Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

Point conceded...that you are a delusional liar 💩

Z should negotiate peace as was his promise when elected.

Instead he is weak and allows Azov and NATO to push their war agenda

No. The person from Geneva, who claims to have left the thread, was a massive exaggerator and liar, a hypocrite, and an all-around awful human being. He was a huge fan of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but was afraid to say it -- he lacked the courage of his convictions -- so he engaged in all kinds of common internet troll techniques, including deflections, non sequiturs, irrelevancies, conspiracy theories, and seemingly endless whataboutyou(?)isms. He was a total loser, and we eventually ran him off by throwing his own absurd, false posts back in his face. But you know how trolls operate - they just morph into someone else, and keep trolling.

Zelensky has put forth a very reasonable peace plan. Putin has said “no”. How many Russians do you think will die before Putin realizes he’s not going to win?

What was that reasonable peace plan?

Pro-Putin operatives in Germany work to turn Berlin against Ukraine

Is this kind of what's going on in this thread? I picture Russian Troll Farms assigning trolls to U.S. Message boards.

The plan calls for:
Radiation and nuclear safety, focusing on restoring security around Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, Zaporizhzhia in Ukraine, which is now Russian-occupied.
Food security, including protecting and ensuring Ukraine’s grain exports to the world’s poorest nations.
Energy security, with a focus on price restrictions on Russian energy resources, as well as aiding Ukraine with restoring its power infrastructure, half of which has been damaged by Russian attacks.
Release of all prisoners and deportees, including war prisoners and children deported to Russia.
Restoring Ukraine’s territorial integrity and Russia reaffirming it according to the UN Charter, which Zelenskyy said is “not up to negotiations”.
Withdrawal of Russian troops and the cessation of hostilities, the restoration of Ukraine’s state borders with Russia.
Justice, including the establishment of a special tribunal to prosecute Russian war crimes.
The prevention of ecocide, and the protection of the environment, with a focus on demining and restoring water treatment facilities.
Prevention of an escalation of conflict and building security architecture in the Euro-Atlantic space, including guarantees for Ukraine.
Confirmation of the war’s end, including a document signed by the involved parties.

Lolly’s Master who lied about his own backstory, which was central to most of his arguments, about being a wealthy, Porsche driving intellectual from “neurtral”Switzerland is now claiming he’s an ashamed American living in Tokyo.

Russia seems to be giving up on Bahkmut after months of trying to take the city. Prigozhin views scores of dead Wagner troops and accepts he can't break through Ukrainian defenses there. Another tactical defeat for Russia.

theguardian.com

‘Every house a fortress’: Wagner leader counts cost as Russia stalls in Bakhmut

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/peterbeaumont,https://www.theguardian.com/profile/pjotr-sauer

Grim footage shows Yevgeny Prigozhin visiting basement filled with dead fighters near Ukraine’s eastern front

Link:www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/03/...

On the bright side, many thousands of Russians died before Prigozhin came to this revelation that has been obvious to the entire world for the last 3 months. Just remember, every dead Russian soldier brings Europe closer to peace.

Grigory Karasin is absolutely butthurt that hundreds of Russian invaders got turned to fertilizer in Makeevka and wants to know who is responsible. Somebody should tell him that it's Vladimir Putin.

I said reasonable. No reason Russia would accept total capitulation.

Crimea, Donestsk ain't going back to Ukraine.

Weird that Russia closes borders to keep people from fleeing Russia while America closes borders to keep people from flocking to America.

Go figure.

Russia's not going to have a choice in the matter when their army is reduced to throwing rocks at the Ukrainians.

How many Russians do you think Russia is willing to sacrifice before they realize they made a grave mistake? 1,000,000? 10,000,000? 100,000,000?

40% of the territory Russia occupied in Ukraine has been liberated. That number grows every single week. When Russia has zero to show for its efforts, except for a huge number of casualties, do you think they'll consider their special military operation a success? Or the biggest blunder in the history of known civilization?

Victims of American foreign policy have suffered more than victims of US domestic policy.

To date.

Yup, lots of Russians have suffered from the weapons that the US has provided Ukraine. Thanks for the confirmation.

What part of this plan is unreasonable to you and why? Note, I'm not asking what part of this plan is unreasonable to Russia (they're f*cking dipsh*ts that don't matter).

The whole thing.

It's as if you think Ukraine is on Moscow's doorstep and can dictate terms.

All of the Americas south of the USA have suffered from Us foreign policy.

For starters