50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

forgot health stuff brown rice is deadly and most extra virgin olive oils are about as pure as Madonna tossed my Newman's Own

https://youtu.be/y7JCqlqE_-A?t=15

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cathyhuyghe/2014/03/05/the-scam-of-olive-oil-and-its-antidote/#a190af35cc14

This was a slow rebuild week trying to get over the very sore peroneal tendon I developed during my half-marathon two weeks ago. Also, the air quality in California’s central valley because of the Camp Fire far to the north continued to be a big problem, although generally less bad in the pre-dawn hours. My week:

Monday: 26 miles on bike in the foothills above most of the smoke. A lovely ride.

Tues: 4-mile easy run followed by 54 minutes on bike trainer.

Weds: 90 minutes on bike trainer.

Thurs: 6.5-mile run in Tucson, where I was giving a seminar at the University of Arizona. 48 degrees at dawn, dry and perfectly clean air—wonderful! I almost wished I’d arranged to stay in Arizona longer.

Friday: 90 minutes on bike trainer.

Sat: 10.5-mile easy run.

Sun: Foot sore after yesterday’s run. 40 minutes on the bike trainer, then drove up to the foothills with my husband and rode 21 miles of rolling hills. I had a little mishap that involved the speed sensor getting rotated and going into the spokes, stopping me dead in my tracks on an uphill; I couldn’t clip out in time and had a zero-mile-per-hour encounter with the pavement. Bloodied one knee but did no structural damage.

21 miles of running for the week isn’t much, but it’s better than nothing.

SC gal, congrats on the record! That course sounds absolutely brutal.

Igy, nice job with the race and I’m so happy to hear that you’re out there again!

Like many other schools and universities in northern California, my campus was closed on Thursday and Friday because of the bad air. I still don’t know whether we will be open Monday and/or Tuesday. If I were wagering I’d bet on having the whole Thanksgiving week off, but I can’t yet take any action based on that assumption.

Allen, I believe that Coyote and amkelly have mentioned that they also will be headed to Spokane next month. I don't remember if anyone else has said they are doing club XC.

Mike - I'm a MO native and would love to stop by to set a 20k record. Since you don't currently have one in my AG it should be pretty easy! Maybe when I retire I'll travel the U.S. looking for places to set new records ;-)

Tim L,

Thanks for your advice. I'm sorry I didn't know this yesterday. I was sore the last time I ran this race but not nearly as much as today. I just know it takes me longer to recover from hard efforts than it did even two or three years ago. Epsom salt soaks and a massage are on my schedule for this week.

Old Fart,

Oh, sorry, miss read.

Igy

Miss Read...my wife...misread...tired after putting up my Christmas lights....taking advantage of nice weather....cold coming later in the weeek....

Igy

I didn't post last week, but I ran 38 miles in 6 days (plus my Monday aqua running and strength & mobility stuff). Long run of 10+, 2nd run of 8 mi. This week, I did the same mileage, I think, but did a "workout" of sorts 3 x 2 min., 10 min. steady, 3 x 2 min. on Tuesday. Midweek longer run was 7.5, yesterday's long run (done a day earlier to accommodate my daughter's competition) was 11.3. I'm a little sore, but tomorrow's Monday and an off day.

I look to be on an incomplete B team for Spokane. Last time it was there, the ground was covered in snow!

MG

Glad that week is over. I seemed to struggle with fatigue and motivation. I ditched two runs minutes after they began just because I didn't feel like running. Maybe I'll be nice and rested for my Turkey Trot! I need to get my head back into the game...

The log reads about 37 miles. Basically missed two days. The workouts went ok though.

Mon: am: 4.9 miles. Morning wakeup run, no watch, no time. pm: 3.0 miles @ 8:16/mi. A run in the cold dark drizzle. Really didn't want to but got out just to get my miles.

Tue: Jogged 1/4 mile and walked home. Called it a day. Felt tired and achy.

Wed: 6.0 miles @ 7:23/mi. Early treadmill workout. Felt pretty good. 20 min E then 12x60sec on/off 6:00/8:00

Thu: 7.5 miles @ 8:15/mi. Late run on the treadmill. Finished at 8:00. I don't run very well this late. 8:27-8:00

Fri:7.0 miles @ 7:33/mi. Decent workout, felt pretty average. 4 E 32:13, 2 T 6:37, 6:29, 6x20sec @ 3% grade last mile

Sat: 6.0 miles. Easy run, no watch, no time. Late run, didn't get out until 7:00. 35 deg, dark and drizzle.

Sun: Fully intended to do a long run but wasn't feeling it after just 1/2 mile. Walked the remaining 2 mile loop home and called it a day.

Got the Turkey Trot 5K Thursday. No plans, goals or expectations. No Club Champs for us this year. Haven't communicated with the team for months. Boy we had a pretty good team just a few years ago...

Have a good week... Enjoy your Thanksgiving!

Dave

SCgal wrote:

My legs had nothing left for a sprint but I finished in 1:48:27, as 2nd master and 11:30 under the old record! In the end, it probably was good that I didn't race in FL last week.

Congrats on your state AG record, especially on a tough course!

Charlie wrote:

forgot health stuff brown rice is deadly and most extra virgin olive oils are about as pure as Madonna tossed my Newman's Own

https://youtu.be/y7JCqlqE_-A?t=15

I feel like I wasted 16 min of my life on this propaganda. If you are concerned about arsenic, soak your rice in a large amount of water for several hours and drain it before cooking. (This is true even if you eat white rice.)

My week.

M: swimming 1000m.

T: 4 miles.

W: elliptical 30 min, stationary bike 20 min.

R: 4 miles.

F: 4 miles.

SA: elliptical 30 min, stationary bike 20 min.

SU: 5 miles, stationary bike 35 min.

For the first time since early September, I was able to run on back-to-back days. My feet were sore, but I was able to recover quickly with icing and heating combo. 5 miles on Sunday was also the longest distance since early September. I did a "Falmouth road race" (about 33 min) video instead of the Central Park (about 44 min) video with my stationary bike after the run. (Those 20 min bike rides were done with the "Niagara Fall" video which lasts about 16 min.)

Monday was also the first swimming session in a few months. I should do it more often. Staying in cold water for 30-40 min followed by hot bubble bath is exactly what I need for my feet.

To each his own. I spent several hours reading various articles to try and figure out if this guy was nuts, I tossed my rice.

I figure that soaking white rice yep white has way less arsenic than brown and trying to figure out where it really came from was not worth the risk or effort. ....

I remember 1995 my Boss at Texas Ins. thought I was a crazy when i went into a tirade about hydrogenated oil being deadly. He said if it was that bad for you they would not put it in foods.

bon appétit

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2015/01/how-much-arsenic-is-in-your-rice/index.htm

Regular exposure to small amounts of arsenic can increase the risk of bladder, lung, and skin cancer, as well as heart disease and type 2 diabetes. Recent studies also suggest that arsenic exposure in utero may have effects on the baby’s immune system.

The USA Rice Federation says, "Studies show that including white or brown rice in the diet provides measureable health benefits that outweigh the potential risks associated with exposure to trace levels of arsenic." Consumer Reports food safety experts believe those levels do carry a risk.

This is not good news for those of us that love fried rice.

Charlie.....

"What is FDA recommending to consumers about eating rice and rice products?

Based on the currently available data and scientific literature, the FDA’s advice for consumers, including pregnant women, is to eat a well-balanced diet for good nutrition and to minimize potential adverse consequences from consuming an excess of any one food."

End of story. I eat brown rice once a week, not gonna kill me.

Olive oil, different story, four times the caloric density of white sugar. It's an unhealthy person's idea of a healthy food.

https://www.fda.gov/food/foodborneillnesscontaminants/metals/ucm319948.htm

KCgeezer wrote:

Charlie.....

"What is FDA recommending to consumers about eating rice and rice products?

Based on the currently available data and scientific literature, the FDA’s advice for consumers, including pregnant women, is to eat a well-balanced diet for good nutrition and to minimize potential adverse consequences from consuming an excess of any one food."

End of story. I eat brown rice once a week, not gonna kill me.

Olive oil, different story, four times the caloric density of white sugar. It's an unhealthy person's idea of a healthy food.

I try to follow Jack LaLanne's motto: "If man made it, don’t eat it.” It easier said than done, though.

However, you said the key: "A well-balanced diet." But a well-balanced organic diet free of chemicals, GMOs, pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, etc. I think that's where people are missing the point; food isn't what it use to be 40 or so years ago where it was free of the aforementioned toxins.

Back in the day a steak meant something. Nowadays our animal proteins are laden with growth hormones, antibiotics, vaccines, and the food they're fed is non-organic. Remember: when eating animals - you are what they eat. And our produce, if it isn't organic, is saturated with pesticides galore. Food quality = good health.

Eat, drink & be healthy. ?

Some interesting tid bits on Jack LaLanne:

I love Jack! His tv show was still playing in my market when I was a fat sedentary kid.

I think the recent Adventist-2 study that compared thousands of healthy eaters, omnis and vegs and vegans, made pretty clear that choosing plant based sourced food for 100% of your diet produced markedly different health risk outcomes with vegans way down the list on LDL and therefore heart risk. Not the reason I went plant based but good to know.

Dave,

Bummer no Club Nats for you/your team. Was looking forward to buying you a good IPA at Iron Goat Brewery. We (BTC Masters) have a record number of teammates headed for Spokane. And a talented M50+ squad. I'll be lucky to make the B-Team. We're expecting to register an A-B-C for M50+. Hope to see many of y'all there.

KP

Mon. 50 km mtn bike commute home from work. Hot headwind and legs ztill feeling 4 Peaks. Wasn't pretty.

Tue. Choppy 45 min lake kayak.

Wed. 8 km hike mapping out a possible course for a trail race.

Thu. 45 min kayak at the waterhole and jogged (shuffled) 1.6 km in 11 min. Nope legs and feet are not ready to run yet.

Fri. 6 km hike

Sat. 6.5 km hilly trail run with 300 metres elevation gain . 49 mins.

Sun. Slooow 8 km shuffle around town 52 mins.

I was surprised at how well I went at 4 Peaks, running 3 of the 4 legs quicker than last year. The short lead up time has however made for a slower recovery.

So far this week I am moving better.

L2B, been a tough last few weeks. I hope our Aussie/Wisconsin boy winning NCAA gave you a lift.

Charlie, the olive oil story surprised me.

We only ever use locally made stuff and know it is the real deal (some of my own olives in it sometimes). I have never come across that in Australia.

Hey Mo' Pak blew me away brown rice inorganic arsenic and counterfeit olive oil . Kinda like finding out Santa Clause is a ChoMo.

The Australian AOA seems pretty good

I went with COOC no COOC seal no buy

This one seems pretty good:

https://californiaoliveranch.com/our-story/news/

The FDA even got off it's butt:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28401382

so most 67 percent of the olive oil is still slimy

Next is up is researching all of the foods I eat on a regular basis maybe even start growing some stuff like broccoli sprouts