All Im reading in these studies is that acetaminophen use MAY create an increased risk in ADHD or austism. That is a far cry from Acetaminophen CAUSES autism.
Whats the increase in risk? is it .001% chance? or is it 5%. There doesnt particualarly seem to be a number attached, which is the problem.
Their review grades the Ahlquist Swedish study excellently then gives it a -2 score in “expert opinion” because they desperately need to underweight so it doesn’t disprove their pet theory.
The entire review is crafted to give the answer that, big surprise, Baccarelli makes money off of as an expert witness in sham lawsuits. Shameless.
No you weren't. You were just shown the valid reason the Ahlquist study is useless in this context so you switched to fallacious ad hominem attacks in a failed attempt to defend your politically/ideologically based assessment.
And we shouldn’t be scaring pregnant moms for no reason. That’s harmful.
I don’t think there’s enough evidence to support spending more tax dollars on yet more studies - the null result is pretty clear - but people can fund it if they want.
Is it really scandalous for pregnant women to just not take Tylenol until we know for sure?
Its not like Tylenol is something you actually need.
We spend BILLIONS on some of the dumbest studies imaginable.
Because Trump and RFK say don't take it, we need to stop just in case? I mean, how far up his butt are you? Mountains of evidence, data and actual experts say its safe and effective if used as directed. Trump says there is no autism in Cuba because they don't have access to it, thus Tylenol causes autism. What to believe..........................hmmmmmmmmmmm
All Im reading in these studies is that acetaminophen use MAY create an increased risk in ADHD or austism. That is a far cry from Acetaminophen CAUSES autism.
Whats the increase in risk? is it .001% chance? or is it 5%. There doesnt particualarly seem to be a number attached, which is the problem.
Its the same language for alcohol consumption or smoking. They MAY be harmful in pregnancy.
CDC wrote:
Alcohol use during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk of miscarriage, preterm birth, stillbirth, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).
CDC wrote:
Your baby may be born too small, even after a full-term pregnancy. Smoking slows your baby’s growth before birth. Your baby may be born too early (premature birth). Premature babies often have health problems.5
They said alcohol and smoking MAY be associated with an increase risk! That is a far cry from those CAUSE miscarriage, preterm birth, slow growth etc. But we all know you won't be consistent and reject those based on the language.
Is it really scandalous for pregnant women to just not take Tylenol until we know for sure?
Its not like Tylenol is something you actually need.
We spend BILLIONS on some of the dumbest studies imaginable.
Tylenol reduces fevers. It’s basically the only thing currently allowed during pregnancy.
Fevers are demonstrably bad for the developing fetus.
You better be very very sure the treatment is actually worse than the condition here.
Let me preface my opinion by stating that I would not take medical advice from Trump or RFK Jr..
I lost all trust and respect for the CDC during Covid and even now that RFK Jr is ostensibly in control, I still don't trust the CDC. The FDA has been a puppet for Big Pharma for decades so I'm not accepting anything from the FDA without doing my own due diligence.
I trust my doctors, but they aren't gods. I will listen to their recommendations, but I'll get a second opinion on major decisions make the final decision myself.
It seems that a prudent approach going forward for pregnant women would be to avoid all NSAIDS during pregnancy until we definitively know the causes of autism.
Tylenol is the safest of the NSAIDS, apparently, but why take the risk for your unborn child? Why take any risk you can avoid... alcohol, drugs, smoking, etc.
The exception would be to take Tylenol to reduce fever, which is a known risk. In that case, I'd advise a pregnant woman to take Tylenol, but only as long as it was needed to stop the fever. Fortunately, fever for most people is a relatively rare occurrence... maybe once or twice for 2-3 days over the course of 9 months.
I very strongly suspect that the overwhelming use of Tylenol is for aches and pains during pregnancy.
A prudent approach would be to use a non-drug approach for aches and pains during pregnancy... massage, hot baths, liniments, yoga, etc. Like everything else, there could be exceptions, but this is the approach I would recommend.
RFK, Jr. is going to be a gold mine for trial lawyers, especially as he continues to get a percentage of contingency fee awards from plaintiffs' firms, despite now being in government.
lotta trolls here, but obviously it's multifactorial
I'm sure tylenol, in rare circumstances, may lead to issues, but the main culprit is probably vaccines
look at the current childhood schedule compared to just a few decades prior, and look at the rates of all sorts of neurobehavioral conditions compared to back then - it's ridiculous.
there's no reason little ones need that many injections, especially for things that are basically nonexistent or pose almost no threat
adhd/autism/diabetes/etc. all likely linked to excessive injections. the adjuvants are a disaster and we still don't have any true placebo-controlled trials - why?
the fact that they're hitting 6-month olds with the covid jab is an abomination in and of itself, but when you factor in all the other stuff...
I mean, you've got HepB, DTaP, Tdap, Hib, IPV, PCV13, Rotavirus, MMR, Varicella, HepA, HPV, Meningococcal ACWY, Meningococcal B, on and on... basically 13 different vaccines recommended between birth and 18, anywhere from 34 to 46 total doses.
Because Trump and RFK say don't take it, we need to stop just in case? I mean, how far up his butt are you? Mountains of evidence, data and actual experts say its safe and effective if used as directed. Trump says there is no autism in Cuba because they don't have access to it, thus Tylenol causes autism. What to believe..........................hmmmmmmmmmmm
Its actually Harvard, Mt Sinai, and John Hopkins saying it. TDS is curable but it starts with removing your head from your own butt. mmmmmmk
Their review grades the Ahlquist Swedish study excellently then gives it a -2 score in “expert opinion” because they desperately need to underweight so it doesn’t disprove their pet theory.
The entire review is crafted to give the answer that, big surprise, Baccarelli makes money off of as an expert witness in sham lawsuits. Shameless.
No you weren't. You were just shown the valid reason the Ahlquist study is useless in this context so you switched to fallacious ad hominem attacks in a failed attempt to defend your politically/ideologically based assessment.
Wrong. Baccarelli has obvious bias and conflict of interest AND his analysis is incorrect. He makes many errors frantically trying to discount the big Swedish study.
Because Trump and RFK say don't take it, we need to stop just in case? I mean, how far up his butt are you? Mountains of evidence, data and actual experts say its safe and effective if used as directed. Trump says there is no autism in Cuba because they don't have access to it, thus Tylenol causes autism. What to believe..........................hmmmmmmmmmmm
It’s actually Harvard, Mt Sinai, and John Hopkins saying it. TDS is curable but it starts with removing your head from your own butt. mmmmmmk
No it’s 4 researchers affiliated with those institutions in a single paper that is hotly disputed.
And the senior author has multiple conflicts of interest.
Tylenol reduces fevers. It’s basically the only thing currently allowed during pregnancy.
Fevers are demonstrably bad for the developing fetus.
You better be very very sure the treatment is actually worse than the condition here.
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Tylenol is the safest of the NSAIDS, apparently, but why take the risk for your unborn child? Why take any risk you can avoid... alcohol, drugs, smoking, etc.
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tylenol is not an nsaid....different class of drug
Tylenol reduces fevers. It’s basically the only thing currently allowed during pregnancy.
Fevers are demonstrably bad for the developing fetus.
You better be very very sure the treatment is actually worse than the condition here.
Let me preface my opinion by stating that I would not take medical advice from Trump or RFK Jr..
I lost all trust and respect for the CDC during Covid and even now that RFK Jr is ostensibly in control, I still don't trust the CDC. The FDA has been a puppet for Big Pharma for decades so I'm not accepting anything from the FDA without doing my own due diligence.
I trust my doctors, but they aren't gods. I will listen to their recommendations, but I'll get a second opinion on major decisions make the final decision myself.
It seems that a prudent approach going forward for pregnant women would be to avoid all NSAIDS during pregnancy until we definitively know the causes of autism.
Tylenol is the safest of the NSAIDS, apparently, but why take the risk for your unborn child? Why take any risk you can avoid... alcohol, drugs, smoking, etc.
The exception would be to take Tylenol to reduce fever, which is a known risk. In that case, I'd advise a pregnant woman to take Tylenol, but only as long as it was needed to stop the fever. Fortunately, fever for most people is a relatively rare occurrence... maybe once or twice for 2-3 days over the course of 9 months.
I very strongly suspect that the overwhelming use of Tylenol is for aches and pains during pregnancy.
A prudent approach would be to use a non-drug approach for aches and pains during pregnancy... massage, hot baths, liniments, yoga, etc. Like everything else, there could be exceptions, but this is the approach I would recommend.
The issue is the pregnancy is extremely stressful and painful. If we have good reason to believe something is safe the most ethical thing to do is to give women options to relieve the pain of pregnancy.
(Also, I’ll say massage and hot baths are expressly not recommended during pregnancy either)
It’s hard enough being pregnant. Women have to worry about so much. It’s harmful and unethical to inject more doubt into the system to score political points.
Is it really scandalous for pregnant women to just not take Tylenol until we know for sure?
Its not like Tylenol is something you actually need.
We spend BILLIONS on some of the dumbest studies imaginable.
Because Trump and RFK say don't take it, we need to stop just in case? I mean, how far up his butt are you? Mountains of evidence, data and actual experts say its safe and effective if used as directed. Trump says there is no autism in Cuba because they don't have access to it, thus Tylenol causes autism. What to believe..........................hmmmmmmmmmmm
Moreover, pregnant women taking Tylenol when needed reduces fevers that can harm the fetus. So avoiding it can have harmful results.
Let me preface my opinion by stating that I would not take medical advice from Trump or RFK Jr..
I lost all trust and respect for the CDC during Covid and even now that RFK Jr is ostensibly in control, I still don't trust the CDC. The FDA has been a puppet for Big Pharma for decades so I'm not accepting anything from the FDA without doing my own due diligence.
I trust my doctors, but they aren't gods. I will listen to their recommendations, but I'll get a second opinion on major decisions make the final decision myself.
It seems that a prudent approach going forward for pregnant women would be to avoid all NSAIDS during pregnancy until we definitively know the causes of autism.
Tylenol is the safest of the NSAIDS, apparently, but why take the risk for your unborn child? Why take any risk you can avoid... alcohol, drugs, smoking, etc.
The exception would be to take Tylenol to reduce fever, which is a known risk. In that case, I'd advise a pregnant woman to take Tylenol, but only as long as it was needed to stop the fever. Fortunately, fever for most people is a relatively rare occurrence... maybe once or twice for 2-3 days over the course of 9 months.
I very strongly suspect that the overwhelming use of Tylenol is for aches and pains during pregnancy.
A prudent approach would be to use a non-drug approach for aches and pains during pregnancy... massage, hot baths, liniments, yoga, etc. Like everything else, there could be exceptions, but this is the approach I would recommend.
The issue is the pregnancy is extremely stressful and painful. If we have good reason to believe something is safe the most ethical thing to do is to give women options to relieve the pain of pregnancy.
(Also, I’ll say massage and hot baths are expressly not recommended during pregnancy either)
It’s hard enough being pregnant. Women have to worry about so much. It’s harmful and unethical to inject more doubt into the system to score political points.
Fever, especially during the first half of pregnancy is highly correlated with brain and heart defects. Tylenol is the only allowed fever reducer during pregnancy because we have excellent data showing the risks of NSAIDs and Aspirin.
To get rid of Tylenol because of a spurious correlation, to score political points, will just cause more babies to born with birth defects.
RFK Jr is continuing is quest to kill and maim as many kids as possible.
The issue is the pregnancy is extremely stressful and painful. If we have good reason to believe something is safe the most ethical thing to do is to give women options to relieve the pain of pregnancy.
(Also, I’ll say massage and hot baths are expressly not recommended during pregnancy either)
It’s hard enough being pregnant. Women have to worry about so much. It’s harmful and unethical to inject more doubt into the system to score political points.
Fever, especially during the first half of pregnancy is highly correlated with brain and heart defects. Tylenol is the only allowed fever reducer during pregnancy because we have excellent data showing the risks of NSAIDs and Aspirin.
To get rid of Tylenol because of a spurious correlation, to score political points, will just cause more babies to born with birth defects.
RFK Jr is continuing is quest to kill and maim as many kids as possible.
Stop talking out of your azz...Many top scientists and doctors disagree with you and believe there is a correlation between Tylenol and autism and think it should be used sparingly or not at all during pregnancy...
Joe Bidens mother must have gulped mounds of it while carrying Joe because he sure acted autistic.
Sweden doesn't just have the world's best Pole Vaulter it also has the best Scientific proof that Tylenol doesn't cause Autism.
tRump is going to bring out his clowns 🤡🤡 today to tell you different.
Im a scientist, and let me tell you, we are represented by the AMA, and they have been silent. So we are no better. Every leader in medicine and the AMA should be in front of a mic saying do not listen to the president at all. Ignore everything that comes out of there mouths.
the contradiction you are missing is that independent of the bad advice, it undermines long term trust in FDA/CDC/etc. even when it switches back.
that is the grander scheme, like ending the department of education. this is a trustworthy part of government that helps protect us. so, as with libraries and LGBTQ, we have to come up with a reason to hate something we haven't had much reason to distrust at all for aeons.
having CDC/FDA spouting this nonsense is in part means to that end.
Fever, especially during the first half of pregnancy is highly correlated with brain and heart defects. Tylenol is the only allowed fever reducer during pregnancy because we have excellent data showing the risks of NSAIDs and Aspirin.
To get rid of Tylenol because of a spurious correlation, to score political points, will just cause more babies to born with birth defects.
RFK Jr is continuing is quest to kill and maim as many kids as possible.
Stop talking out of your azz...Many top scientists and doctors disagree with you and believe there is a correlation between Tylenol and autism and think it should be used sparingly or not at all during pregnancy...
Joe Bidens mother must have gulped mounds of it while carrying Joe because he sure acted autistic.
There’s maybe one or two top scientists, who have clear conflict of interest, who agree. Most think there’s not enough data to support limiting its use.
Remember, giving pregnant moms more to worry about WILL lead to worse health outcomes from maternal stress.
Whatever you’re doing has to outweigh that. Simply saying “well, let’s just be safe just in case” doesn’t cut it