Getting ready to turn 60, and setting a goal to break 5 minutes in the Mile.

Sure..here was just a little group of old guys who ran a track 5k at a little club meet a week or so ago.

https://www.pvtc.org/results/20211003.html

Here’s a mile race a few months back with some masters in there….

https://mcrrc.org/race-results/2021/08/mcrrc-going-green-1-mile-run-3/

There’s much much more if you just start identifying local clubs that do track events and then start searching….

Interesting discussion. I'm not really qualified enough to say much more, just an old jogger, but will continue to follow this thread with some interest.

old guy II wrote:

seikosha wrote:

I don’t believe there is anyone out there web crawling for all the masters tack events across the world. That’s just a money grab site where people can self report times for I guess personal glory. Looking at it for 30 seconds, I know at least half a dozen local masters runners who could be top 5’s in various events but they aren’t listed.

Can you provide a link to meet results for those other runners? I'm always interested to see what other older runners have been able to do.

Also, in the DC/MD/VA area, there’s a guy who compiles quarterly runner rankings and also best loccal performances every year. There are some flaws to his methodology, but overall, the list is pretty accurate. If anyone else reading this also has a guy compiling stuff like this, I’d love to see it.

Couple links:

Gas in the tank wrote:

Any tips from the older runners out there.

Testosterone injections.

old guy II wrote:

seikosha wrote:

I don’t believe there is anyone out there web crawling for all the masters tack events across the world. That’s just a money grab site where people can self report times for I guess personal glory. Looking at it for 30 seconds, I know at least half a dozen local masters runners who could be top 5’s in various events but they aren’t listed.

Can you provide a link to meet results for those other runners? I'm always interested to see what other older runners have been able to do.

I linked the wrong mile race previously, this one has some faster masters runners.

Not true. You can be a normal person with good aerobic capacity and talent and still run fast in your 50’s and 60’s if your body isn’t beat up.

I started running in my late 20’s. Became competitive at training from 32-34 and ended up running 4:30 in the mile. All this raising a family and a full time job. It was not easy but it is possible with discipline. Now in my early 40’s still jog twice or three times a week but unable to train due to busy life, but I do believe that if I train for a year or so I could run close to my PR.

With fresh legs, little talent and discipline your body can do much more than you think. Obviously you can not compare with elite athletes is just not possible.

Also don’t be innocent age graded times are not accurate they don’t predict or compare your actual performance with your “ young you potential “ total BS I know plenty of good master runners that they project close to WR times but when young they were way far from impressive athletes and they did try hard and if you never tried hard as a youngster well you would never never know of your full potential.

Keep training hard old guys!!!

Not any tips but after reading some of the post I would like to just put my opinion in for what it is worth. I will be soon turning 54 and the thoughts of breaking 5 minutes for the mile have popped in my head again although I must finish my current challenge of 10,000 push-ups, 2,000 pull-ups, 450k of running and 20,000 vertical metres in 60 days!

Tip 1 Do strength training

Tip 2 easy running on your easy days and cross train if you have to

Tip 3 400 and 600m efforts at 3k pace

Tip 4 300/200/150's at faster than 1 mile pace

Tip 5 threshold training is still important

Tip 6 hill repeats will help

Good luck I am hoping to run sub 5 mile in January.

East Coast poor wrote:

Time Waster wrote:

4 pages and still nothing from the OP. What a troll job.

Correct, we've all been trolled.

Stop posting. The OP is a troll and a fraud.

Time Waster wrote:

East Coast poor wrote:

Correct, we've all been trolled.

Stop posting. The OP is a troll and a fraud.

Or a clever ploy to increase the oldies demographic traffic?

Seikosha, thank you for the results links.

coahc wrote:

Not any tips but after reading some of the post I would like to just put my opinion in for what it is worth. I will be soon turning 54 and the thoughts of breaking 5 minutes for the mile have popped in my head again although I must finish my current challenge of 10,000 push-ups, 2,000 pull-ups, 450k of running and 20,000 vertical metres in 60 days!

Tip 1 Do strength training

Tip 2 easy running on your easy days and cross train if you have to

Tip 3 400 and 600m efforts at 3k pace

Tip 4 300/200/150's at faster than 1 mile pace

Tip 5 threshold training is still important

Tip 6 hill repeats will help

Good luck I am hoping to run sub 5 mile in January.

Tip 7 If all else fails, add T injections!

Time Waster wrote:

East Coast poor wrote:

Correct, we've all been trolled.

Stop posting. The OP is a troll and a fraud.

With the utmost respect, I truly believe over half of the threads are started by actual trolls, Mods, or the brothers to get hits (mainly the Mods and the brothers, but they'd deny it).

Trolls like the ones posting on this thread are insecure people who yearn for responses (ignore them). Look at the thread titles and how off the charts alluring they are to solicit interest and response. Unfortunately, that's what this site is.

Since there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list online of the best U.S. masters times, I use this British rankings site to see how my times compare to those of others in my age group. Compared to the U.S., the UK seems to have a more active club racing scene, which may make up for its smaller population. For what it's worth, the site lists 30 M60-64 runners at 5:55 or better for a track mile and 23 for a road mile (some runners may be in both lists) in 2019. None were under 5:10. https://www.runbritainrankings.com/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=Mile&agegroup=V60&sex=M&year=2019

I'll just say that's quite a goal. Jeebus.

JamesD2 wrote:

Since there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list online of the best U.S. masters times, I use this British rankings site to see how my times compare to those of others in my age group. Compared to the U.S., the UK seems to have a more active club racing scene, which may make up for its smaller population. For what it's worth, the site lists 30 M60-64 runners at 5:55 or better for a track mile and 23 for a road mile (some runners may be in both lists) in 2019. None were under 5:10.

https://www.runbritainrankings.com/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=Mile&agegroup=V60&sex=M&year=2019

Wow, great site, JamesD2! Thanks for posting. A wonderful complement to the US website. And I agree, masters Track is--and always has been-- much more active in Great Britain than in the US. All those blimey athletics/harrier clubs they have!

I was checking around on 1500 times for o/65 and saw some discussion on times for an o/60 breaking 5:00. (1500 or mile?). Anyway, years ago when I easily could do that, I paced a guy who had just had his 60th birthday to a sub 5:00 1500 (4:59.6) on the national track in Ireland. The interesting thing was that he had been the carthorse/backpacker in his early days of the (elite) club I ran with in the 90's. He had run 52-53 for 10 miles as a younger man and a 2:50 marathon but as a masters athlete he never competed on track. I trained in his group. One day he asked me to pace him on a 1500 to 5:00. At that time this was easy enough for me so I said sure. He stayed well to 800, then fell back in the 3rd lap. Then to my disbelief (and my attempts at insulting him to run faster) he closed to a sub 5. Mile time would be about 5:20. I still can't believe it. Stubborn boll***s, as we say where I come from. None of the guys we ran with ever believed it happened. But I was there with the watch. The guys that stay motivated, fit and stubborn always have an edge. Chapeau Maurice A.

There is a world of difference between sub-5 in the 1500 and the mile at age 60+. Last year there were at least 13 guys in the US who ran sub-5 for the 1500. There were zero guys who did it for the mile.

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