50% is generous and you know it. For the vast majority it’s a walking/hiking contest.
Ok so your cut off is 50% of the race must be run? If someone runs 49 miles of a 100 mile race, they must not say they ran. They may only let people know they walked.
No, I don’t have a cutoff. It’s very obvious that most of it is walking. And, for most of the people that do it, It’s a walking/hiking contest.
Why is it so important for all of you to call it running. Seriously why?
- To use the word “walking” is just intended to piss people of. Additionally it is inaccurately used, the surface must be smooth and generally level. At the very least the activity is hiking. OK
- To refer to ultras as a running event is obviously untrue! It is an “endurance challenge” note Hard Rock EC. The critics are 100% right!
Both sides are subject to being hit with cheap shots and throwing cheap shots, who profits? It’s pretty clear.
Ok so your cut off is 50% of the race must be run? If someone runs 49 miles of a 100 mile race, they must not say they ran. They may only let people know they walked.
No, I don’t have a cutoff. It’s very obvious that most of it is walking. And, for most of the people that do it, It’s a walking/hiking contest.
Why is it so important for all of you to call it running. Seriously why?
These are kids who can run a quick 5k. Most of them could not run a Marathon without walking right now. They just don't have the experience to judge things which are beyond their real life experience.
- To use the word “walking” is just intended to piss people of. Additionally it is inaccurately used, the surface must be smooth and generally level. At the very least the activity is hiking. OK
- To refer to ultras as a running event is obviously untrue! It is an “endurance challenge” note Hard Rock EC. The critics are 100% right!
Both sides are subject to being hit with cheap shots and throwing cheap shots, who profits? It’s pretty clear.
Why is using the word walking to describe people that are walking a cheap shot?
The weekly ultra-bashing thread: "these ultrarunners are just walking, they are so soft. LOL"
Most events are called ultra-trail, ultra marathons, endurance challenge etc.. The point is to cover a certain. course in the shortest time. It is irrelevant how you do it. The sport in general is called ultra running or trail running because you are allowed to run, if you wish. This distinguishes it from walking competitions, where you are not allowed to run. It is not that hard.
- To use the word “walking” is just intended to piss people of. Additionally it is inaccurately used, the surface must be smooth and generally level. At the very least the activity is hiking. OK
- To refer to ultras as a running event is obviously untrue! It is an “endurance challenge” note Hard Rock EC. The critics are 100% right!
Both sides are subject to being hit with cheap shots and throwing cheap shots, who profits? It’s pretty clear.
I'm fine with calling all races from anything >0m to cross-continent or even around the world if there are any as all just footraces. Walk, run, sprint, crawl, scramble, I don't really care. Whatever gets someone across the finish in a competitive effort on foot is the best technique for that particular person and that particular race course. You are right, the OP is just trying to piss people off, but he's arguing about something that doesn't matter. I'd like to lump in races like the point-to-point wilderness races without defined routes too, though things like packrafts might also come into play, so they might be mostly footraces.
Walking competitions are the only footraces that restrict how you footrace. Otherwise, there aren't any rules about how you footrace even 100m track races. We've seen people walk across the line with pulled muscles in sprints, and they aren't DQ'd for walking, so all running races are technically footraces that allow you to walk (or crawl, etc.).
The weekly ultra-bashing thread: "these ultrarunners are just walking, they are so soft. LOL"
Most events are called ultra-trail, ultra marathons, endurance challenge etc.. The point is to cover a certain. course in the shortest time. It is irrelevant how you do it. The sport in general is called ultra running or trail running because you are allowed to run, if you wish. This distinguishes it from walking competitions, where you are not allowed to run. It is not that hard.
Read the thread. Nobody said they were soft. They just said most of the participants walk/hike.
The weekly ultra-bashing thread: "these ultrarunners are just walking, they are so soft. LOL"
Most events are called ultra-trail, ultra marathons, endurance challenge etc.. The point is to cover a certain. course in the shortest time. It is irrelevant how you do it. The sport in general is called ultra running or trail running because you are allowed to run, if you wish. This distinguishes it from walking competitions, where you are not allowed to run. It is not that hard.
Read the thread. Nobody said they were soft. They just said most of the participants walk/hike.
Quit projecting your insecurities on to others.
Not being able to read between the lines is a sign of autism.
- To use the word “walking” is just intended to piss people of. Additionally it is inaccurately used, the surface must be smooth and generally level. At the very least the activity is hiking. OK
- To refer to ultras as a running event is obviously untrue! It is an “endurance challenge” note Hard Rock EC. The critics are 100% right!
Both sides are subject to being hit with cheap shots and throwing cheap shots, who profits? It’s pretty clear.
Why is using the word walking to describe people that are walking a cheap shot?
Are egos so fragile that the word walk offends?
The length of the activity is generally considered a factor and more importantly the surface conditions define hiking. To address your second question, wouldn’t you agree that they have earned a degree of respect for their accomplishment? To call the activity walking vs hiking sounds disrespectful (cheap shot).
- To use the word “walking” is just intended to piss people of. Additionally it is inaccurately used, the surface must be smooth and generally level. At the very least the activity is hiking. OK
- To refer to ultras as a running event is obviously untrue! It is an “endurance challenge” note Hard Rock EC. The critics are 100% right!
Both sides are subject to being hit with cheap shots and throwing cheap shots, who profits? It’s pretty clear.
I'm fine with calling all races from anything >0m to cross-continent or even around the world if there are any as all just footraces. Walk, run, sprint, crawl, scramble, I don't really care. Whatever gets someone across the finish in a competitive effort on foot is the best technique for that particular person and that particular race course. You are right, the OP is just trying to piss people off, but he's arguing about something that doesn't matter. I'd like to lump in races like the point-to-point wilderness races without defined routes too, though things like packrafts might also come into play, so they might be mostly footraces.
Walking competitions are the only footraces that restrict how you footrace. Otherwise, there aren't any rules about how you footrace even 100m track races. We've seen people walk across the line with pulled muscles in sprints, and they aren't DQ'd for walking, so all running races are technically footraces that allow you to walk (or crawl, etc.).
I’m not trying to piss anyone off. I only said that most people walk almost all of the miles and they do. I even said it was impressive. I truly believe it is impressive. I can’t for the life of me figure out why it’s so important for it to be called running.
The fact that it pisses people off says more about them than it does me.
I learned one thing for sure. Ultra athletes sure are sensitive.
Why is using the word walking to describe people that are walking a cheap shot?
Are egos so fragile that the word walk offends?
The length of the activity is generally considered a factor and more importantly the surface conditions define hiking. To address your second question, wouldn’t you agree that they have earned a degree of respect for their accomplishment? To call the activity walking vs hiking sounds disrespectful (cheap shot).
Never once did I say they were soft. Never once did I say it wasn't an accomplishment. I just said it wasn't running. I can't control how that's perceived.
I'm fine with calling all races from anything >0m to cross-continent or even around the world if there are any as all just footraces. Walk, run, sprint, crawl, scramble, I don't really care. Whatever gets someone across the finish in a competitive effort on foot is the best technique for that particular person and that particular race course. You are right, the OP is just trying to piss people off, but he's arguing about something that doesn't matter. I'd like to lump in races like the point-to-point wilderness races without defined routes too, though things like packrafts might also come into play, so they might be mostly footraces.
Walking competitions are the only footraces that restrict how you footrace. Otherwise, there aren't any rules about how you footrace even 100m track races. We've seen people walk across the line with pulled muscles in sprints, and they aren't DQ'd for walking, so all running races are technically footraces that allow you to walk (or crawl, etc.).
I’m not trying to piss anyone off. I only said that most people walk almost all of the miles and they do. I even said it was impressive. I truly believe it is impressive. I can’t for the life of me figure out why it’s so important for it to be called running.
The fact that it pisses people off says more about them than it does me.
I learned one thing for sure. Ultra athletes sure are sensitive.
I’m not trying to piss anyone off. I only said that most people walk almost all of the miles and they do. I even said it was impressive. I truly believe it is impressive. I can’t for the life of me figure out why it’s so important for it to be called running.
The fact that it pisses people off says more about them than it does me.
I learned one thing for sure. Ultra athletes sure are sensitive.
The length of the activity is generally considered a factor and more importantly the surface conditions define hiking. To address your second question, wouldn’t you agree that they have earned a degree of respect for their accomplishment? To call the activity walking vs hiking sounds disrespectful (cheap shot).
Never once did I say they were soft. Never once did I say it wasn't an accomplishment. I just said it wasn't running. I can't control how that's perceived.
I get the impression that my first point (comment #124) so offended you that you didn’t read my second point where I said calling ultras running - was BS. you just can’t agree with anything I say!