I think its a toss up
I think its a toss up
Explain to me how their f***ing affects their racing.
Great response. I was just saying what I want. By the look of your grammar you should go back to 1st grade. You obviously are a total dumb f***. As for the comment about trackhead, I could care less about what he thinks.
Clubber Lang wrote: By the look of your grammar you should go back to 1st grade . . . You obviously are a total dumb f***. . . I could care less about what he thinks.
I think the expression is, "I couldn't care less."
Stupidity truly is blind to itself.
UPDATE:
Recently Scott has admitted he would not be that thrilled if Lagat got his American record. I think he wants an American trained and born runner to get his record. This is probably understandable.
However, Sidney Maree and now Lagat have the US record in the 1500.
Since this message was posted maybe it should now be called Ryun, Scott, Webb, Lagat, who is America's greatest miler. In my opinion it is still Scott.
the two year bump, impressive
Wow, two years.
With today's training methods and knowledge, Ryun would be the world's top miler. Never reached his potential. Destroyed by constant, year round hard intervals.
Lagat would win.
Les wrote:
It's a pretty close call, but I'd have to give it to Ryun because of his two #1 rankings in '66 and '67, his four world records (2 in the mile, 1 in the 1500, 1 in the 880)
Actually, Ryun had five World Records. He also equaled the WR for the mile indoors in 1971.
Has anyone mentioned that Jim Ryun set the world record for the mile when he was 19? He arguably had poor coaching who burned him out at the age of 21. If you read the "Jim Ryun Story," you'll be appalled by the constant intensity of his training. I don't think his coach knew the meaning of a rest day. We'll never know what Ryun would have done had he peaked out at the age of 26 or 27.
Loper wrote:
With today's training methods and knowledge, Ryun would be the world's top miler. Never reached his potential. Destroyed by constant, year round hard intervals.
Perhaps. Or maybe he was as good as he was *because* of the constant, year-round hard intervals. It's hard to know.
Maybe he was as good as he was in high school because of the daily hard intervals. He started dropping out of races at 21 and was over the hill at 22, possibly because of the daily hard intervals.
Living in the past wrote:
Maybe he was as good as he was in high school because of the daily hard intervals. He started dropping out of races at 21 and was over the hill at 22, possibly because of the daily hard intervals.
People, when you are the best in the world ar age 19, with both middle distance World Records, where does one go from there? I'm sure it is hard to keep motivation. The Olympics was the carrot after, but then that was botched by being at 7200 feet.
I would guess his coach, Timmons, was an exceptional coach. Not many know that 5 years before Ryun, Timmons also created the first high-schooler to break 4:10 in the mile when Archie San Romani of East Wichita High ran 4:08.9 at the same meet where five years later Jim Ryun would run the first sub-4 for a high-schooler. That is too amazing to be a coincidence. That is remarkable coaching.
It can obviously be argued that Ryun's training was too intense to keep improving into his 20's very far. But, one has to realize time is of the essence. Careers weren't as long back then, and sometimes you have to seize the moment while the fire is hot and see what can be done. He attained World Records, something no American has done since in any event over 400 meters.
Rick Wohlhuter's 2:13.9 WR (1974)?Khalid Khannouchi's 2:05:38 WR (2002)?
yesstiles wrote:He attained World Records, something no American has done since in any event over 400 meters.
forgotten americans wrote:
Rick Wohlhuter's 2:13.9 WR (1974)?
Khalid Khannouchi's 2:05:38 WR (2002)?
yesstiles wrote:He attained World Records, something no American has done since in any event over 400 meters.
Yeah, you're correct. I think Rick had the WR in the 800 in the early '70's as well.