59. According to the laws of the universe, Galen Rupp is 11 seconds faster than Chris Solinsky. Also to weaken your point, Chris Solinsky was pulled along for the majority of his 10000-meter effort.

Seek guidance in mathmatics, and be at peace with Buddha.

Namaste.

Chris Solinsky had nobody to challenge him at the end of his 26:59. He finished full of running. Galen Rupp was not dying but he had no answer when Bekele and Rotich decided it was time to race for the win. Rupp's race had more even splits. In the end, we can all be happy for Galen Rupp in showing us what Solinsky could have done last year. Also, Menjo's solo 26:56 effort last year was superior to Galen Rupp's this year. Some people are so cognitively dense.

Hodgie-san, I am no troll. I firmly believe that which I type, and with my brilliant mind, all the disparagement in the world won't shake my confidence.

jesse was a friend wrote:

Listen, for the obtuse: Galen Rupp ran 26:48 in a 10,000 meter race in Brussels on September 16th. Chris Solinsky ran a 26:59 with a last 800 of 1:56 in Palo Alto on May 1st. That is all ye know and all ye need to know. These were two great performances, but you must be a moron if you think Solinsky couldn't have done this last summer.

There is a solid point there, obviously. What would Solinksy have been able to pull off at the end of his 2010 campaign? It is an X, but I'd wager a 26:45 would be well within reach. Think about Solinsky's three sub 13 performances over the June-August span last year.

2.8 seconds behind winning time -- 12:56.66 (6th)

2.1 seconds behind winning time -- 12:55.53 (5th)

1.4 seconds behind winning time -- 12:56.45 (3rd)

There is a clear progression.

I personally don't find Rupp's performance "superior" despite the obviousness of it being a faster time. I'd best frame this opinion with the following:

Rupp's 10,000m effort in 2005 = 28:15

2006 = 28:28

2007 = 27:33

2008 = 27:36

2011 26:48.00 Bruxelles 16/09/2011

2010 27:10.74 Palo Alto, CA 01/05/2010

2009 27:37.99 Berlin 17/08/2009

2008 27:36.99 Beijing (National Stadium) 17/08/2008

2007 27:33.48 Palo Alto, CA 29/04/2007

2006 28:28.18 Melbourne 14/12/2006

2005 28:15.52 Eugene, OR 07/05/2005

jesse was a friend wrote:

Listen, for the obtuse: Galen Rupp ran 26:48 in a 10,000 meter race in Brussels on September 16th. Chris Solinsky ran a 26:59 with a last 800 of 1:56 in Palo Alto on May 1st. That is all ye know and all ye need to know. These were two great performances, but you must be a moron if you think Solinsky couldn't have done this last summer.

There is a solid point there, obviously. What would Solinksy have been able to pull off at the end of his 2010 campaign? It is an X, but I'd wager a 26:45 would be well within reach. Think about Solinsky's three sub 13 performances over the June-August span last year.

2.8 seconds behind winning time -- 12:56.66 (6th)

2.1 seconds behind winning time -- 12:55.53 (5th)

1.4 seconds behind winning time -- 12:56.45 (3rd)

There is a clear progression.

I personally don't find Rupp's performance "superior" despite the obviousness of it being a faster time.

Solisnky debuted with sub 27. For Rupp this has been a long road. 2005 = 28:15

2006 = 28:28

2007 = 27:33

2008 = 27:36

2009 = 27:37

2010 = 27:10

2011 = 26:48

Yes, and the fact that Galen Rupp's fastest ever 5000m is the 761st fastest of all time does NOT mean that he could not have run faster this year. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that in Brussels Galen could have run 13 flat, and possibly faster. This is true despite the morons here who think that the fastest Galen could have run this year is 13:06. They do not do very well at thinking.

jesse was a friend wrote:

Heard through the grapevine wrote:

26:48 is not a big breakthrough effort? Great observation. Also, nice job halfheartedly covering all the remarks you've made about Rupp in the past. Truly a top-notch post and a worth contribution to this forum.

26:48 is NOT a big breakthrough. Do you not understand that Solinsky could have run that fast last year? IF you don't, you must not be very bright. Galen could have run under 27 by late summer last year. This is a nice step in the right direction.

You say that as if it's just common sense. But then you base the assertion on nothing.

Hey Jesse, I'm pretty new here but you've skyrocketed to the top of my low-IQ-douche-bag list. Congrats. However, I must say you are a successful troll, which hopefully was your goal. If not, my God have mercy on whomever you come in contact with. Cheers.

It took you 3 minutes to reply to the first reply of this whole nerdy loser post. I would seriously love to hear how many times you have refreshed your browser for just this post... surely 10 times the miles you've run this week. Loser.

jesse was a friend wrote:

I am clearly correct as usual. However, Galen Rupp is one helluva runner. Of course he'll never medal. So what? Let's appreciate him for what he is.

I believe Galen Rupp is capable of running the U.S. record for the marathon. There...I said it. However, he will NEVER medal in WC or Olympic track and field.

Of course, he will never medal... Smart post OP

nuyorka wrote:

If leading is a requirement for a great race, then Rupps race vs. Solisnky where he re ran 27:11 was better than Sol's 26:58 because rupp led waaay more.

True, I can't believe it tooks that long for someone to say that. Rupp increase the pace for that race and that's why Solinsky came in under 27. He won it fairly by outkicking Rupp, but so did Rupp later win the american record.

Yeah, and the rabbit was even more impressive!

jesse was a friend wrote:

I am clearly correct as usual. However, Galen Rupp is one helluva runner. Of course he'll never medal. So what? Let's appreciate him for what he is.

I believe Galen Rupp is capable of running the U.S. record for the marathon. There...I said it. However, he will NEVER medal in WC or Olympic track and field.

Lol Nice prediction

RoJo,

Can we please dig up Jesse's ID address and expose this fool? I would love to interview him on video.

go america wrote:

jesse was a friend wrote:

I am clearly correct as usual. However, Galen Rupp is one helluva runner. Of course he'll never medal. So what? Let's appreciate him for what he is.

I believe Galen Rupp is capable of running the U.S. record for the marathon. There...I said it. However, he will NEVER medal in WC or Olympic track and field.

Lol Nice prediction

He meant at the 2011 Olympics, not the 2012 Olympics.

No Name wrote:

go america wrote:

Lol Nice prediction

He meant at the 2011 Olympics, not the 2012 Olympics.

I didn't know they held the 2011 Olympics After September...

jesse was a friend wrote:

IF you consider that Galen Rupp never led a step of the race and that the race was in Brussels, where 18 of the fastest 29 10000m performances have been achieved, and that the race was on September 16th instead of May 1st, it is clear that Solinsky's race was as good. However, kudos to Galen Rupp, as I knew he'd likely break 27 one day, but still don't think he has proven he can match Solinsky's 5000 pb. This is NOT a big breakthrough effort. Solinsky could have run this fast last year. Having said that, way to go Galen Rupp. You will never run faster than today, but so what? You made the fanboys happy...

Well, at least you're correct that Rupp cannot match Solinsky at 5000 and that he's run his 10,000 personal best.