Fukuoka Live updates

The Fukuoka website has complete results with detailed splits available in English:

http://www.fukuoka-marathon.com/results/index.php?lang=en

Bill Adcocks' winning time of 2.10.48 from 1968 still looks very impressive.

Wet Coast, look at Brown's splits. He would not run to almost 25kms with the leaders if he wasn't planning on at least trying to run a fast, competitive time (i.e. at least sub 2:10). That he went out at such a pace indicates that he was most certainly in race mode. He definitely was not just trying to scrape under Canadian standard. Hope that clears up any confusion for you or any else. Thanks.

Aussie 1 wrote:

Any results for Martin Dent (AUS)????

Martin Dent ran a very smart race 1:06:40/2:14:46 for 13th; ran w/ Mark Tucker (11th in 2:13).

Lighten up will you. I just got on to this thread and read a couple of negative comments towards a "clever girl" so was interested to read on and find out why.

I had a good laugh.

Aussie 1 wrote:

TOP 10???

does anyone know where results can be found???

In general it's a good idea to check a race's website. If you don't know how to find it you can try googling the race's name, "Fukuoka Marathon" or "Fukuoka International Marathon" in this case.

helping you out wrote:

Aussie 1 wrote:

TOP 10???

does anyone know where results can be found???

In general it's a good idea to check a race's website.

What the f@#k is a "website"?!?!?

Off the Grid wrote:

What the f@#k is a "website"?!?!?

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What the f@#k is the internet?!? - Jay

I feel you, man.

Hall opened London with 14:22. How's that?

Reliant Aries wrote:

That's all well and good, but how many American runners (as most people around here use that term: anglos) would be able to throw down a 14:17 en route to a 2:06 the way Kebede did today? I don't see Hall or Ritz doing that and I don't see Rupp ever doing that, either.

opening is a lot different than dropping a 14:17 from 30 to 35k,

Looks like Hall ran 14:28 over the hills in Central Park between 30k and 35k at the trials last year.

http://www.usatf.org/events/2008/OlympicTrials-Marathon-Men/results_splits.asp

obviously wrote:

Wet Coast, look at Brown's splits. He would not run to almost 25kms with the leaders if he wasn't planning on at least trying to run a fast, competitive time (i.e. at least sub 2:10). That he went out at such a pace indicates that he was most certainly in race mode. He definitely was not just trying to scrape under Canadian standard. Hope that clears up any confusion for you or any else. Thanks.

I agree. He probably took on the challenge of breaking Drayton's record (also done at Fukouoka - 1975), but found by 25km that it wasn't going to happen, so backed off in order NOT to blow up, but to get a qualifying time. He's a smart runner, so now knows when to keep pushing, and when not to push. If he wants to hang on until 2012 (he'll turn 41 that year!) to run in London, he'll have to be careful not to push too hard for too long in a race that just isn't happening for him. Hopefully the right day will come to really go after the record, but it's an effort that could take a lot out of him as well.

dht wrote:

Looks like Hall ran 14:28 over the hills in Central Park between 30k and 35k at the trials last year.

That's not 14:17. Hall was great, but there is a big difference between 14:28 and 14:17.

also a big difference doing it after running 2:06-high pace most of the way and not opening with 1:06 or so..

Kebede didn't open with 14:17. He ran it at a much more strategic point in his race, after the pacers were all gone. And after he had already hit the 30 km split at 1:30:41. In London, Hall was over 2 minutes faster than Kebede was in Fukuoka through 30 km yet finished slower and wasn't in contention to win. In NYC, Hall was over 2 minutes slower than Kebede was in Fukuoka through 30 km and win almost 3 minutes slower than Kebede won in Fukuoka. Also, Kebede's slowest 5 km splits in Fukuoka were over a minute faster than Hall's slowest 5 km splits in NYC. Yes Kebede had rabbits, but he still had to hold that pace and then was able to bust out a 14:17 all on his own. I just don't see any anglo runner in the US (or anywhere) who could hope to match that. If Manzano started immediately on a Japanese-style transition to the marathon.....

Montesquieu wrote:

Hall opened London with 14:22. How's that?

Reliant Aries wrote:

That's all well and good, but how many American runners (as most people around here use that term: anglos) would be able to throw down a 14:17 en route to a 2:06 the way Kebede did today? I don't see Hall or Ritz doing that and I don't see Rupp ever doing that, either.

It'll be interesting to see if Kebede can drop the same kind of speed after a 1:01:**-1:02:00 first half in London next year. Interesting too that Wanjiru was there in Fukuoka watching yesterday.

Also interesting that it was Wanjiru's CR that Kebede broke. He may not need to be able to drob a sub-14:20 split if he's rolling 61-62 through the half. I see Kebede vs Wanjiru becoming a huge marathon rivalry in the years to come.