Official Covid Vaccine thread

No, it's a misleading if not outright dishonest post.

First of all, the study looked only at unvaccinated people. It did not compare immunity gained through prior infection with immunity gained through the vaccine. It does nothing to suggest that you won't be better protected by getting vaccinated, even if you've already had Covid.

Second, the headline is false. Although 99% of confirmed Covid positive cases had antibodies, 99% did not have antibodies 20 months after the Covid diagnosis. The median period was 8.7 months.

Among 295 reported COVID-confirmed participants, 293 (99%) tested positive for anti-RBD antibodies (≥250 U/mL, 44%; ≥500 U/mL, 27%; ≥1000 U/mL, 15%). A median of 8.7 (IQR, 1.9-12.9; range, 0-20) months passed since reported COVID-19 diagnosis.

Third, the authors themselves caution not to get carried away with the findings.

Although evidence of natural immunity in unvaccinated healthy US adults up to 20 months after confirmed COVID-19 infection is encouraging, it is unclear how these antibody levels correlate with protection against future SARS-CoV-2 infections, particularly with emerging variants. The public health implications and long-term understanding of these findings merit further consideration.

You can try to be evasive and talk about correlates of protection like Fauci and Walensky and try to mislead the public, but what you cannot ignore is the fact that the efficiency of natural immunity is far greater than vaccinated immunity. Natural Immunity outperforms vaccinated immunity (and even boosted immunity). In Mesa County, CO, the weekly breakthrough infection rate (176 per 10K) is still orders of magnitude higher than the weekly reinfection rate (35 per 10k). In the UK, the breakthrough infection rate is more than 3 times the reinfection rate across the entire pandemic. There is no reason to treat previously infected individuals any different than we treat vaccinated individuals.

Have you seen the document dump on the Pfizer Vaccine data? It's a bombshell. No wonder the FDA fought to keep it hidden for 55 years.

Here is the quick takeaway: By February of 2021, Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of death allegedly caused by the vaccine and tens of thousands of reported adverse events, including 23 cases of spontaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies and more than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders.

https://phmpt.org/wp-conten

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So....this should mean that every government mouthpiece that has forced vaccines on their people via threatening their jobs, not allowing entry to restaurants or other public places and/or terminating employees in many different industries who refused the JAB should be held Accountable.

In January, hospitals across the country were at the breaking point. There are plenty of news stories about that. I have searched for stories about the catastrophe that occurred after the hospitals "broke".  Can't seem to find any. 

Jan 7, 2022 "Kansas hospitals at ‘breaking point’ amid COVID surge"

kwch.com

Kansas hospitals at ‘breaking point’ amid COVID surge

@KWCH12

Kansas continues to see new highs in its COVID case rates, and hospitals across the state say they’re in dire need of help.

Link:www.kwch.com/2022/01/08/kansas-hospita...

Jan 17, 2022 "Colorado doctors group warns health care system is at a 'breaking point'"

9news.com

Colorado doctors group warns health care system is at a 'breaking point'

The Colorado chapter of the American College of Emergency Physicians is asking state leaders for help.

Link:www.9news.com/article/news/local/color...

Jan 18, 2022 "UChicago nurses say conditions amid surging caseloads are 'at a breaking point'"

hpherald.com

UChicago nurses say conditions amid surging caseloads are 'at a breaking point'

https://www.facebook.com/aaron.gettinger.161

Union pushing for law to establish staffing ratios in Illinois

Link:www.hpherald.com/news/local/uchicago-n...

Jan 18, 2022 "Oklahoma City hospitals are at breaking point, health care system leaders say"

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Oklahoma City hospitals are at breaking point, health care system leaders say | CNN

Ed Lavandera,Chris Boyette

Oklahoma City hospitals are short of staff and overwhelmed, with no ICU or inpatient beds available as the Omicron variant causes a surge of Covid-19 patients, according to an open letter from leaders of the city's four major...

Link:www.cnn.com/2022/01/18/health/oklahoma...

Jan 24, 2022 "Seattle hospitals at breaking point amid COVID crush of patients"

abcnews.go.com

Seattle hospitals at breaking point amid COVID crush of patients

ABC News

Seattle doctors say hospitals are reaching their breaking points as they deal with a crush of COVID-19 patients amid the latest surge fueled by the omicron variant.

Link:abcnews.go.com/Health/seattle-hospital...

Nothing that you're saying has anything to do with my post. The Johns Hopkins study linked by the Unicorn doesn't compare immunity from the virus to immunity from the vaccine, so you can't rely on it to argue that one is better than the other. And the fact that the website that the Unicorn linked which discusses that study used a headline that was flat out false raises a red flag for the quality of that post.

Qatar data show the mRNA vaccines are 90%+ effective against Omicron severe disease

What happened to my post with the video discussing the massive increase in myocarditis following getting the jab? It's in the data

No one has been forced to take the jab,purely a personal choice.

Anyway don't you have more 2 year old lies that you claim happened last month you wish to post so we can all laugh at you again.

When you have to keep moving the goalposts to actually get it "right," you're never actually right. Control and manipulation of information: that's what the oppressive commy regime in China does. 

Why these people believe the proven liars in politics and the proven money hungry crooks at big pharma is incomprehensible. They're either too clueless, lazy, careless, benefiting from covid hysteria or simply like being told what to do. 

People have been told take the jab or lose your job. Take the jab or you cannot participate in much if society.

And this establishment shill says nobody has been forced to take the jab.

You cannot reason with these people

Yep the most crooked politicians laugh at the people who obey everything the government tells them. Unconditional obedience is "for the dumb people"--and that's the words of a politician. So yesterday, we are sheep and pawns to a lot of them. But they need us to fulfill their agendas. They know it's all a game. They know human nature is gullible. They study human tendencies and behavior to take advantage of the follies of human nature. 

It's OVER. You may now return to your pre-March 2020 mode of living.

Wearing a mask outdoors will be probable cause for arrest.

CVS Health Corp. said demand for Covid-19 tests and vaccines is expected to fade this year, eroding a source of growth that helped insulate it from other pressures on its business.

The drugstore giant expects to administer about half as many virus tests and up to 80% fewer shots this year compared with 2021, it said in a news release Wednesday announcing its fourth-quarter financial results. Testing and vaccinations were responsible for almost half of CVS’s retail growth last year, it said.

I choose to point out the lack of effectiveness in the under 60 group because you seem to continually ignore them and basic common sense.

In the above example, the unvaxxed are similar to the unboosted in hospitalization rates. We know that half of these are not caused by covid. The typical all cause hospitalization rates per month in this age group is roughly 800/100k (that is the real number). Perhaps you have mastered Gematria and somehow 3 vs 800 is significant in a way only you can understand.

We can also think about the vaxxed vs the boosted during a month. We now know that omicron has little protection against infection. We also know that a person doesn't move to the boosted group until 2 weeks after the dose. The current cases are about 30/1000 in the last month. Compare equal numbers of unboosted and give them boosters at the beginning of the month. They are only in the boosted group for half the time. The hospitalizations on the chart are cumulative, but they contribute to the unboosted group for half the time. Assume the hospitalization rates are equal. The way this is charted puts 45 in the unboosted group vs 15 in the boosted group over the month, a ratio of 3. That is a weird coincidence that 4.8/1.7 ~=3. That could just be an artifact of how they group the data.

Harambe claimed that the boosted 80+ group in Alberta has better protection than the unvaccinated 12-29 year old group. It appeared to be a way to make the 12-29 unvaxxed group to be fearful because of some data only he has the seer stone to interpret.

The numbers have updated.

Deaths per 100,000

boosted 80+ 109.91

unvaxxed 12-29 3.48

This is about 32x the death rate

Hospitalizations

boosted 80+ 496.97

unvaxxed 12-29 230.01

This is over twice the hospitalization rate.

This is over the last 120 days and cumulative. The rates for the 12-29 group have actually gone down, but the rates for the 80+ group have rapidly increased in the last few weeks.

Still no correction or retraction. Boasting about your 7th grade math skills doesn't help if they apparently teach that in 8th. (8 is a larger number than 7).

Harambe cherry-picked a data point for one week.  It's was misleading BS when he did it, just as it is the multitude of times the usual suspects have done so over the past few years.  

US update...

- Cases 175k/day... down 75% from 800k peak back in Jan

- NYC cases 2k/day... down 95% from 39k peak. NYC is about two weeks ahead of the rest of the US so NYC is a bellwether for the rest of the country. 

- Deaths 2250/day... down 10% from 2500 peak.

- Deaths NYC 69... down 45% from 129 peak

- Cases in past two months: 29 million. That's more than 1/2 of the total cases (49M) in the past two years!

- 1st vaccinations: 120k/day. About half are 5-11 so only 60k adults/day are getting vaxxed for the first time.

- Boosters: About 200k/day... down over 80% from peak.

Kids don't mind wearing masks, right?

dw.com

COVID digest: Vaccine orders no longer needed — EU official – DW – 02/13/2022

EU Economy Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni has said the time for discussing vaccine mandates has passed. Meanwhile, a key German lawmaker said such a move would not find majority support in parliament. DW has the latest.

Link:www.dw.com/en/covid-digest-vaccine-man...

Vaccine mandate no longer necessary — EU commissioner

EU Economy Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni has said he saw no reason for governments to introduce a general coronavirus vaccine mandate anymore, given the declining severity of the pandemic.

"The discussion about mandatory vaccination against COVID-19 had its justification months ago," Gentiloni told the Funke Mediengruppe, an association of German dailies.

"But I don't think now is the time to discuss mandatory vaccination."

He noted the overall decrease in deaths and hospitalizations across the European Union.

"We are on the same path to loosening restrictions, country by country," the commissioner said.

Still a personal choice though.