One of the best threads ever. So nice to see a guy who's in 3:47 shape say he feels like shiitake mushrooms. We all have bad days! Also a great look at how mileage didn't cost him any speed once he came to the pointy end of the season.
One of the best threads ever. So nice to see a guy who's in 3:47 shape say he feels like shiitake mushrooms. We all have bad days! Also a great look at how mileage didn't cost him any speed once he came to the pointy end of the season.
crisscrosscountry wrote:
One of the best threads ever. So nice to see a guy who's in 3:47 shape say he feels like shiitake mushrooms. We all have bad days! Also a great look at how mileage didn't cost him any speed once he came to the pointy end of the season.
You look at S Scott's training and journal commentary, you cling to information that matches your personal theories. Since S Scott didn't train as a lower mileage 800m runner, we have no way of knowing how much his high mileage retarded his 400m & 800m development.
Non linear periodization is the way to go. Works for every athlete as long as the coach knows how to emphasize race pace when it's needed. you're not going to peak early if you touch faster paces early in the build up. The key is to blend the endurance work and faster paces in a balanced way without sacrificing the individual needs of the athlete.
600yd/600m man wrote:
I don't have time to read every page. S Scott was a high school 880 yard specialist. I read the first page. Did S Scott say when he first sprinted sub-50 400m or sub-50 440 yard dash? Did S Scott ever sprint sub-48 400m? Posters getting excited by how fast S Scott ran 10 mile tempo runs is misguided energy. Without sub-49 400m skill, nothing else matters for potentially elite 1500m men.
Scott did display some fine sprinting sometimes:
crisscrosscountry wrote:
One of the best threads ever. So nice to see a guy who's in 3:47 shape say he feels like shiitake mushrooms. We all have bad days! Also a great look at how mileage didn't cost him any speed once he came to the pointy end of the season.
Agree^
Wish there was more of this. Great lessons from Steve and his training.
What a stud. “Ran into a bull”, “jaw froze”…
Hey I'm trying to get some tips for my upcoming XC season and this post is great, but I notice he doesn't do a weekly long run. What do y'all think? Are weekly long runs overrated/unnecessary? If so, then how often should they be run? Also seems like I need to start running doubles for sure.
just keep running wrote:
Hey I'm trying to get some tips for my upcoming XC season and this post is great, but I notice he doesn't do a weekly long run. What do y'all think? Are weekly long runs overrated/unnecessary? If so, then how often should they be run? Also seems like I need to start running doubles for sure.
give some backround. what level are you at? Steve scott was a great runner but you will learn almost nothing from the training of a professional athlete 40 years ago. emphasis on professional.
Volume of Milage is more important than one really long run (long runs are still important). That being said he went on 10 mile run 2-3 Time a week during Base Phase and the occasional 15 mile long run. You don't need to be dropping 14-16 mile long run at 6:30 pace every week.