This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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valjean wrote:
@antivaccine types - I'm curious. Do you think the concept of a vaccine - i.e. a treatment that stimulates an antigen-specific immune response in a controlled manner - holds merit? Do you think that some vaccine types - e.g. live vs attenuated virus, SNALP aka mRNA vaccine, old school inoculation - are useful while others are bad? Or is there a particular vaccine additive - e.g. LPS, antibiotics, media proteins like BSA - that you think is bad? Imagine a world where the gubbamint isn't out to control your mind and legitimately cares for your well-being. Are vaccines safe in that world?
bumping so someone will answer my q
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Alex Jones Was Rght wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
Why am I a joke to everyone on here? I'm literally going for my PharmD beginning in the fall. I'm also at least able to decipher statistics
Because, "future pharmacist" beginning in the fall, you'll be shocked when you're actually in the workplace, how many of your colleagues never got the "vaccines" or noped out early, and who are writing and filling scripts for the "horse dewormer," while trying to undermine the "vaccines" openly or covertly. The numbers are so high that the system couldn't effectively persecute the antivaxxer MDs/Pharmacists/nurses/etc.
It's actually the opposite. I've seen many pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for ivermectin ordered by fringe doctors ala Ryan Cole. You'd be hard pressed to find a pharmacist who doesn't support the COVID vaccines.
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fastboy77 wrote:
Alex Jones Was Rght wrote:
Because, "future pharmacist" beginning in the fall, you'll be shocked when you're actually in the workplace, how many of your colleagues never got the "vaccines" or noped out early, and who are writing and filling scripts for the "horse dewormer," while trying to undermine the "vaccines" openly or covertly. The numbers are so high that the system couldn't effectively persecute the antivaxxer MDs/Pharmacists/nurses/etc.
It's actually the opposite. I've seen many pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for ivermectin ordered by fringe doctors ala Ryan Cole. You'd be hard pressed to find a pharmacist who doesn't support the COVID vaccines.
What, do you go to CVS and wait for people to ask for Ivermectin?
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
It's actually the opposite. I've seen many pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for ivermectin ordered by fringe doctors ala Ryan Cole. You'd be hard pressed to find a pharmacist who doesn't support the COVID vaccines.
What, do you go to CVS and wait for people to ask for Ivermectin?
Pretty sure you can only get Ivermectin if an MD orders it.
And that a pharmacist is obligated to fill it
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
What, do you go to CVS and wait for people to ask for Ivermectin?
Pretty sure you can only get Ivermectin if an MD orders it.
And that a pharmacist is obligated to fill it
Wrong. MDs order prescriptions but PharmDs have every right to refuse to fill it. No exceptions. See: MDs prescribing non FDA approved drugs for COVID
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
What, do you go to CVS and wait for people to ask for Ivermectin?
Pretty sure you can only get Ivermectin if an MD orders it.
And that a pharmacist is obligated to fill it
You obviously don't understand the role of a pharmacist. But no doubt, they've prevented some of your COVID denialist buddies from poisoning themselves with horse dewormer
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fastboy77 wrote:
Newname wrote:
Pretty sure you can only get Ivermectin if an MD orders it.
And that a pharmacist is obligated to fill it
Wrong. MDs order prescriptions but PharmDs have every right to refuse to fill it. No exceptions. See: MDs prescribing non FDA approved drugs for COVID
Nonsense.
An MD orders any FDA approved drug (which ivermectin is) the druggist has to fill it. The MD does not specify what the drug is to be used for. Have you never seen a scrip?
You are making stuff up and it makes no sense
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fastboy77 wrote:
Newname wrote:
Pretty sure you can only get Ivermectin if an MD orders it.
And that a pharmacist is obligated to fill it
You obviously don't understand the role of a pharmacist. But no doubt, they've prevented some of your COVID denialist buddies from poisoning themselves with horse dewormer
Can a pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription?
Refusing to fill a prescription is not against the law. Pharmacists can refuse to fill a prescription for a number of reasons, including:
The patient may be abusing or misusing the prescription drug
The patient may be trying to fill a prescription too early or in quantities against pharmacy law restrictions
The patient may be at risk of adverse effects due to drug interactions or an incorrect dosage
The pharmacy no longer has the medication in stock
The prescription is completely illegible
The prescription is altered
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
Wrong. MDs order prescriptions but PharmDs have every right to refuse to fill it. No exceptions. See: MDs prescribing non FDA approved drugs for COVID
Nonsense.
An MD orders any FDA approved drug (which ivermectin is) the druggist has to fill it. The MD does not specify what the drug is to be used for. Have you never seen a scrip?
You are making stuff up and it makes no sense
You really are stupid.
You don't think I know about the profession I'm entering?
Pharmacists aren't just drug fillers. They're experts in pharmacology, who very frequently correct life-threatening orders from docs.
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
You obviously don't understand the role of a pharmacist. But no doubt, they've prevented some of your COVID denialist buddies from poisoning themselves with horse dewormer
Can a pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription?
Refusing to fill a prescription is not against the law. Pharmacists can refuse to fill a prescription for a number of reasons, including:
The patient may be abusing or misusing the prescription drug
The patient may be trying to fill a prescription too early or in quantities against pharmacy law restrictions
The patient may be at risk of adverse effects due to drug interactions or an incorrect dosage
The pharmacy no longer has the medication in stock
The prescription is completely illegible
The prescription is altered
The prescription is missing required information like the doctor’s signature or strength of the drugYou're so stupid, you just proved my point. Pharmacists can indeed refuse to fill prescriptions. Thanks!!
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fastboy77 wrote:
Newname wrote:
Can a pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription?
Refusing to fill a prescription is not against the law. Pharmacists can refuse to fill a prescription for a number of reasons, including:
The patient may be abusing or misusing the prescription drug
The patient may be trying to fill a prescription too early or in quantities against pharmacy law restrictions
The patient may be at risk of adverse effects due to drug interactions or an incorrect dosage
The pharmacy no longer has the medication in stock
The prescription is completely illegible
The prescription is altered
The prescription is missing required information like the doctor’s signature or strength of the drugYou're so stupid, you just proved my point. Pharmacists can indeed refuse to fill prescriptions. Thanks!!
Yes.
For a limited number of reasons as stated above.
Not because the druggist disagrees with the drug indicated
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
You're so stupid, you just proved my point. Pharmacists can indeed refuse to fill prescriptions. Thanks!!
Yes.
For a limited number of reasons as stated above.
Not because the druggist disagrees with the drug indicated
So PharmDs go to school for 4 years just to do something the MDs can "easily" do themselves?
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
You're so stupid, you just proved my point. Pharmacists can indeed refuse to fill prescriptions. Thanks!!
Yes.
For a limited number of reasons as stated above.
Not because the druggist disagrees with the drug indicated
hmm
Typically, individual state practice codes allow pharmacists to refuse to fill a prescription if in their professional judgment the prescription is out- side the scope of practice of the prescriber; if the validity of the prescrip- tion is in question; or to protect the health and welfare of the patient.12 -
fastboy77 wrote:
Newname wrote:
Yes.
For a limited number of reasons as stated above.
Not because the druggist disagrees with the drug indicated
So PharmDs go to school for 4 years just to do something the MDs can "easily" do themselves?
MDs do not dispense drugs. They do other things.
Pharmacist's job is to properly fill the scrips, while looking out for things like:
The patient may be abusing or misusing the prescription drug
The patient may be trying to fill a prescription too early or in quantities against pharmacy law restrictions
The patient may be at risk of adverse effects due to drug interactions or an incorrect dosage
The prescription is altered
The prescription is missing required information like the doctor’s signature or strength of the drug21 -
Sad as hell what happened to Jamie Foxx…Hollywood made him get the clot shot and leaving him paralyzed and blind.
"safe & effective"
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Just one more trial
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Newname wrote:
fastboy77 wrote:
So PharmDs go to school for 4 years just to do something the MDs can "easily" do themselves?
MDs do not dispense drugs. They do other things.
Pharmacist's job is to properly fill the scrips, while looking out for things like:
The patient may be abusing or misusing the prescription drug
The patient may be trying to fill a prescription too early or in quantities against pharmacy law restrictions
The patient may be at risk of adverse effects due to drug interactions or an incorrect dosage
The prescription is altered
The prescription is missing required information like the doctor’s signature or strength of the drugThe pharmacist can certainly refuse to serve to someone they think the drug will harm.
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Newname wrote:
After reading this and several other articles from the last 3 days, it is starting to look like Jamie Foxx is suffering from a grievous vax induced injury. We won't know for sure until he issues a statement or appears in public and speaks about his medical situation.
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DanM wrote:
After reading this and several other articles from the last 3 days, it is starting to look like Jamie Foxx is suffering from a grievous vax induced injury. We won't know for sure until he issues a statement or appears in public and speaks about his medical situation.
Is there any indication that he got a vaccine anytime near his stroke (or even that he got the vaccine at all)? The article doesn't mention it, nor do any of the other link that it links to
Also, asking again:
valjean wrote:
@antivaccine types - I'm curious. Do you think the concept of a vaccine - i.e. a treatment that stimulates an antigen-specific immune response in a controlled manner - holds merit? Do you think that some vaccine types - e.g. live vs attenuated virus, SNALP aka mRNA vaccine, old school inoculation - are useful while others are bad? Or is there a particular vaccine additive - e.g. LPS, antibiotics, media proteins like BSA - that you think is bad? Imagine a world where the gubbamint isn't out to control your mind and legitimately cares for your well-being. Are vaccines safe in that world?12
