NBC has no control over the video feed except for the ability to swap in ads during the race. Premium Peacock is not supposed to have ads but go to black screen when NBC shows ads on other affiliates. In past years, NBC inflicted the pathetic domestic announcers for the domestic Diamond League meetings. Going by past practice, we should have been served the unbeatable team of Steve Cram and Tim Hutchins but no such luck. Swangard is beyond hopeless; I gather he has the microphone because of ties to Nike. Even Goucher, who is quickly developing into a quality analyst, can't begin to compensate for Swangard's limitations. Cutting the Cram/Hutchins narration today is an ominous sign that NB¢Peacock will be feeding nothing but Swangard all year. I turned to CBC for the European analysis and expect to be doing the same for the rest of the year. Wish I hadn't paid Peacock for the annual subscription but am feeling less depressed about Diamond League leaving NBC after the Olympics.
Official 2024 Doha DL Live Discussion Thread (Live Reaction Show to Follow at 2:05 pm ET)
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Coevett wrote:
Not impressed with the 1500m.
Jakob and the Brits will hardly be losing any sleep.
I can actually see Asbel Kiprop having a shot at making the team.
The Brits outside of Kerr can’t afford to be thinking about anything but qualification.
Jake’s got a long way to go considering Giles’ race today looked better than any of his indoors/in Australia ones by a long shot.
Mills should still feel confident based on his indoor fitness, but that Giles close was strong.Stonier, Gourley and Heyward face an uphill battle to get top 3 so I doubt they’re even thinking about Kenyans.
As for Jakob, I’m sure he checked it out and mostly noted that was the most confident that Tim looked in his old playbook (getting to the front and controlling it) since 2021. A non-deferential Tim is part of what cost him gold in 2022. I doubt he’s too worried about Komen just yet, lumping him in with the other guys he won’t leave it to a kick to.
Kiprop is funny to say cuz he is competing. Kenyan Trials will only feature athletes with a ranking/qualifying time. So he is effectively out. Right now there are 7 in the running with a few possible to join like Amon Kemboi, Daniel Kimaiyo, Kamar Etiang and maybe another new name or two if they can get into a race outside of Kenya:
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Finance Bro wrote:
With all the talking from Nordas about how great he is, he sure ran like someone who doesn’t feel like they belong in the race.
He could use a few lashes with a wet towel.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Not impressed with the 1500m.
Jakob and the Brits will hardly be losing any sleep.
I can actually see Asbel Kiprop having a shot at making the team.
The Brits outside of Kerr can’t afford to be thinking about anything but qualification.
Jake’s got a long way to go considering Giles’ race today looked better than any of his indoors/in Australia ones by a long shot.
Mills should still feel confident based on his indoor fitness, but that Giles close was strong.Stonier, Gourley and Heyward face an uphill battle to get top 3 so I doubt they’re even thinking about Kenyans.
As for Jakob, I’m sure he checked it out and mostly noted that was the most confident that Tim looked in his old playbook (getting to the front and controlling it) since 2021. A non-deferential Tim is part of what cost him gold in 2022. I doubt he’s too worried about Komen just yet, lumping him in with the other guys he won’t leave it to a kick to.
Kiprop is funny to say cuz he is competing. Kenyan Trials will only feature athletes with a ranking/qualifying time. So he is effectively out. Right now there are 7 in the running with a few possible to join like Amon Kemboi, Daniel Kimaiyo, Kamar Etiang and maybe another new name or two if they can get into a race outside of Kenya:
Is Jake Heyward still alive? He hasn´t raced since September 2022!?
Gourley and Stonier haven´t raced yet this year.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Not impressed with the 1500m.
Jakob and the Brits will hardly be losing any sleep.
I can actually see Asbel Kiprop having a shot at making the team.
The Brits outside of Kerr can’t afford to be thinking about anything but qualification.
Jake’s got a long way to go considering Giles’ race today looked better than any of his indoors/in Australia ones by a long shot.
Mills should still feel confident based on his indoor fitness, but that Giles close was strong.Stonier, Gourley and Heyward face an uphill battle to get top 3 so I doubt they’re even thinking about Kenyans.
As for Jakob, I’m sure he checked it out and mostly noted that was the most confident that Tim looked in his old playbook (getting to the front and controlling it) since 2021. A non-deferential Tim is part of what cost him gold in 2022. I doubt he’s too worried about Komen just yet, lumping him in with the other guys he won’t leave it to a kick to.
Kiprop is funny to say cuz he is competing. Kenyan Trials will only feature athletes with a ranking/qualifying time. So he is effectively out. Right now there are 7 in the running with a few possible to join like Amon Kemboi, Daniel Kimaiyo, Kamar Etiang and maybe another new name or two if they can get into a race outside of Kenya:
The Kenyan Brian Komen could a head cutter of both Kerr and Jakob who know. So far he has the best finish.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Kung Fu Kenny unleashes a 19.67, but even more impressive beating Lindsey by .34 is no joke right now.
2 things:
1) Lindsey is still unproven, I remarked on that after his earlier seemingly breakthrough time. Beating him by 0.34 doesn’t mean much at all.
2) Wind-legal 19.67 right now is yuuuuuge!!!! Is that his new PB? I remember when ADG went a windy 19.5x at NCAA’s, and it foretold of great things to come. Man I hope he doesn’t burn out before trials and OG’s, I would love to see another 19.5-capable guy in the mix.
Huge!💪👍. What does this mean for his relay prospects on 2nd or 3rd leg? Can’t wait to see the race.
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NYDCRunner1 wrote:
UkrainianHunk wrote:
This makes the Trials even more interesting. Lyles and Knighton can't slip up with Lindsey and Bednarek hungry and Coleman claiming to want the double too.
Coleman and Kerley talking about doubling a bit of a waste of time. Well they could try, but they will make no headway against the big three?
Totally agree. Lyles is probably 19.6 right now with that wind, and Knighton maybe 19.8. CC in particular has no chance. And then there’s Lindsey.
Rojo that wind is not huge, plus wind in the 200 is different than in the 100.
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nordgohomedevestated wrote:
What was Nordas thinking? Did he really think he could just run this field down in the last 200? Does he think he is Beamish or something? Maybe with 400 to go he could sense his lactate was above the rest of the field and knew it wasn’t worth ruining his post race workout.
Closers don't think. They risk nothing and deserve nothing. The only thing they have going for them is public fascination. Americans in particular are mesmerized by that crap. It works maybe 10% of the time but that doesn't discourage hype 100% of the time. We even had a post in this thread saying the wind conditions might enable a closer to win the women's 800.
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Three poor races in a row from Welteji. That is unheard of from her. I think it's more mental than physical. Welteji is not combative by nature. I suspected she was in trouble when her training partner Hailu aggressively went to the front this time. Hailu beat Welteji several times in a row during indoor season, after Welteji entered the year full of confidence. Hailu dented that confidence and once Welteji saw her long gone today she decided to step off and hopefully regroup instead of suffering a lopsided defeat.
It was unthinkable at the beginning of the year but Welteji now might be in jeopardy of not being selected for Paris.
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Awsi Dooger wrote:
Closers don't think. They risk nothing and deserve nothing. The only thing they have going for them is public fascination. Americans in particular are mesmerized by that crap. It works maybe 10% of the time but that doesn't discourage hype 100% of the time. We even had a post in this thread saying the wind conditions might enable a closer to win the women's 800.
I think that was me, but it was more in reference to if Moraa had pushed hard and let others get a drafting advantage from 400m to 650m. Instead she slammed on the brakes and it forced Reekie to ru extra after getting passed. Moraa saved her energy by basically jogging until that last 150.
Youre oversimplifying closers a bit because the winner Komen is a closer. He has a great kick (26.5->12.9 last 200 today) but he also runs towards the front to give himself a chance. Nordas sometimes seems to be a bit of a one-trick pony in going out slow and hoping to pass everyone the last lap. Bad strategy today and he only ran the last 100 particularly well.
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Jakob’s 1500m split in his 2k wr was faster than the winning time today. He will destroy all of these guys without a sweat.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Awsi Dooger wrote:
Closers don't think. They risk nothing and deserve nothing. The only thing they have going for them is public fascination. Americans in particular are mesmerized by that crap. It works maybe 10% of the time but that doesn't discourage hype 100% of the time. We even had a post in this thread saying the wind conditions might enable a closer to win the women's 800.
I think that was me, but it was more in reference to if Moraa had pushed hard and let others get a drafting advantage from 400m to 650m. Instead she slammed on the brakes and it forced Reekie to ru extra after getting passed. Moraa saved her energy by basically jogging until that last 150.
Youre oversimplifying closers a bit because the winner Komen is a closer. He has a great kick (26.5->12.9 last 200 today) but he also runs towards the front to give himself a chance. Nordas sometimes seems to be a bit of a one-trick pony in going out slow and hoping to pass everyone the last lap. Bad strategy today and he only ran the last 100 particularly well.
Moraa does this every time. At different points in the race. She has an amazing kick so likes to slow it down to gather strength. Why does everyone keep letting her? They must have watched her race.
Reekie got boxed in and slowed down in the World Indoors and let it happen again. She had to go so wide that must have cost a good second. She needs to be better with her race strategy. However she did look in good shape so that’s something
Moraa still doesn’t have the PB of Mu and Hodgkinson yet she has the tactics to win. Someone must have figured out how to beat her!
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@ THOUGHTLEADER
12:9 last 100m is quite speedy.
Jakob was rarely able to drop lower than 13:3
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Also in the results:
Almgren all the way back in 3:35.2. Tough one for him on what has been a great 2024 otherwise.
But he did a ton of 10k training (double T) so I’m not surprised he’s not sharp at all despite his 1:45 800m PR
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straight guy here wrote:
just wondering.. wrote:
Was this posted from a bathhouse?
Rude.
But was it inaccurate?
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