So they are "in season" but not allowed to have meets yet until the next day. So they think entering everyone as "unattached" circumvents the rules? I'm sure a bunch of HS coaches will be there coaching their kids.
So they are "in season" but not allowed to have meets yet until the next day. So they think entering everyone as "unattached" circumvents the rules? I'm sure a bunch of HS coaches will be there coaching their kids.
"In Season" starts Feb 22, any meet prior to that constitutes "not in season" meaning CIF rules aren't applicable. It's an all comers meet no different than a Winter Champs Qualifier that runs from December to early February. There are no rules to circumvent and maybe it's the last opportunity for any "sit out period" (AKA transfers) to get in a race before sit out period ends in late March.
So they are "in season" but not allowed to have meets yet until the next day. So they think entering everyone as "unattached" circumvents the rules? I'm sure a bunch of HS coaches will be there coaching their kids.
"In Season" starts Feb 22, any meet prior to that constitutes "not in season" meaning CIF rules aren't applicable. It's an all comers meet no different than a Winter Champs Qualifier that runs from December to early February. There are no rules to circumvent and maybe it's the last opportunity for any "sit out period" (AKA transfers) to get in a race before sit out period ends in late March.
So very wrong. Once official practices start you can't do competitions with your High School coaches coaching you there until the official meet day of tomorrow.
Yeah, he also went 1:51 at an all comers meet a week or two ago, so I wonder if he'll be able to lower his sub 1:50 PR from early last season and hopefully going into state.
Poly always peaks too early and then get injured by the time it's states season so IDK
This is just straight up not true LMAO
Kinda is. They somehow have an absurd amount of fast athletes every year yet hardly any of them even make it to the state final. Like, some freshman ran 48.1 in 2023 but in 2024, barely broke 50. Don't know what goes on at that school, but it's weird.
Ricks has been mediocre at Georgia so far (and also was wasting his talent trying to be a wannabe 400m runner who was clearly SO MUCH better at the 800m) and was hurt all of last year. Yes he did rally to win the 2024 CIF state 400m after a string of terrible races leading up, but it's evident he isn't the same.
I remember Kirk and Rhone were both 1:52 guys at LB Poly from 2023, yet neither of them were at the state final
Kinda is. They somehow have an absurd amount of fast athletes every year yet hardly any of them even make it to the state final. Like, some freshman ran 48.1 in 2023 but in 2024, barely broke 50. Don't know what goes on at that school, but it's weird.
Ricks has been mediocre at Georgia so far (and also was wasting his talent trying to be a wannabe 400m runner who was clearly SO MUCH better at the 800m) and was hurt all of last year. Yes he did rally to win the 2024 CIF state 400m after a string of terrible races leading up, but it's evident he isn't the same.
I remember Kirk and Rhone were both 1:52 guys at LB Poly from 2023, yet neither of them were at the state final
There are countless others
Listen man
Any other team and I would probably agree with you but we're talking about the DEFENDING STATE CHAMPIONS here. This narrative that Poly are second-rates come championship season needs to die because it's just not true. Even looking at it from a historical perspective Poly is probably top 3 in state team championship titles over the last 110+ years.
Kinda is. They somehow have an absurd amount of fast athletes every year yet hardly any of them even make it to the state final. Like, some freshman ran 48.1 in 2023 but in 2024, barely broke 50. Don't know what goes on at that school, but it's weird.
Ricks has been mediocre at Georgia so far (and also was wasting his talent trying to be a wannabe 400m runner who was clearly SO MUCH better at the 800m) and was hurt all of last year. Yes he did rally to win the 2024 CIF state 400m after a string of terrible races leading up, but it's evident he isn't the same.
I remember Kirk and Rhone were both 1:52 guys at LB Poly from 2023, yet neither of them were at the state final
There are countless others
Correct me if i'm wrong, but the main idea you are suggesting is that Poly doesn't develop talent to the full extent of their abilities. I disagree there as well.
1. It is unrealistic to expect every phenom to develop into world-beaters. We see the same story happen with tons of talented underclassmen everywhere - this isn't something that ONLY happens at LBP.
2. Setbacks happen. Progression isn't always linear. For example, lets use that 48.1 freshman you were talking about, Noah Smith. He ran 48.1 in 2023 before injuries brought him down last year. But what about now, as a junior? Well, he's doing just fine, having run 33.06 in the 300 and 16.05 in the 150 at California winter championships a week ago.
If a school with 5 runners under 21 seconds in it's history is a school that can't develop talent, I would hate to see what a school with TRULY bad training looks like.
Poly does actually do a decent job at developing their talent- just look at Ronan McMahon-Staggs. 15:13 Woodward (11th in state DI). Big contributor to the UCLA and UW team.
Kinda is. They somehow have an absurd amount of fast athletes every year yet hardly any of them even make it to the state final. Like, some freshman ran 48.1 in 2023 but in 2024, barely broke 50. Don't know what goes on at that school, but it's weird.
Ricks has been mediocre at Georgia so far (and also was wasting his talent trying to be a wannabe 400m runner who was clearly SO MUCH better at the 800m) and was hurt all of last year. Yes he did rally to win the 2024 CIF state 400m after a string of terrible races leading up, but it's evident he isn't the same.
I remember Kirk and Rhone were both 1:52 guys at LB Poly from 2023, yet neither of them were at the state final
There are countless others
Correct me if i'm wrong, but the main idea you are suggesting is that Poly doesn't develop talent to the full extent of their abilities. I disagree there as well.
1. It is unrealistic to expect every phenom to develop into world-beaters. We see the same story happen with tons of talented underclassmen everywhere - this isn't something that ONLY happens at LBP.
2. Setbacks happen. Progression isn't always linear. For example, lets use that 48.1 freshman you were talking about, Noah Smith. He ran 48.1 in 2023 before injuries brought him down last year. But what about now, as a junior? Well, he's doing just fine, having run 33.06 in the 300 and 16.05 in the 150 at California winter championships a week ago.
If a school with 5 runners under 21 seconds in it's history is a school that can't develop talent, I would hate to see what a school with TRULY bad training looks like.
You make some valid points here, I suppose it just surprises me because I don't know how Poly has so many state contenders and finalists EVERY season, it's crazy. They're like an NCAA D1 team as a highschool.
Alden Morales 2:24.22 at the Jserra all-comers - just outside of top 10 all time.
Last year Owen Powell broke the High School 1000 outdoor best of 2:24.79 April with a 2:23.22 which was later broken by Marcus Reilly in July with a 2:21.81. That would likely make Morales #3 all time outdoors in the 1000 (there may be a couple of faster indoor times like Robby Andrews).
Alsooooo, Liam Miller has done it again at Spokane. Won the Indoor mile in 4:14.05, beating guys like Hayden Boaz (Summit) and Zach Cervi-Skinner (Coeur d’Alene). Then he went on to win the indoor 3k at 8:23. Keep in mind Spokane is about 1.8 thousand ft in elevation. Don’t sleep on Liam Miller.