Faith Kipyegon Breaking4 attempt confirmed -will go for sub-4 mile in Paris on June 26th

Who knows what shenanigans will be going on behind the scenes leading up to the attempt? Everyyone (honest people that is) already know she’s doped to her eyeballs.

OK Myron, we all know that if the first sub four had been run by Norman Finkelberg you’d be up in arms over this cheat going for it. But since the first was Roger Bannister and a huge proportion of thoae that followed were eh, “citizens of Edom” as you clowns would claim, it’s OK to use cheating Africans as a battering ram.

Even going full throttle won't be enough to make Kipyegon go sub 4

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That’s a pretty big jump to go from 4:07 to sub 4.

but if any woman could do that it would be her.

You went through all that trouble instead of just looking at how her superior 1500m compares to her competitors, instead of an obviously faulty premise.

The 10,000 has one prominent track race a year and a scattered number of low-buzz 10Ks mostly on the roads. Why go to that? The 5,000 move timing was fine, and outside of that it’s simply a question of when she tries a marathon. 2026 likely.

A certain sensitive old mod is deleting harmless posts that put this accomplishment in perspective if she succeeds. Yes, m-lmo with his 4:00.5 PB would be chicked.

after a 2.01 half mile, it's over

Is he V formation in the back the same as in the front? In the front, the way they did it for Kipchoge was not like an icebreaker but like cupping the air and pushing it forward. Would the formation in the back be the same? Your idea of doing the whole thing in lane 5 is interesting. Or they could do it at Franklin Field! (on my mind since I am running masters relays there tomorrow)

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BEKELE´S AERODYNAMICS IN HIS 2.01.41 BERLIN 2019 MARATHON PERFORMANCE - oneKmore

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Bekele run the second fastest marathon time ever in the marathon of Berlin 2019. A recent article studies his drafting and aerodynamics. We explain you all.

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I can see it now 59.9, 59.9 59.9 69.9...hit the wall

Correct. Because non dopers would never achieve a sub 4

Pacesetter through 800m Shelby Houlihan

Stop smoking that crap. You sound delusional

I heard her track spike prototype are rocket propelled. She probably will run 3:55 LOL

Did u hear its in Paris on the huge downhill mile of the marathon course. I say she runs 3:42.99

I thought the same thing ROJO. I thought this sounds like a letsrun April Fools Day homepage. Guarantee the shoes will be something that will aide so much they would never be allowed in a legitimate race

The same lab involved in Kipchoge's calculations for the sub-2 hour marathon did the calculations for Faith going sub-4. The calculations showed theoretically it *might* be possible under the perfect conditions. She was 3% off the 4-minute mark, which was how far the men were from the 2-hr mark.

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‘Breaking 4’: How the 1st female runner could soon break the 4-minute-mile barrier

On May 6, 1954, a lanky medical student named Roger Bannister pushed through the finishing tape at Iffley Road track in Oxford, England, and collapsed into the

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For the new study, the team pored over video of Kipyegon’s record one-mile finish
in Monaco. The wind was dead calm. A slight humidity (which reduces air resistance) hung in the air, and she was wearing state-of-the-art shoes.

But her pacers ran too fast at first, said Kram, letting the gap between them and her widen. By the last lap, her pacers had dropped out and she was on her own.

Ideally, he said, one female pacer would be perfectly spaced in front, another in back, for the first half mile; then another fresh-legged pair would step in to take their place at the half-mile point. Collectively, previous research suggests, they could cut air resistance by 76%. Using that value, the team calculated her projected finish time: Remarkably,
3:59.37—the same time Bannister hit in 1954. “We didn’t cook these numbers,” joked Kram. “We saw that and just smiled.”

Kipp, now a postdoctoral researcher at the Mayo Clinic, stresses that their study, like most in the field of exercise physiology, comes with a caveat: Their calculations were based on previous studies that exclusively involved men. The authors hope their paper will help spark more interest in studying the physiology of female athletes.

I 100% agree, there were so many more factors in that scenario than at play here - and especially with the original attempt in the OG 4% shoe.

It was the first time they used that shoe with that tech in a publicized event and this shoe was dramatically different from previous product used. This will not be at play here - the chatter around crazy cheater spikes - what exactly are they envisaging here? 60mm stack height spikes with CO2 canisters on them? The current "cheater spikes" everyone is up in arms about have really one difference and one difference only from product of the last 30 years and that is super critical pebax/TPE based foams at approximately twice the thickness of the past. It's really not that crazy.

Back to the first Breaking2, it was also the first time they really dialed in on the importance of completely even paced running - right from the first 100m. It was wavelight before wavelight - the pace car with the pace line. Well that also exists now and has been really successfully utilized in every distance WR set in the last 4 years starting with Cheptegei and the absurdly even lap/km splits of his 5 and 10 records and also with Kipyegon in her 15/mile and 5km records.

All those other things you mentioned - totally flat course which is basically impossible in a regular Marathon, well they won't be getting any benefit of improving that here either as she and everyone only ever runs on flat tracks outdoors. There were so many more smaller but important elements they could tweak in that attempt, along with the more obvious ones like footwear, pacing and drafting (over 42195m it's surely a far bigger deal than over 1609m) - to suggest this can be done only with aerodynamic drafting when the 2-3% they gained in the marathon was achieved by improving a myriad of elements - I just don't get the claim.