This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
You can put forth statements that are true ... that have no relations to the conclusions you draw.
"The sky is blue on sunny days" is true! "The sky is blue, therefore the stars are fake" is not a defensible conclusion... but I could do what you are doing and say "prove that my facts are in dispute, is the sky not blue??"
Of course this video is all BS, right? The bottom line is that anything that doesn't agree with your ignorant ideology is false, right? Watch the video and learn.
Don't think right wing, left wing or even dead center neutral.
Open your closed mind and learn something today. There are about 5 of you that really need help, serious help.
You took the jab, don't take it out on others for your poor choices. No person would ever wish that you got sick or died, that's ludicrous on too many levels to discuss.
If you are happy with your choice, then let it be. Why are you incessantly defending your poor choice?
A video from YouTube or GooTube or NoTube doesn't matter. It's the information that is being shared and the facts that are described. Voiding info because of a liberal site like YouTube doesn't make you look too bright sir.
Watch the video mate and learn. Prediction: You won't watch it;)
McCullough was fired from Baylor for going looney. He then desperately tried to pretend he was still affiliated with them. Baylor sued to get him to stop lying about that and won.
He has no credibility. He’s making stuff up to scam people like you.
You can put forth statements that are true ... that have no relations to the conclusions you draw.
"The sky is blue on sunny days" is true! "The sky is blue, therefore the stars are fake" is not a defensible conclusion... but I could do what you are doing and say "prove that my facts are in dispute, is the sky not blue??"
Of course this video is all BS, right? The bottom line is that anything that doesn't agree with your ignorant ideology is false, right? Watch the video and learn.
Don't think right wing, left wing or even dead center neutral.
Open your closed mind and learn something today. There are about 5 of you that really need help, serious help.
You took the jab, don't take it out on others for your poor choices. No person would ever wish that you got sick or died, that's ludicrous on too many levels to discuss.
If you are happy with your choice, then let it be. Why are you incessantly defending your poor choice?
A video from YouTube or GooTube or NoTube doesn't matter. It's the information that is being shared and the facts that are described. Voiding info because of a liberal site like YouTube doesn't make you look too bright sir.
Watch the video mate and learn. Prediction: You won't watch it;)
I don’t watch hour long youtube videos with the same amount of information as 1 page of text.
You can present evidence is a better way. I promise.
There is no evidence of mass vaccine injury and death.
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Of course this video is all BS, right? The bottom line is that anything that doesn't agree with your ignorant ideology is false, right? Watch the video and learn.
Don't think right wing, left wing or even dead center neutral.
Open your closed mind and learn something today. There are about 5 of you that really need help, serious help.
You took the jab, don't take it out on others for your poor choices. No person would ever wish that you got sick or died, that's ludicrous on too many levels to discuss.
If you are happy with your choice, then let it be. Why are you incessantly defending your poor choice?
A video from YouTube or GooTube or NoTube doesn't matter. It's the information that is being shared and the facts that are described. Voiding info because of a liberal site like YouTube doesn't make you look too bright sir.
Watch the video mate and learn. Prediction: You won't watch it;)
This was a very interesting and informative video. I got around to listening to it today while mowing my field. It's amazing that McCullough can just cite reference after reference without notes. I plan to read a couple of the papers he mentioned. Thanks for posting the link to it.
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You know your "debate me bro" challenge is lame when even Mark Cuban can take you down.
I actually would like Hotez to debate RFK, Jr. Not because there is a chance that Hotez would win and convince anti-vaxxers that they are wrong. There is no chance of that. Anti-vaxxers operate from the standpoint of starting with the conclusion that modern medicine is inherently bad and work backwards to patch together a tapestry of cherry picked quotes from studies and quack fringe "experts" like the GBD gooberheads to feed themselves a constant stream of confirmation bias. I would like to see Hotez debate RFJ, Jr. to cement the fact that RFJ, Jr. is as hard into his anti-vaxxer BS as he has ever been and should not be taken seriously as a left alternative to Biden. I have seen too many progressives getting excited about a possible RFK, Jr. run at Biden that would force Biden to move back more to the left (after Ron Klain left, Biden has been on a steady tack to the center-right). But the progressive flirtation with RFK, Jr. is based on the possibility that the RFK, Jr. who started Riverkeepers and was actually a very good advocate for the environment would put his anti-vaxxer BS at least in the back seat. His appearance on Rogan shows that the opposite is morel likely to happen. RFK, Jr. sees this as his big chance to mainstream his anti-vaxxer view and seems very ready to let his positions on the environment take a back seat. Hopefully, this would finally get progressives off their butts to make sure that the left isn't taken over by a horseshoe right wing with kooks like RFK, Jr., Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and Jimmy Dore. These clowns have compromised any semblance of progressive principles for clicks as they try to make a living on substack, youtube, etc.
RFKJr is a Steve Bannon created and funded election fucqery scheme. He is a chaos agent. Just like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn. NO Labels is also a chaos scheme to help elect Trump. The more people talk about the chaos agents and their topics the less people live in reality. The less people are focused on what is actually good for them or the country. The job market, the economy, healthcare, education. None of these chaos have any chance of getting elected. That is not the goal in any way shape or form. They want to muck up the election. And of course, they want to grift.
You're a sheep and beholden to Big Pharma. I bet you still wear a face diaper.
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Untrue. Only one of those citations has been discussed before that I’ve been a part of, the 2021 paper. I also do not agree that “breadth” is better with the vaccines or that natural, cell-mediated immunity wanes “significantly.” The only thing I’ve really agreed with you on, per that CDC paper you once posted, is that three doses of the vaccine PLUS infection is marginally better than NO doses of the vaccine plus infection. Marginally, for the time frames they assessed.
It’s actually quite incredible to me that people can’t agree or accept that the vaccines were necessary and even a good idea for a high risk portion of the population, which was easily assessed, but unnecessary for most others. Like, both positions can be true, but one either has to go ALL IN on being pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine.
No, I go all in on the evidence. The evidence supports the vaccines for all groups for which they were approved
Espescially seeing the risks that unvaxxed COVID infections have. Cardiovascular issues. Autoimmunity. All because people saw a meme about vaccines. Pretty tragic.
Liar. You make any excuse imaginable to exclude evidence not approved or funded by big Pharma. “It’s a video - 😩”. “That web site once posted something I think is racist, therefore everything else is meaningless - 😭” Sometimes you use the classic loser response and just name call. But mostly you just ignore anything that conflicts with your programming and pretend it doesn’t exist.
Oooooh fluoride. 1992 called, they want their conspiracy back
1964 (Dr. Strangelove) and earlier called, they want you, the modern medical tyranny statist, to have a better grasp of history. Fluoride was a heated debate in the 1950s in the USA, with all the best people back then being against forced medication (best case) of the population, without consent.
The old "conspiracies" never really go away. The powerful people who pulled off the last "conspiracy" just move on to new crimes against humanity, that little fascists will always eagerly accept and justify, because authority says so.
You know, leaving the science behind, this really is the biggest travesty of all during the charade. I’m sure the gap between public and private/charter is even wider.
My wife repeatedly reminds me that the biggest mistake we ever made as parents was putting our kids in public school. The downward trajectory was really exacerbated during Covid. We weren’t out of masks for two full academic years.
You know, leaving the science behind, this really is the biggest travesty of all during the charade. I’m sure the gap between public and private/charter is even wider.
My wife repeatedly reminds me that the biggest mistake we ever made as parents was putting our kids in public school. The downward trajectory was really exacerbated during Covid. We weren’t out of masks for two full academic years.
Agreed. We should spend much more to preemptively develop vaccines faster so we aren’t as scared for the next pandemic.