Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

WhatDaFuq? wrote:

ceccione wrote:

You need evidence. Spring 2022 is not evidence. Pew admits this in their methodology:

Interviews were conducted from Feb. 14 to May 11, 2022, with most taking place after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which began Feb. 24

The world doesn't know the details at the start. They only know that america is the biggest threat every year, without the details of their latest fake war for oil/gas.

Pew needs to do it now, because many globally (especially in Europe) know why it happened now, in 2023. (i.e. the truth).

Most importantly, every year the world votes the same. They do this when america isn't provoking Russia into a fake war for LNG control to Europe. The global default every year is, america is the biggest threat to world.

Link:brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/

Right. You need evidence. Evidence that Sweden didn't blow up Nordstream. How else could they be certain it was international sabotage unless they were responsible?

Newname wrote:

GoodGollyMissLolly wrote:

p.s. reported for being off topic.

How's this for on topic?

Most interesting to me is the way Nuland speaks about the situation, particularly about Klitschko, a former champion boxer who's emerged as a key opposition leader who supports Ukrainian integration with the EU and is against the current government's alliance with Russia. "I don't think Klitsch should go into the government," she says. "I don't think it's a good idea."
Her strong statement of preference for how Ukraine's government should be formed – and apparent confidence that the US has major influence over that – is a reminder of the disconnect between US government assurances that it doesn't meddle in nations' internal politics and its actual behavior (White House spokesman Jay Carney repeats this canard in his comment on the tape.) This was not a conversation analyzing unfolding events and how to respond to what comes next. This was about molding a situation according to US interests.

WhatDaFuq? wrote:

Newname wrote:

How's this for on topic?

Most interesting to me is the way Nuland speaks about the situation, particularly about Klitschko, a former champion boxer who's emerged as a key opposition leader who supports Ukrainian integration with the EU and is against the current government's alliance with Russia. "I don't think Klitsch should go into the government," she says. "I don't think it's a good idea."
Her strong statement of preference for how Ukraine's government should be formed – and apparent confidence that the US has major influence over that – is a reminder of the disconnect between US government assurances that it doesn't meddle in nations' internal politics and its actual behavior (White House spokesman Jay Carney repeats this canard in his comment on the tape.) This was not a conversation analyzing unfolding events and how to respond to what comes next. This was about molding a situation according to US interests.

Is this from the Tucker Carlson video? If not, who's saying this?

So, she's strongly against somebody who supports Ukrainian integration with the EU and is against a Ukrainian-Russian alliance, but also instigated a coup to keep Ukraine and Russia from becoming closer? You're falling for more propaganda Carmine.

WhatDaFuq? wrote:

ceccione wrote:

You need evidence. Spring 2022 is not evidence. Pew admits this in their methodology:

Interviews were conducted from Feb. 14 to May 11, 2022, with most taking place after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which began Feb. 24

The world doesn't know the details at the start. They only know that america is the biggest threat every year, without the details of their latest fake war for oil/gas.

Pew needs to do it now, because many globally (especially in Europe) know why it happened now, in 2023. (i.e. the truth).

Most importantly, every year the world votes the same. They do this when america isn't provoking Russia into a fake war for LNG control to Europe. The global default every year is, america is the biggest threat to world.

Link:brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/

Right. You need evidence. Evidence that Sweden didn't blow up Nordstream. How else could they be certain it was international sabotage unless they were responsible?

ceccione wrote:

Oops.YouAreWrong.Again. wrote:

Just waiting for evidence that any country said that they were going to "blow up" the Nord Stream pipeline. You put those exact words in quotes. Just post the clip of Biden saying the US was going to "blow up" the Nord Stream pipeline and I'll conceded the point.

Point conceded. Thanks!

Both Nordstreams were blown up but the sheeple here can't find another country that said what america said:

In February this year, a couple of weeks before the invasion, Biden addressed Nord Stream 2. He ominously said that “if Russia invaded Ukraine, there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

The reporter then asked how Biden would do it, since it was a deal between Germany and Russia. Biden paused, and then said in a villainous manner, “I promise you, we will be able to do it.”

You sheeple also can't find another country confirming america blew them up:

Former defense minister of Poland and current EU Parliament member, Sikorski, tweeted “Thank You. USA” with a photo of the explosion of Nord Stream!

Link:euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/27/why-did-...

WhatDaFuq? wrote:

ceccione wrote:

Point conceded. Thanks!

Both Nordstreams were blown up but the sheeple here can't find another country that said what america said:

In February this year, a couple of weeks before the invasion, Biden addressed Nord Stream 2. He ominously said that “if Russia invaded Ukraine, there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

The reporter then asked how Biden would do it, since it was a deal between Germany and Russia. Biden paused, and then said in a villainous manner, “I promise you, we will be able to do it.”

You sheeple also can't find another country confirming america blew them up:

Former defense minister of Poland and current EU Parliament member, Sikorski, tweeted “Thank You. USA” with a photo of the explosion of Nord Stream!

Link:euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/27/why-did-...

So, you're still not able to provide any evidence that the US "blew up" the pipeline, as you claimed. Thanks for conceding the point.

p.s. I'm hoping the US did blow up Nord Stream 2. You just haven't provided any evidence that they did.