I find the Jalisco New Generation Track Club fascinating and they have expanded beyond just track!
I find the Jalisco New Generation Track Club fascinating and they have expanded beyond just track!
WesFly vs NewGen for most obnoxious zoomer level running content. Who you got?
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This whole thread is so overblown and overanalyzed. 99 percent of the people commenting would be in hiding if actions they took at 17 were this thoroughly looked at. They're obviously having fun at a camp. Everyone is saying that Ben and the whole camp is creepy like he made Jackson do it. I don't even understand Ben's involvement to this post or how it perpetuates violence against women in the first place. Is it literally only because it's a woman being pushed in the locker? Maybe she just volunteered because she wanted to be involved in the photoshoot? Especially with the swirly pictures highlighting a woman literally being the one holding down her head. But no, we should definitely assume that these 17 year olds are aiming to encourage younger generations to be misogynistic and violent to women. Jackson, Ben, Ryder, and all the women involved clearly just really, really hate women. Screw this whole thread. Let them have their fun. Find something productive to do rather than demonizing random teenagers.
You’re insane….read the comments this crew of creative, talented geniuses left Emma gee.
Prospective NIL deals + social media + distance runners + summer camp for big kids=sh#show
I actually see the point behind New Gen. Distance running media is pretty awful. Having some media that is more in line with what everyone is watching on youtube, tik tok, etc. might help give the sport more exposure and give aspiring distance runners a chance to fund their training/racing through NIL and social media income. There is a long list of hobby joggers making money on social media with distance running content, why shouldn't college and pro runners be able to do it too?
But he who lives by the social media stardom, dies by social media stardom. If they are going to try to use social media to help the sport's popularity and monetize runner's image, then they will also have to learn how to make a product for the masses and not just something their friends will think is cool.
I'll probably get flack for this—I can see the toilet is not really a toilet—but even having a girl sitting in a locker with no apparent discomfort to her shoulders is glorifying that girl runner's physique that is going to trigger dozens of eating disorders among the high school set.
the court cases in 5 years gonna be wild. I predict a lot of "I do not recall such incidents occurring on camp grounds"
the toilet bowl is one thing but there is literally one of a dude shoving a girl into a locker. wtf is that all about
I don’t really have any problem with the photos, it’s just kids having bit of fun.
I don’t really like the way they went after Emma for her criticism,
but one thing i find weird is all the grooming accusations on this thread, which are all seemingly based off of “getting the feeling”
i don’t think that’s really something that should just get thrown around.
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the toilet bowl is one thing but there is literally one of a dude shoving a girl into a locker. wtf is that all about
According to the new gen Z sycophants you gotta let the “kids” have their fun…
I am wondering what parameters new gen put into place to be hosting minors at a camp. God forbid someone gets hurt, caught underage drinking or worse. I’m just going to assume they have that side of things figured out if this is their 3rd year.
I agree it should not get thrown around and has been out of control with no evidence. The previous connection to Evert Silva, who apparently had sexual assault at allegations filed against him at his college, doesn’t help. Correct me if I’m wrong, he was at the camp the first year they had it?
But in general, it doesn’t look great when 24 year old boys are running a camp for 17 year old girls. They have a couple female counselors but they are either all college kids or “self employed”. Like is there a real authority figure that’s going to take charge when things get out of controls? Maybe that’s just my view. They seem more like immature clout chasers than anything
Yeah, I’ve had this same thought as well. I’ve worked at summer camps, and I’ve also been a child-minder for working youth talent in the performing arts industry. In roles like that I’ve had to have a binder with me that included things like medical records, parent contact info, and signed liability waivers. Counselors have to get background checked and go through CPR/first aid training. We often have to adhere to the “rule of three,” meaning that one adult and one minor cannot be alone together; always bring a second adult or a friend of the kid if you need to discuss something privately. Camps also need to purchase insurance (would On agree to sponsor a camp that didn’t have an insurance policy??). Looking at the New Gen content, I’ve definitely wondered if the counselors know things like which kids have allergies and if they have epipens on them. That stuff sounds unimportant until suddenly an allergic kid gets stung by a bee, and then it becomes very serious.
I suppose they could bypass some of the liability concerns if they only accepted 18 year old campers, but some of them seem to be 17.
It looks like the NG camp took place on the CU Boulder campus, so hopefully there’s some program that CU offers in the summer to host smaller camp groups and maybe take care of some of the logistics.
Without knowing any details about how the NG camp is organized, I’m not going to assume that they’re cutting corners and potentially putting themselves in legal jeopardy. Still, with the amount of maturity that seems to be coming out of this year’s camp, the questions are in my mind.
being responsible for children is actually a job wrote:
Yeah, I’ve had this same thought as well. I’ve worked at summer camps, and I’ve also been a child-minder for working youth talent in the performing arts industry. In roles like that I’ve had to have a binder with me that included things like medical records, parent contact info, and signed liability waivers. Counselors have to get background checked and go through CPR/first aid training. We often have to adhere to the “rule of three,” meaning that one adult and one minor cannot be alone together; always bring a second adult or a friend of the kid if you need to discuss something privately. Camps also need to purchase insurance (would On agree to sponsor a camp that didn’t have an insurance policy??). Looking at the New Gen content, I’ve definitely wondered if the counselors know things like which kids have allergies and if they have epipens on them. That stuff sounds unimportant until suddenly an allergic kid gets stung by a bee, and then it becomes very serious.
I suppose they could bypass some of the liability concerns if they only accepted 18 year old campers, but some of them seem to be 17.
It looks like the NG camp took place on the CU Boulder campus, so hopefully there’s some program that CU offers in the summer to host smaller camp groups and maybe take care of some of the logistics.
Without knowing any details about how the NG camp is organized, I’m not going to assume that they’re cutting corners and potentially putting themselves in legal jeopardy. Still, with the amount of maturity that seems to be coming out of this year’s camp, the questions are in my mind.
Start with getting rid of the current photographers (why would you mortgage your company’s name on grown men who’ve got a little blurred lines thing going on?) really good photographers are out there.
Second, you may want to not invite girls with 5:09 and 22:00 PRs
that doesn't explain the outrage over the original posts
Some updates to this story. Emma recently posted on her instagram about this, and New Gen also posted an apology on their instagram account. Definitely some interesitng things in both posts.
Emma Gee is racist and sexist. "the young white men"...
Imagine if a republican made a comment about "the black women"...
Update wrote:
Some updates to this story. Emma recently posted on her instagram about this, and New Gen also posted an apology on their instagram account. Definitely some interesitng things in both posts.
Emma's Post:New Gen's Post:
When I clicked on Emma’s post I thought it was a NewGen “artsy” apology/statement. Only to realize it was actually Emma scathing the founders lol.
I’m on Emma’s side here, but there are a lot of accusations throw towards Ben without any evidence (except the thot daughter gay son video).
So was it 'taken out of context' or are you apologising and 'now understand we need to be aware of how certain scenarios are interpreted by others'? Make your mind up NewGen.
Absolute waffle response, especially from people supposedly specialising in creative marketing and advertising.
One thought I have about New Gen is that a lot of the stuff they put out is interesting / cool / funny, and it almost feels like a (usually more woke) Barstool vibe but for xc / tf, which is good for the sport. I think it’s fine if they ask the collegians stupid questions and show them doing stupid things.
I just can’t see how it is even an idea to them to do the same with highschoolers - MINORS. They should just stay in the college+ lane. No clue why they’d endanger that with kids.
Honesttrooth wrote:
One thought I have about New Gen is that a lot of the stuff they put out is interesting / cool / funny, and it almost feels like a (usually more woke) Barstool vibe but for xc / tf, which is good for the sport. I think it’s fine if they ask the collegians stupid questions and show them doing stupid things.
I just can’t see how it is even an idea to them to do the same with highschoolers - MINORS. They should just stay in the college+ lane. No clue why they’d endanger that with kids.
What have they put out that’s been interesting/funny?
