It's gotta be the watch!
vcp runner wrote:
For those who don't think a watch can help you in a race, I think you're wrong. In your next race, try running without hearing a split and not wearing a watch. I'm sorry R.L. Scribner thinks it is a ridiculous complaint. R.L. Scribner must be a perfect runner who runs their best in every race and never relies on a coach or watch or anything to pace themselves.
moco grad wrote:
This "convincing" evidence is that someone who looked like him but had a different name signed up for some local road races as a 20 year old, the minimum age required to race without parental permission.
On the other hand, he has a valid birth certificate and passport which have been accepted by the Montgomery County school system.
Doesn't sound like grounds for an investigation.
There is no doubt that the two are the same person. It has been said by the man (emphasis on man) himself.
i think the guy talking about the watch is just trying to show another way this guy is cheating...bending the rules.
Remember that the kid's passport is the thing to look for here. He did not come to America to dominate HS track, he came to get an agent and make some money. If he has his original passport, it will have a valid birth date on it. He wasn't thinking that he had to be a certain age when he got here so there was no reason to fake something. On the other hand if he got a new passport since he came to America, I would not put much credence in it.
It's not a very compelling argument.
Best Enter College ASAP wrote:
If Solomon wants to attend a D-1 College on scholarship, he better admit his true age and apply right now.
NCAA D-1 colleges have an age 24 limit. If above poster Sherwood Forest is correct, Solomon will turn 22 this coming January. That will give him only 2 ½ years of eligibility at a D-1 college if he enters the college next fall. This is hardly a good situation to obtain a decent scholarship.
But I understand that D-II and D-III colleges have no age limits. If I’m wrong on that, someone please correct me. So perhaps a D-II college will work better for him.
Also does anyone know if the NCAA D-1 age limit is higher for foreign students as another poster above has suggested? I doubt that is the case, but nothing would surprise me.
There is no strict age limit. In D1 there is a limit, but you need to interpret it:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=420fedup wrote:
I cannot believe the lack of concern for American kids and just how many "enlightened" liberal airheads there are on this board and across the country. "It's just a number", "leave the poor kid alone","he deserves the same as anyone else"?!! Are you f-in' kidding me? Don't you have any national pride? Any patriotism? I'm sure you people are the same ones who completely ignore Obama's ties to a terrorist and close ties to two of the biggest racists in this country in Farrahkan and Wright. I'm sure you won't care if he can't produce a birth certificate proving he was born in this country either.
If that "kid" from Maryland is proven to have falsified records to get into this country and into our schools, toss him out immediately. I'm sure though, that you'd let him stay along with any other foreigners who sneak into our country. You won't be happy until every last remnant of what it means to be an American is erased and we're "one world community." You people make me sick. Our kids deserve what they work hard for, not an outsider who is neither American or a kid.
Give me a f***ing break. Do you know anything about US immigration policy?
All legal residents are subject to the same taxes and thus benefits of the federal and state governments. I'm sure this kid was born in Ethiopia but he's here legally. Were you bitching up a storm when Sanya Richards broke the high school indoor 400m record as a Jamaican citizen?
Assuming his paperwork is all in order, he has every right to compete for his high school as anyone else. Of course, the DOB listed in his passport and on record with the US and Ethiopian governments may not be the actual day (or year) that he came into the world. Shit like that happens all the time in Ethiopia, particularly if he was born in the country, well outside of Addis (unlikely, though, as it's people in the city who will have more resources and a better understanding of English and thus be better able to leave).
vcp runner wrote:
For those who don't think a watch can help you in a race, I think you're wrong. In your next race, try running without hearing a split and not wearing a watch. I'm sorry R.L. Scribner thinks it is a ridiculous complaint. R.L. Scribner must be a perfect runner who runs their best in every race and never relies on a coach or watch or anything to pace themselves.
I heard one split last race. It was at 4 miles into an 8k.
It changed everything.
The point - real mobile9 - is that I'm fed up with illegals and more importantly, Americans who have np problems with their ruining this country. I would agree w/ you if we were talking strictly about LEGAL citizens but I was not.
I'm glad you are sure this kid was born in Ethiopia and is here legally. What makes you so sure? OK everyone, back off this "kid". The real mobile9 is sure he's here legally.
liberal wrote:
To see some pictures of Semunguse in Austria last year as a 20-year old, go to:
http://www.firstfotofactory.com/cgi-bin/cosmoshop/lshop.cgistart no: 7383
At VCP last week
Wachau Marathon Sept 2007 (L) NIN 5000 March 2008 (R)
vcp runner wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it against the rules to wear a watch in a high school race? I ran in New York State, and we were never allowed to wear watches. However, in the video from FloTrack, Solomon is clearly wearing a watch until someone tells him to take it off just before he makes the final turn to the straightaway/finish.
http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234115/75073In my mind, having a watch helped him pace himself and make sure he was on pace to break the time. It gave him motivation to run faster if he was behind. Of course, a coach could be on the course yelling out times, but in the back hills at VCP there is no one yelling times and his watch clearly gave him an advantage over others by knowing what time he was running. I'm not too concerned about his age right now, but it clearly seems like he broke a rule here and should not have the record at VCP.
In MD, you are aloud to wear a watch, I don't know about in NY though, where the race took place. But I never wear a watch and rarely hear splits, it doesn't affect me much.
fedup wrote:
The point - real mobile9 - is that I'm fed up with illegals and more importantly, Americans who have np problems with their ruining this country. I would agree w/ you if we were talking strictly about LEGAL citizens but I was not.
I'm glad you are sure this kid was born in Ethiopia and is here legally. What makes you so sure? OK everyone, back off this "kid". The real mobile9 is sure he's here legally.
Because he's Ethiopian. Ever meet any? They tend to do things by the books and (like most African immigrants) are very driven to go by the rules and advance themselves via education.
And this isn't a f***ing walk across the border. This kid and his folks had to have an appointment at the US embassy in Addis, go through their passports, birth certificates, list all academic institutions they attended, etc. The US does some background checking before it issues visas (which he'll need to get into the country coming by plane). That's why. Like I said, it could very well be that he's older than what he says, but I'd be surprised if what he says is different than what all his legal documentation states.
"the real mobile9", you are an idiot. All Ethiopians are above board? There are no criminals or anything of the like in that country?
Not all illegal immigrants come from Mexico and Central America. Some are European, East Asian, and yes, African.
wtf does it matter??? if ficken ryan hall cam back and took down the HS 2 mile rec. i'd make a big deal. the point is everyone is willing to train hard to get a HIGH SCHOOL RECORD which is suposed to be for kids that are aged to be in HIGH SCHOOL.... wow you really pissed me off on that post.
If you have evidence that Solomon Haile's family defrauded USCIS, please go ahead and present it. Please. I implore you. Please detail the extent of their fradulent I-130. You're familiar with I-130s, right?
And by the way, in my experience, Addis is one of the safest cities you'll find in Africa.
joe louis is 137 years old.
I know for a fact you can get fake Birth Cert in those counties. Find the right guy and you can buy one. Everything is corrupt in third world countries.
Town wrote:
I know for a fact you can get fake Birth Cert in those counties. Find the right guy and you can buy one. Everything is corrupt in third world countries.
So where do I go in Lusaka to get myself a fake birth certificate? Who is your guy in Blantyre that can set me up with fake papers? Please, I implore your to enlighten us with your personal expertise in all third world countries.
If we never learn his true age, and the record is upheld, it should simply have an asterik next to it.
Haile seems like a nice enough kid. Even if he is 20, 21, 30, he came to the country seeking a better life--not just to break course records and win small change in road races.
Maybe we'll all learn the real truth soon, but I kind of doubt it. An asterik solves these problems.
If we don't know the "real truth," how could you ever justify putting a random asterisk next to somebody's record?