Official Covid Vaccine thread

PCRF-Guy wrote:

fisky wrote:

Tiffany Dover, a nurse at CHI Memorial Hospital, Chattanooga, is one of the first persons to get vaxxed on live television. She promptly faints. Shortly afterwards she gives a brief interview and then... she disappears! Social media and instagram posts stop. NBC sends a crew to find her and fails. Can't find her at work or at home. How hard could it be to track down a person if you know where she supposedly works and where she supposedly lives. Someone would have seen her.

Did she die from the vaccine? Did she suffer a chronic adverse event? Did Pfizer pay her to keep quiet. This is just bizarre.

Link:dossier.substack.com/p/nowhere-to-be-f...

Just asking questions... completely made up BS. "Did she die of the vaccine" and was she "paid off by Pfizer". She was hounded by antivaxxers and went into hiding.

Link:www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/ti...

fisky wrote:

PCRF-Guy wrote:

Just asking questions... completely made up BS. "Did she die of the vaccine" and was she "paid off by Pfizer". She was hounded by antivaxxers and went into hiding.

Link:www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/ti...

I read the article. You have to admit that this was a bizarre story. It still is.

She left the hospital in 2021 so she no longer needed to follow their edicts. She didn't speak out until April 2023! This same reporter traveled to her home to interview her in, I think 2022, and couldn't find her. Couldn't even get a telephoto picture of her.

That is bizarre. The fact that people speculate on why she disappeared is normal. That's on her. She could have easily appeared live on her local TV station back in 2021 to clear this up. They would have LOVED to have her story, even if it was only to say, "Hey, look at me... I'm fine!" She didn't.

Newname wrote:

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Based on what?

If there were anything remotely approaching 1 in 8 rate of significant adverse events during the trials, why don't we see that in the mass vaccination campaign?

For what it's worth, I know a few people that were involved in covid vaccine trials and there is inconvenience in making the required follow-ups and it is this that is mostly responsible for trial drop outs.

Here is the comment: He said nothing about 1 in 8 getting significant adverse events.

You want us to believe that after signing up for a chance to get a vaccine against the great pandemic in modern history, after undergoing a screening process, after waiting to get the results of the screening process, after waiting to actually get the first dose of the vaccine, and after getting this first dose that 1 in 8 participants were "lost" to ALL followup contact. Not even follow-up phone calls were documented. Do you honestly want us to believe that with BILLIONS of dollars on the line for vaccine approval, that Pfizer would simply allow their participating clinics to say, "Oh well, they didn't come back and we sent them an email. They must be lost."

fisky wrote:

PCRF-Guy wrote:

Just asking questions... completely made up BS. "Did she die of the vaccine" and was she "paid off by Pfizer". She was hounded by antivaxxers and went into hiding.

Link:www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/ti...

I read the article. You have to admit that this was a bizarre story. It still is.

She left the hospital in 2021 so she no longer needed to follow their edicts. She didn't speak out until April 2023! This same reporter traveled to her home to interview her in, I think 2022, and couldn't find her. Couldn't even get a telephoto picture of her.

That is bizarre. The fact that people speculate on why she disappeared is normal. That's on her. She could have easily appeared live on her local TV station back in 2021 to clear this up. They would have LOVED to have her story, even if it was only to say, "Hey, look at me... I'm fine!" She didn't.

fisky wrote:

Would someone explain what this email says. It's from page 2286 of the FOIA request for Dr. Fauci's emails. Note that the date of the email is 11Mar2020.

-----excerpt begins-----

From:
Sent:
To:
(b)(6)
Wed, 11 Mar 2020 06:19:13 -0400
NIAID Public Inquiries
Subject: Fwd: Coronavirus bioweapon production method
Sent from my iPhone
Beg in forwarded message:
From: Adam Gaertner (b) (6)
Date: March 11, 2020 at 6:16:40 AM EDT
,------- --;;-~ To: "Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NlAID) (E]" (b)(
Subject: Coronavirus bioweapon production method
Hello Anthony ,
This is how the virus was created .
Inte rvirion Fusion. HIV-luc(ACE2) (500 ng ofp24) was mixed with 1,000 ng of p24
of HIV-gfp particles incorporating ASLV-A envelope, SARS-CoV S prote in, or
both envelopes in PBS at 4 °C for 30 min to allow bind ing. Samples were raised to
37°C for 15 min to allow for conformational rearrangements. Virions were adjusted
to the desired pH with 0.1 M citric acid. PBS, TPCK-trypsin (final concentration 10
~tg/ml), CTSL , cathepsin B (CTSB) (fina l concentrations 2 ~tg/ml) or CTSL buffer
alone was then added . Recombinant CTSL (R &D Systems) was preactivated by
incubat ion for 15 min at 10 µg/ml in 50 mM Mes, pH 6.0, on ice. Recombinant
CTSB (R &D Systems) was preactiv ated in 25 mM Mes, 5 mM OTT, pH 5.0, for 30
min at 25°C. After a 10-min incubation at 25°C, proteolysis was halted by the
addition of 300 µ1 ofDMEMIO conta ining leupept in (25 µg/ml) and STI (75 µg/ml).
Virions were then incubated at 37°C for 30 min to allow membrane fusion. 100 µl of
the virion mix ture was added in quadrupl icate to HeLa- Tva cells pretreated for 1 h
with leupepti n (20 ~tg/ml). The cells were spin-infect ed and incubated at 37°C for 5

Link:s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2079356...

PCRF-Guy wrote:

Nothing in the way people treated her online was ‘normal’. No one would’ve ‘loved’ her story, they would’ve called her a liar, or a shill who was paid off by big pharma, or the classic ‘it’s not really her, that’s a stunt double in good makeup’. They used that one for Damar Hamlin when he showed up to watch the Bills playoff games. Again, ‘that’s on her’ means you still don’t understand that your assumptions are not as worthy of discussion as you think. You’re again assuming it’s her responsibility to disprove BS people say about her because they’re ‘just asking questions’.

She wasn’t in hiding because of ‘hospital edicts’.. it had nothing to do with her being employed or not. She was in hiding because of antivaxxers hounding her nonstop.

fisky wrote:

PCRF-Guy wrote:

Nothing in the way people treated her online was ‘normal’. No one would’ve ‘loved’ her story, they would’ve called her a liar, or a shill who was paid off by big pharma, or the classic ‘it’s not really her, that’s a stunt double in good makeup’. They used that one for Damar Hamlin when he showed up to watch the Bills playoff games. Again, ‘that’s on her’ means you still don’t understand that your assumptions are not as worthy of discussion as you think. You’re again assuming it’s her responsibility to disprove BS people say about her because they’re ‘just asking questions’.

She wasn’t in hiding because of ‘hospital edicts’.. it had nothing to do with her being employed or not. She was in hiding because of antivaxxers hounding her nonstop.

Did you listen to that 50 minute podcast? Serious question... did you?

I did. I just finished it. It left me shaking my head. This is still a bizarre story. She left the hospital in Jan 2022. She didn't speak out until that podcast in April 2023. When asked why it took her so long, she said, "I was in a dark place."

Ah, well, that totally explains everything... not. /sarc

She left the hospital in, apparently, January 2022. That was right in the middle of the big Omicron breakout. If her story is true, then she should have come out then to support the vaccine. She did not. She could have reached millions of people with her pro-vaccine message.

Would it have made a difference with even one person? I don't know. I would like to think if the entire internet was using my story wrongly in a way that could hurt other people, I'd like to think that even if I was "in a dark place," I'd try to get my true story out... especially if I was a nurse and my story might save lives.

If her story is true, then she *might* have a lawsuit against the hospital for supressing her first amendment rights of free speech. But that doesn't explain why she remained disappeared from Jan 2022 to April 2023.

Like I said, this is a bizarre story.

fisky wrote:

For those who wonder why some of us were skeptical of the CDC/WHO from the beginnings of the pandemic, look at this.

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...Among patients over age 65 who were vented, the mortality rate was 97.2%

"The recommendation to place COVID patients on mechanical ventilation as a first-line response came from the World Health Organization, which allegedly based its guidance on experiences and recommendations from doctors in China. But venting COVID patients wasn’t recommended because it increased survival. It was to protect health care workers by isolating the virus inside the vent machine."

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It was obvious from the beginning that the CDC/WHO were pathetically incompetent. Instead of testing alternatives, they just TOOK THE WORD OF CHINA that ventilation was the way to go. How is that "follow the science?!" It's purely anecdotal. As a results, 74% of 18-64 ventilated in NYC died!

Scientists should have been field testing or even challenge testing treatments that were found to be working in some locations... HCQ or IVM and zinc, vitamin D, etc. Instead, the CDC stayed with the ventilation protocol even when it has been shown not to work effectively.

I know that provaxxers will discount all of this. So be it. I'm sharing my rationale to take a different approach. You do you and best of luck for no health issues in the future.

(This article will only be available for a couple of days and then it will be deleted so if you're interested, don't delay in reading it."

Link:articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/ar...

PCRF-Guy wrote:

fisky wrote:

Would someone explain what this email says. It's from page 2286 of the FOIA request for Dr. Fauci's emails. Note that the date of the email is 11Mar2020.

-----excerpt begins-----

From:
Sent:
To:
(b)(6)
Wed, 11 Mar 2020 06:19:13 -0400
NIAID Public Inquiries
Subject: Fwd: Coronavirus bioweapon production method
Sent from my iPhone
Beg in forwarded message:
From: Adam Gaertner (b) (6)
Date: March 11, 2020 at 6:16:40 AM EDT
,------- --;;-~ To: "Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NlAID) (E]" (b)(
Subject: Coronavirus bioweapon production method
Hello Anthony ,
This is how the virus was created .
Inte rvirion Fusion. HIV-luc(ACE2) (500 ng ofp24) was mixed with 1,000 ng of p24
of HIV-gfp particles incorporating ASLV-A envelope, SARS-CoV S prote in, or
both envelopes in PBS at 4 °C for 30 min to allow bind ing. Samples were raised to
37°C for 15 min to allow for conformational rearrangements. Virions were adjusted
to the desired pH with 0.1 M citric acid. PBS, TPCK-trypsin (final concentration 10
~tg/ml), CTSL , cathepsin B (CTSB) (fina l concentrations 2 ~tg/ml) or CTSL buffer
alone was then added . Recombinant CTSL (R &D Systems) was preactivated by
incubat ion for 15 min at 10 µg/ml in 50 mM Mes, pH 6.0, on ice. Recombinant
CTSB (R &D Systems) was preactiv ated in 25 mM Mes, 5 mM OTT, pH 5.0, for 30
min at 25°C. After a 10-min incubation at 25°C, proteolysis was halted by the
addition of 300 µ1 ofDMEMIO conta ining leupept in (25 µg/ml) and STI (75 µg/ml).
Virions were then incubated at 37°C for 30 min to allow membrane fusion. 100 µl of
the virion mix ture was added in quadrupl icate to HeLa- Tva cells pretreated for 1 h
with leupepti n (20 ~tg/ml). The cells were spin-infect ed and incubated at 37°C for 5

Link:s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2079356...

OK...how about this one, Fisky? Remember your "questions" about "Fauci's e-mail"? And your observation of "note the date"?

If you literally googled the paragraph as is, you would've gotten your answer. But instead, I'm sure you also think it's on Fauci to help you not disseminate propaganda.

For those curious, the researchers, who were trying to develop treatments for SARS in 2004, wanted to use a substitute for the real virus in the lab so they don’t get infected during their work. This describes how they can recreate the spike protein WITHOUT making a live virus so they can test pharmaceuticals on it. The particles used don’t contain genetic material from a coronavirus.. that way the researchers are safe.

Some bush league propagandist copied the "methods" section and e-mailed it to Fauci, then "discovered" the e-mail and told EVERYONE THE TRUTH! Which Fisky promptly brought on here to "ask questions".

Inhibitors of cathepsin L prevent severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus entry

Link:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...

PCRF-Guy wrote:

This is a straight up lie. You don’t put someone on a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy for anything. Ever. You think we just do what ‘doctors in China said to do’??
A patient gets put on a ventilator when their lungs fail or their heart stops. Any patient on a ventilator has to be in an ICU. You think hospitals have such an infinite number of ICU beds that they just throw a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy? And then don’t give drugs?
We gave every ICU patient hydroxychloroquine, zinc, Vit D, H2 blockers, tocilizumab, and eventually steroids. Some of those helped and some didn’t.
The mortality in ICU patients on ventilators in the US is about 20%. Most of these are >65 yr old. The worst kind of respiratory failure (ARDS) has a mortality of 39%.

fisky wrote:

PCRF-Guy wrote:

This is a straight up lie. You don’t put someone on a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy for anything. Ever. You think we just do what ‘doctors in China said to do’??
A patient gets put on a ventilator when their lungs fail or their heart stops. Any patient on a ventilator has to be in an ICU. You think hospitals have such an infinite number of ICU beds that they just throw a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy? And then don’t give drugs?
We gave every ICU patient hydroxychloroquine, zinc, Vit D, H2 blockers, tocilizumab, and eventually steroids. Some of those helped and some didn’t.
The mortality in ICU patients on ventilators in the US is about 20%. Most of these are >65 yr old. The worst kind of respiratory failure (ARDS) has a mortality of 39%.

I was under the impression that HCQ, zinc, and Vit D were not routinely being used in a hospital setting as a treatment for covid. Can you provide a source that shows that every patient in ICU was given HCQ, zinc, and vitamin D? Thanks.

fisky wrote:

PCRF-Guy wrote:

This is a straight up lie. You don’t put someone on a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy for anything. Ever. You think we just do what ‘doctors in China said to do’??
A patient gets put on a ventilator when their lungs fail or their heart stops. Any patient on a ventilator has to be in an ICU. You think hospitals have such an infinite number of ICU beds that they just throw a ventilator as ‘first line’ therapy? And then don’t give drugs?
We gave every ICU patient hydroxychloroquine, zinc, Vit D, H2 blockers, tocilizumab, and eventually steroids. Some of those helped and some didn’t.
The mortality in ICU patients on ventilators in the US is about 20%. Most of these are >65 yr old. The worst kind of respiratory failure (ARDS) has a mortality of 39%.

I was under the impression that HCQ, zinc, and Vit D were not routinely being used in a hospital setting as a treatment for covid. Can you provide a source that shows that every patient in ICU was given HCQ, zinc, and vitamin D? Thanks.