inagreementwithu wrote:
You will eventually realize that no one cares what your opinion of them is, because everyone does it for a different reason. I like to think I still do it, simply because it is 'what I do....' Good luck.
Perfect.
inagreementwithu wrote:
You will eventually realize that no one cares what your opinion of them is, because everyone does it for a different reason. I like to think I still do it, simply because it is 'what I do....' Good luck.
Perfect.
Nickyyy wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I see your logic as inconsistent
In the context of your ability, you say "ability is what it is." but in the context of age, you say it looks ridiculous to run hard for older runners.
So genetics is not a consideration, you run with what you are given. But age is a consideration, and if you are no longer young, you shouldn't run hard.
I call BS.
So do a lot of others here.
Maybe we should all just do the best with what we are, and ideally encourage others to do the same (or at least not denigrate them and their efforts).
Genetics are not the issue. Surely you are smart enough to grasp this? When older runners post in a thread like this, most of you appear ridiculous also. How is it you want to brag about outrunning a few younger punks? Please tell me this is not so important to you.
Given the time and effort you have invested in this thread the issue is obviously very important to you. Why?
Murph800 wrote:
inagreementwithu wrote:
You will eventually realize that no one cares what your opinion of them is, because everyone does it for a different reason. I like to think I still do it, simply because it is 'what I do....' Good luck.
Perfect.
Oh but if you were more observant you would realize that many of you care what I think and what others think. This thread provides further proof of this.
Let me tell you why I get triggered to the point I am with you and this thread.
You're reducing something innate and natural even when it's not a sport to something that "Old people" should not do.
Prior to March of last year, I would probably let it slide.
And I don't care about your times, experience or potential...
But you are including running into a narrative over the last year that says...let the young people through as we're healthy and let the olds and fats stay out of our way.
Frankly, unless you are at least 40, you have no validity to your perspective.
By middle age, many men and women have transcended muscle loss, fat gain, injuries, maybe a stroke, a heart attack, lung damage, cancer, etc etc....or have had children, or have broken through job losses, homelessness and other issues.
Athletic or not, you're where you are now, but if people in middle age have successfully pulled through any of the problems listed..some with more than one, they should be respected and not be told to quit by an insignificantly insipid junior without the life experience.
Sit down, son. You're on the earth that the old people made for you.
Stoppit Smith you appear to be some sort of self proclaimed internet vigilante wannabe warrior who has nothing but hostility for viewpoints which you find unpalatable. This renders you prone to irrational outbursts of aggression which would surely be muted in person. Continue to engage in your keyboard warrior combat OR start taking your psyche meds.
If you are young, perhaps stop trolling. Any runner is a part of the community, no matter where they started, or where they stand currently. It is the job of the running community to support them, no matter who they are. Disrespectful, and disgraceful is what this thread is. This thread, and each subsequent post by 'Nickyy' only reveals how ignorant and idiotic this thread is.
If you are old, why are you on a distance running forum anyway? If you are, truly, you would reside elsewhere, perhaps on Reddit, but it is simply idiotic to go to a home of serious runners and retirees and shout nonsense.
-EGF
What you cannot understand EGF is that my version of supporting clowns like you is to try to alert you to how you are embarrassing yourself. It is intended as a favor but perhaps not well received.
Yes.
Yes....and dare to dream.
And I'll continue.
Nickyyy is a BOT -
Notice the stereotyped repetition of words and phrases "Pathetic" "proves my point"
every reply generates another BOT splat
Ignore it and it will go away
dipsey wrote:
Nickyyy wrote:
Genetics are not the issue. Surely you are smart enough to grasp this? When older runners post in a thread like this, most of you appear ridiculous also. How is it you want to brag about outrunning a few younger punks? Please tell me this is not so important to you.
Given the time and effort you have invested in this thread the issue is obviously very important to you. Why?
^This. Come on Nicky - why are you still spending hours on this thread? What is your goal? To persuade old people to stop competing? To make fun of old people because you disapprove of their motivation for running? Why do you even care?
sad thread wrote:
This is a sad thread. I’m 41. I still run 40-50 miles per week and run intervals on the track. People think I’m 25 years old because I’ve kept myself in great shape. Most people my age do not take care of themselves and it shows.
I may not beat college runners in a local 5k (I did win a half marathon two years ago) but every day on the trail, road, or track is a good day and important for our health. When I see 50 year old men dusting dudes in a race of any distance I’m impressed. It’s so much harder to keep that speed and stay injury free as our bodies become less reliable.
I have a good career and a family. I would feel differently about this thread if I did not put those things first. It’s third on my list, and I’m proud I can beat a lot of younger runners with my “C” game. Nothing pathetic about that at all.
+ 1 on this.
I'm also in my 40's, as is my wife. We met in our 30's at a running meetup group with people of all abilities. I ran the competitively in the 800m masters circuit up until three years ago and now have moved to longer stuff for fun and I'm enjoying it. I'm always finishing in the Top 10 as an old guy and it's a lot of fun gunning down the young kids or pushing them in the last mile.
Wife and I have a 6 year old and while we won't be in the Olympics like 99.9% of the runners on this board, we believe we are setting an example for our child who attends our races and is now involved with kid races himself. Running isn't all about us. Our son is learning what it's like to lose and win and how to compete. Whether he sticks with running or not, we are not concerned about. We are concerned about accountability and work ethic. And he's so supportive of us, especially when cheering for his mom when she finishes a local 10K. I can only hope some of you get to experience this when you get older.
It's disturbs me to think that running competitively should be reserved to younger runners and I'm willing to bet 70% of those young runners won't even compete in their mid-30's and onwards because they got fat, slow, or they are worried about what other people think. Listen, nobody cares that you got 17th place running 16:58 at a district meet your senior year in 2009. This way of thinking needs to end. Embrace the challenge and change that comes with age.
People like this probably also think we shouldn't have the Special Olympics either because nobody competing in those events run "elite" times.
Another one who misses the point. It not is a meritocracy saturated with elitism which matters to me. Please learn how to comprehend what you read. That point has somehow eluded most of you despite frequent repetition.
Nickyyy wrote:
Another one who misses the point. It not is a meritocracy saturated with elitism which matters to me. Please learn how to comprehend what you read. That point has somehow eluded most of you despite frequent repetition.
If you re-read my post, I wasn't addressing you. I was addressing the poster "sad thread". But since I'm here...
"When older people take running seriously it appears pathetic. This sport is for younger people. For older people it should just be a recreational hobby."
You are entitled to an opinion. Just acknowledge that others will have an opinion that differs from your own. Are you able to accept that? I want you to answer that.
Cool story!
What are the consequences of taking action vs. not?
5y25y3 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Another lower-order primate coprophiliac speaks.
You are like that poster, Harambe, calling others fear mongers.
You got called first and then you think you can just turn it around, poo flinger?
You are the poo flinging monkey. Like Harambe.
You got owned.
Still haven't completed your toilet training, I see. Fascinated by turds.
Yeap wrote:
sad thread wrote:
This is a sad thread. I’m 41. I still run 40-50 miles per week and run intervals on the track. People think I’m 25 years old because I’ve kept myself in great shape. Most people my age do not take care of themselves and it shows.
I may not beat college runners in a local 5k (I did win a half marathon two years ago) but every day on the trail, road, or track is a good day and important for our health. When I see 50 year old men dusting dudes in a race of any distance I’m impressed. It’s so much harder to keep that speed and stay injury free as our bodies become less reliable.
I have a good career and a family. I would feel differently about this thread if I did not put those things first. It’s third on my list, and I’m proud I can beat a lot of younger runners with my “C” game. Nothing pathetic about that at all.
+ 1 on this.
I'm also in my 40's, as is my wife. We met in our 30's at a running meetup group with people of all abilities. I ran the competitively in the 800m masters circuit up until three years ago and now have moved to longer stuff for fun and I'm enjoying it. I'm always finishing in the Top 10 as an old guy and it's a lot of fun gunning down the young kids or pushing them in the last mile.
Wife and I have a 6 year old and while we won't be in the Olympics like 99.9% of the runners on this board, we believe we are setting an example for our child who attends our races and is now involved with kid races himself. Running isn't all about us. Our son is learning what it's like to lose and win and how to compete. Whether he sticks with running or not, we are not concerned about. We are concerned about accountability and work ethic. And he's so supportive of us, especially when cheering for his mom when she finishes a local 10K. I can only hope some of you get to experience this when you get older.
It's disturbs me to think that running competitively should be reserved to younger runners and I'm willing to bet 70% of those young runners won't even compete in their mid-30's and onwards because they got fat, slow, or they are worried about what other people think. Listen, nobody cares that you got 17th place running 16:58 at a district meet your senior year in 2009. This way of thinking needs to end. Embrace the challenge and change that comes with age.
People like this probably also think we shouldn't have the Special Olympics either because nobody competing in those events run "elite" times.
Except that a 16:58 5k is more impressive than your 6 minute pace 10k where you got top 10.
High school 90% of the competition is training as hard as you. In a fun-run, youre up against a bunch of randos, so a higher place finish isnt as much of an accomplishment. Moreover, the competitions in high school simply carry more significance than a charity road race.
Why do you never see guys like Ryan Hall or Haile Gebrselassie run a local 5k at a much slower pace than what they used to? Maybe because they ran as fast as they could when they were young? Maybe because the true purpose of the sport is to win and beat the best runners, with zero conditions such as "in my age group" / "in my region" / "on this hilly course" / "in this random 10k in my suburb that hardly anyone runs in"
Nickyyy wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I see your logic as inconsistent
In the context of your ability, you say "ability is what it is." but in the context of age, you say it looks ridiculous to run hard for older runners.
So genetics is not a consideration, you run with what you are given. But age is a consideration, and if you are no longer young, you shouldn't run hard.
I call BS.
So do a lot of others here.
Maybe we should all just do the best with what we are, and ideally encourage others to do the same (or at least not denigrate them and their efforts).
Genetics are not the issue. Surely you are smart enough to grasp this? When older runners post in a thread like this, most of you appear ridiculous also. How is it you want to brag about outrunning a few younger punks? Please tell me this is not so important to you.
I don't want to "brag about" anything. I want to do it.
Can you not understand the satisfaction derived from running, for example, a sub3 marathon in your mid 50s? And the joy of the training and camaraderie with fellow runners that leads up to it?
To me what makes no sense is competing in college or being a "serious" runner in one's 20s or 30s. In college, study. After college, develop a career and build an family. When those building blocks are in place, just run, baby! And never stop.
Running is a gift wasted on the young.
Bill Rodgers and Joan Benoit continued as age-groupers. They aren't considered pathetic by the running community as far as I know. Actually quite the opposite.
BTW, what happened to Nickyy, Nickyyy????
Grassrunner wrote:
BTW, what happened to Nickyy, Nickyyy????
One of the jealous ones registered Nickyy. This happens frequently to some of us. Someone wants to be us so they register our username, hoping to either censor us or have our greatness rub off on them.