2019 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Shadow Lurker wrote:

Anotherbrickinthewall wrote:

A recent study by Division I AD's revealed that over 40% of the track and cross country jobs open in a 5 year span were part-time or volunteer. The average pay for the low paid ones (excluding volunteer positions) was $16,437. Yet everyday, every year about this time this thread is full of posters who think gaining one of these positions is their "dream job."

There are less than 50 decent (where pay equals or exceeds median pay for those with Bachelors degree) paying head jobs in D1 and less than 100 decent paying assistant coaching positions and half of those are non-distance yet its the distance jobs that draw the most intense interest.

Then once someone is in one of these coveted positions they face an onslaught of libel and slander that approaches a Trump tweet storm. Why in the hell does anyone want to be subjected to that for so little pay and appreciation?

I lucked into 4 D1 jobs, 1 head position and 3 assistant positions with 2 in Power 5 leagues. Coached many All-Americans and Olympians and won team conference titles. Had a chance to coach some wonderful people and outstanding athletes but reality is that making it a career means sacrificing family and personal life to a degree that is obsessive compulsive or narcissistic. You spend your life sacrificing everything to help others and one day you wake up and go who in this rat race is concerned about MY well-being?

Track is better at all other levels when it comes to coaching than D1. I have done virtually all and have close friends who have shared experiences across various levels and we all say the same. D1 is the worst representation of our sport from middle school to professional.

Personally, my favorite part about the profession is that once you’ve found your way into one of these coveted positions after toiling in broke obscurity for years & licking more buttholes than one can count, you can & likely will be fired on a whim whenever your head coach or AD changes through no fault of your own. Even if you have been doing a fantastic job. Still, all of you are going to sign up for this & feel indignant when it happens to you lololololololol. Cheers & carry on!

That's why D1 isn't the dream. I seriously laugh at all these anonymous poster when ask "anyone have insight on the job or front runners" like if they have a shot or if that's a dream opportunity to get. d1 isn't the dream or living. It sacrifices personal health and well being, and like 'anotherbrickinthewall' said borderline narcissistic.

You can win XYZ championships, but years of XYZ losing seasons and you get cut lose. For what.. for 30-40k for a "d1" job just to say you're a d1 coach. Same as to what I say kids I recruit. They are a 1:56/4:25/9:45 kid for example..saying they are only going d1 and they go to a lower tier crappy school..just to say they are d1 runners.

I coach a Juco school.. great setup 2 year school, kids in and out.. and more than the majority of kids are going d1. And guess what.. I make more than 65k in a low cost of living area at that. If you want to coach and make a difference do it where you can truly do that and make a good living. Why take a 30k job just to be d1

That's why d1 isn't the dream wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

Personally, my favorite part about the profession is that once you’ve found your way into one of these coveted positions after toiling in broke obscurity for years & licking more buttholes than one can count, you can & likely will be fired on a whim whenever your head coach or AD changes through no fault of your own. Even if you have been doing a fantastic job. Still, all of you are going to sign up for this & feel indignant when it happens to you lololololololol. Cheers & carry on!

That's why D1 isn't the dream. I seriously laugh at all these anonymous poster when ask "anyone have insight on the job or front runners" like if they have a shot or if that's a dream opportunity to get. d1 isn't the dream or living. It sacrifices personal health and well being, and like 'anotherbrickinthewall' said borderline narcissistic.

You can win XYZ championships, but years of XYZ losing seasons and you get cut lose. For what.. for 30-40k for a "d1" job just to say you're a d1 coach. Same as to what I say kids I recruit. They are a 1:56/4:25/9:45 kid for example..saying they are only going d1 and they go to a lower tier crappy school..just to say they are d1 runners.

I coach a Juco school.. great setup 2 year school, kids in and out.. and more than the majority of kids are going d1. And guess what.. I make more than 65k in a low cost of living area at that. If you want to coach and make a difference do it where you can truly do that and make a good living. Why take a 30k job just to be d1

RockHeavy wrote:

That's why D1 isn't the dream. I seriously laugh at all these anonymous poster when ask "anyone have insight on the job or front runners" like if they have a shot or if that's a dream opportunity to get. d1 isn't the dream or living. It sacrifices personal health and well being, and like 'anotherbrickinthewall' said borderline narcissistic.

You can win XYZ championships, but years of XYZ losing seasons and you get cut lose. For what.. for 30-40k for a "d1" job just to say you're a d1 coach. Same as to what I say kids I recruit. They are a 1:56/4:25/9:45 kid for example..saying they are only going d1 and they go to a lower tier crappy school..just to say they are d1 runners.

I coach a Juco school.. great setup 2 year school, kids in and out.. and more than the majority of kids are going d1. And guess what.. I make more than 65k in a low cost of living area at that. If you want to coach and make a difference do it where you can truly do that and make a good living. Why take a 30k job just to be d1

Hey man, thanks for posting this a second time, to make sure we all got to read it. We are all really proud of you for making 65K in a low cost of living area. Have you let your mom know? What about everybody at your 15 year high school reunion?

That's why d1 isn't the dream wrote:

Shadow Lurker wrote:

Personally, my favorite part about the profession is that once you’ve found your way into one of these coveted positions after toiling in broke obscurity for years & licking more buttholes than one can count, you can & likely will be fired on a whim whenever your head coach or AD changes through no fault of your own. Even if you have been doing a fantastic job. Still, all of you are going to sign up for this & feel indignant when it happens to you lololololololol. Cheers & carry on!

That's why D1 isn't the dream. I seriously laugh at all these anonymous poster when ask "anyone have insight on the job or front runners" like if they have a shot or if that's a dream opportunity to get. d1 isn't the dream or living. It sacrifices personal health and well being, and like 'anotherbrickinthewall' said borderline narcissistic.

You can win XYZ championships, but years of XYZ losing seasons and you get cut lose. For what.. for 30-40k for a "d1" job just to say you're a d1 coach. Same as to what I say kids I recruit. They are a 1:56/4:25/9:45 kid for example..saying they are only going d1 and they go to a lower tier crappy school..just to say they are d1 runners.

I coach a Juco school.. great setup 2 year school, kids in and out.. and more than the majority of kids are going d1. And guess what.. I make more than 65k in a low cost of living area at that. If you want to coach and make a difference do it where you can truly do that and make a good living. Why take a 30k job just to be d1