Molly Seidel Instagram Post

hunter wheres the coke wrote:

BraveyNation brought to you by Champion wrote:

You just drove jamin bonkers with this. He's changing his Bumble zip code to Flagstaff RN.

Yeah I might do the same lol

btw found and superswiped. Think that's about as far as I'll get though lol

Iron Bars wrote:

Drew Peacock wrote:

Somewhere around 2:05? A lot of physically fit men could do that, but most probably couldn't.

What could she run for 100m? 14 seconds? I think most physically fit man could manage that.

I don't think she could break 15 in the 100m. Her mile PR is around 4:48, so yes a 2:05 may be possible. A guy her age who lifts 3-4x week will definitely be able to run sub 14, thereby destroying her, utterly.

No one's arguing that there aren't active guys out there who could beat her in a sprint. You're as bereft of social skills as the dude that messaged her.

That dentist example has nothing to do with this example. That's a playful joke that is also a real compliment about someones smile.

But Molly's situation is a guy belittling her by joking and assuming that he, who is someone that doesn't even train as a runner (most likely, otherwise he would have known her), could probably beat her even though she is a world class professional and Olympic medalist.

That's why it's so cringe. That's why the post blew up and 51k people liked it and over 1600 people commented on it. Women are used to constantly being talked down for everything because some men just assume (and make asses out of themselves) that they're probably better than them without trying. It's invalidating. Not playful or flirty.

Cause the comment doesn't just exists in a vacuum, it exists in a world where female athletes only get 4% of the sports media coverage and 1% of the sports sponsorship dollars. So yeah hearing stuff like that isn't going to impress your bumble match. It's not just Molly, no female pro runner would be impressed with that ridiculous and offensive pick up line, wether said in person or on an app.

I used to play volleyball in high school and we were one of the top teams in the area. There was talk of having a coed team for a bit (thankfully it never happened) and all of the guys that wanted to join talked about it as if they were guaranteed a spot on the team. They've never played volleyball outside of a few days at gym class, and assumed that they were gonna effortlessly beat out the girls that played and trained year round for their entire lives. We had to point out why their logic was sexist for them to finally understand. But it did get better with most of them once they understood and started self reflecting on just how often the things they used to say to their female friends without thinking was hurtful.

Hopefully Molly shining light on this will open the eyes to young men and boys to think first before opening their mouths and putting down a girl/women with an off handed compliment/joke that is insulting to them. Cause most boys/men do honestly say that like that not even understanding that it's hurtful and sexist. And the good ones will learn to undo their behavior cause they want to.

"I like women that don't take themselves too seriously. It's off putting when they actually believe in themselves and have self respect stand up for themselves to men." Fixed it for you.

How was she supposed to answer that then in your opinion?

All of these men are saying she didn't answer him right, then tell us, what she should have said that would have been acceptable?

Let me guess, you wanted her to stroke his ego and be play down her abilities. Or say something flirty back? Sorry that your role playing fantasy bubble got busted when a awesome women didn't fit your sexist internal narrative that you expected her to fit into.

You cannot infer intent from what the guy posted. If I were to generalize for a moment, most people want to "punch up". If you see LeBron, you challenge him to a shootout, if you see a football player, challenge him to a foot race. This is common, where you know you don't have a shot but you give it a go, OR you fancy yourself and back your strengths to try and take on a Pro.

Malice is in the eyes of the beholder. If you stop for a moment and get out from under the massive chip of "oppression" on your shoulders, you will realize that nobody is out to get you. If anything, apathy is the predominant human condition.

Regarding women's sports and coverage, there is no giant conspiracy. The telecast companies are always in it for the money. If a product does not sell, they will not market it. If it does not sell, it is because the public does not want it. It is economics, not malice.

Ultimately you choose the way you wish to look at the world. You can either live in the present and move on or tack on every slight and historic injustice to be perpetually angry.

All of her stories? There's literally only been two and they were months a part?

I think your people skills are the ones that need work.

aa aa aa dd wrote:

The double-standard here is insane.

Girl: What do you do for a living?

Guy: I’m a professional racecar driver.

Girl: Do you think you can beat me in go-karting??

Guy: I’d f**king hope so.

Imagine the hate that this girl would get if he then posted a screenshot of this to the internet.

fixed

Base Miles wrote:

If you look at the comments Molly notes she would like to have youtube series where she "read [s] mean letsrun comments." So be careful on here, she's watching.

Careful of what? It’s a public forum.

runnereunner22 wrote:

All of her stories? There's literally only been two and they were months a part?

I think your people skills are the ones that need work.

What’s really cringe is you with 12 paragraphs over 3 post attempting to do some PhD level analysis of the situation

lrc historian wrote:

Iron Bars wrote:

I don't think she could break 15 in the 100m. Her mile PR is around 4:48, so yes a 2:05 may be possible. A guy her age who lifts 3-4x week will definitely be able to run sub 14, thereby destroying her, utterly.

No one's arguing that there aren't active guys out there who could beat her in a sprint. You're as bereft of social skills as the dude that messaged her.

The point is that barely active guys could beat her in a sprint and challenging some to a race typically means a sprint, not a marathon, like this:

Maybe the dude was Parker Stinson

Drew Peacock wrote:

lrc historian wrote:

No one's arguing that there aren't active guys out there who could beat her in a sprint. You're as bereft of social skills as the dude that messaged her.

The point is that barely active guys could beat her in a sprint and challenging some to a race typically means a sprint, not a marathon, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjKzKgGazWI

..."No one's arguing that there aren't active guys out there who could beat her in a sprint. You're as bereft of social skills as the dude that messaged her."

I am having a chicken sandwich for lunch.

Iron Bars wrote:

You cannot infer intent from what the guy posted. If I were to generalize for a moment, most people want to "punch up". If you see LeBron, you challenge him to a shootout, if you see a football player, challenge him to a foot race. This is common, where you know you don't have a shot but you give it a go, OR you fancy yourself and back your strengths to try and take on a Pro.

LOL this may be common for idiots. For normal people it is not. The first thing you can think of to do if you meet a famous pro athlete would be to challenge them? Sounds like a good way for that person to end an never continue any further interactions with you.

Iron Bars wrote:

You cannot infer intent from what the guy posted. If I were to generalize for a moment, most people want to "punch up". If you see LeBron, you challenge him to a shootout, if you see a football player, challenge him to a foot race. This is common, where you know you don't have a shot but you give it a go, OR you fancy yourself and back your strengths to try and take on a Pro.

I know the exact kind of little man who does that. It never ends well for that guy. You wind up like LaVar Ball, who clings to acting clueless like dried oatmeal.

ikr, how dare I discuss and message on the "World Famous Message Board"

That's so embarrassing of me to do. I wish I was as cool as you who wants to contribute nothing to the conversation .

People are deff logging on to see your hot takes

You are projecting A LOT in this scenario. Like you said, the comment doesn’t exist in a vacuum - it was said in the context of an opener on an online dating app. Clearly he was just trying to be flirty and jest(hence the wink emoji), not undermine her or insist that he could seriously beat her JUST because he’s a dude.

Side note: The world would be a lot better if everyone didn’t just assume malicious intent behind every single interaction.

runnereunner22 wrote:

ikr, how dare I discuss and message on the "World Famous Message Board"

That's so embarrassing of me to do. I wish I was as cool as you who wants to contribute nothing to the conversation .

People are deff logging on to see your hot takes

Just saying you are trying way too hard to be intuitive.

Spoiler for you. No one is logging in to see what you or I say. Get over yourself before I mansplain why you are emotionally immature.

Is she still running the half this weekend in phx/Mesa?