Tzees - take note and get ready for your DC trip
https://twitter.com/AvengerResister/status/1441041361462042626?s=20
Tzees - take note and get ready for your DC trip
https://twitter.com/AvengerResister/status/1441041361462042626?s=20
Trollminator wrote:
https://twitter.com/shellaceous/status/1441021789774045190?s=20
also, spanky doesn't deny that the NYT story, detailing decades of tax theft and fraud by DJT, is false. He sort of agrees it's true. Which is pretty good for law enforcement looking into creating an IRS bill to be sent to DJT.
agip wrote:
Biden's successes:
Ending the forever wars
Cutting childhood poverty by around 40%
Crime has continued to fall
Economy growng faster than any time in a generation
Companies hiring like mad
Stock market soaring
de-trumpifying as much as possible
pushing vaccine mandates to try to end the plague
raised the cap on refugees
lots of climate change moves
I could go on
but if you read and watch right wing media all day, or thing war is good, or think government can't do anything to lower poverty, or that crime is rising, or that vaccine mandates are bad or that climate change is a hoax...then I can't help you.
Some things:
1) I agree with you about Biden's successes. Not all of them are really due to his leadership, but they have happened during his watch.
2) It doesn't matter if Biden is a "good" President or not, and for me, it never will. He's in there instead of that POS human garbage that is Trump, and that's all that REALLY matters.
3) Yes, right-wing media is just crap. Pure fiction and insanity.
4) Biden has a real issue. His poll numbers are not good. They aren't horrible like Trump's were, but they are not positive for him.
5) The best thing that could happen to Biden, and a thing that probably will happen, is that Republicans do well in the mid-term elections. It is typical, of course, for the opposition Party to do well in mid-term elections, and the effect of that is that many of them are then appeased, so they lose the fire a bit when it comes time for the Presidential election 2 years later.
6) The economy remains the biggest thing. If the economy is doing well in 2024 (and Biden is healthy and running), Biden will win. If not, he won't.
7) Trump will never again be President, so that's a good thing, and even if one of his disciples like DeSantis gets in there, none of them would be as insane as Trump was.
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Sally Vixxxxxxxxxens wrote:
nonequals wrote:
"RINO" was probably a questionable phrase before Trump. As in it suggests a certain Neanderthalic, "Me not like you if you not agree with me and tribe on EVERYTHING."
Now, give us a break using that term. What any Trumper means when they say that is, "R Refusing to Kiss Don's Behind on Everything." Exactly that, nothing less.
It really is more cult than political party. So pathetic. So dangerous.
Take out a single day of his life, and Jim Jones had nothing on Trump. And in fact, Trump likely out-shined him on virtually all others. And yes, some would - defensibly - stretch a bit further and compare 900+ to an appreciable fraction of nearly 700K.......
Why do you guys keep bringing up Trump? I am a conservative. I was never a "Trumpist" that you and Agip and all other Libs here like to slander those in the republican party. No conservative here brings up Trump - we were done with him long ago. The only reason you Libs bring up Trump is because that is all you have. The Biden presidency is foundering. The mid-terms is coming up and is going to be a landslide. The Republicans will control the Supreme Court, the Senate The House and the only you Libs will have is a senile, old fool in the oval office.
Regarding your first sentence, it's really too bad that you're not kidding.
I'll lay it out for you: If Trump is never born or Rs don't follow him, someone like Cheney is NEVER called a RINO (by anyone with any credibility), much less becomes a pariah in the R party. That ONLY happens if Rs obediently follow Trump. So, yeah, that's probably why he comes up. But you knew that. I hope.
And regarding your second sentence, if you really think that Cheney is a RINO (or any other R be primaried only because they criticized Trump), then you have no idea what a conservative is.
Liz Cheney is a conservative. Donald Trump is not. And it's disgraceful that the Rs STILL want him as their leader.
And they can use the now-meaningless term "RINO" all they want, but any thinking person knows that it now really means "A Republican who has rejected the Trump cult" (a sadly small group).
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
Biden's successes:
Ending the forever wars
Cutting childhood poverty by around 40%
Crime has continued to fall
Economy growng faster than any time in a generation
Companies hiring like mad
Stock market soaring
de-trumpifying as much as possible
pushing vaccine mandates to try to end the plague
raised the cap on refugees
lots of climate change moves
I could go on
but if you read and watch right wing media all day, or thing war is good, or think government can't do anything to lower poverty, or that crime is rising, or that vaccine mandates are bad or that climate change is a hoax...then I can't help you.
Some things:
1) I agree with you about Biden's successes. Not all of them are really due to his leadership, but they have happened during his watch.
2) It doesn't matter if Biden is a "good" President or not, and for me, it never will. He's in there instead of that POS human garbage that is Trump, and that's all that REALLY matters.
3) Yes, right-wing media is just crap. Pure fiction and insanity.
4) Biden has a real issue. His poll numbers are not good. They aren't horrible like Trump's were, but they are not positive for him.
5) The best thing that could happen to Biden, and a thing that probably will happen, is that Republicans do well in the mid-term elections. It is typical, of course, for the opposition Party to do well in mid-term elections, and the effect of that is that many of them are then appeased, so they lose the fire a bit when it comes time for the Presidential election 2 years later.
6) The economy remains the biggest thing. If the economy is doing well in 2024 (and Biden is healthy and running), Biden will win. If not, he won't.
7) Trump will never again be President, so that's a good thing, and even if one of his disciples like DeSantis gets in there, none of them would be as insane as Trump was.
Regarding the last part of #7, that's probably true (and EVEN that might be naive!). But even if it's true, that's an AWFULLY low bar. Trump and the Rs really might have permanently damaged norms. Is it comforting if we imagine a future R president who only clearly lies to us once or twice a week? Only pressures Executive Branch leaders to do bad things every few months? Shakes down foreign leaders more subtly? Tries to steal elections using at least slightly more respectable lawyers? Etc., etc.
It's very easy to be very pessimistic about the future, with or without Trump.
nonequals wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Some things:
1) I agree with you about Biden's successes. Not all of them are really due to his leadership, but they have happened during his watch.
2) It doesn't matter if Biden is a "good" President or not, and for me, it never will. He's in there instead of that POS human garbage that is Trump, and that's all that REALLY matters.
3) Yes, right-wing media is just crap. Pure fiction and insanity.
4) Biden has a real issue. His poll numbers are not good. They aren't horrible like Trump's were, but they are not positive for him.
5) The best thing that could happen to Biden, and a thing that probably will happen, is that Republicans do well in the mid-term elections. It is typical, of course, for the opposition Party to do well in mid-term elections, and the effect of that is that many of them are then appeased, so they lose the fire a bit when it comes time for the Presidential election 2 years later.
6) The economy remains the biggest thing. If the economy is doing well in 2024 (and Biden is healthy and running), Biden will win. If not, he won't.
7) Trump will never again be President, so that's a good thing, and even if one of his disciples like DeSantis gets in there, none of them would be as insane as Trump was.
Regarding the last part of #7, that's probably true (and EVEN that might be naive!). But even if it's true, that's an AWFULLY low bar. Trump and the Rs really might have permanently damaged norms. Is it comforting if we imagine a future R president who only clearly lies to us once or twice a week? Only pressures Executive Branch leaders to do bad things every few months? Shakes down foreign leaders more subtly? Tries to steal elections using at least slightly more respectable lawyers? Etc., etc.
It's very easy to be very pessimistic about the future, with or without Trump.
In a Trump-Biden rematch, Trump would win 51%-41%. Independent voters would overwhelmingly choose the Republican, by 20 points, over the incumbent. If the laughing hyena were to run, it's no better for the dems.
Trump 51%
Biden 41%
Trump 52%
Harris 39%
The reason this is significant is because Trump NEVER led in national polls against Senile Joe in 2020, or Crooked Hillary in 2016. Independents will go back to Trump, they have rejected both Biden & Harris.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2021/trump_2024_would_beat_either_biden_or_harrisGhost of Disco Gary wrote:
nonequals wrote:
Regarding the last part of #7, that's probably true (and EVEN that might be naive!). But even if it's true, that's an AWFULLY low bar. Trump and the Rs really might have permanently damaged norms. Is it comforting if we imagine a future R president who only clearly lies to us once or twice a week? Only pressures Executive Branch leaders to do bad things every few months? Shakes down foreign leaders more subtly? Tries to steal elections using at least slightly more respectable lawyers? Etc., etc.
It's very easy to be very pessimistic about the future, with or without Trump.
In a Trump-Biden rematch, Trump would win 51%-41%. Independent voters would overwhelmingly choose the Republican, by 20 points, over the incumbent. If the laughing hyena were to run, it's no better for the dems.
Trump 51%
Biden 41%
Trump 52%
Harris 39%
The reason this is significant is because Trump NEVER led in national polls against Senile Joe in 2020, or Crooked Hillary in 2016. Independents will go back to Trump, they have rejected both Biden & Harris.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2021/trump_2024_would_beat_either_biden_or_harris
For the record, at this point I fully believe Trump will run and win in 2024, and control both houses of congress.
The ruthless, cruel and criminal usually beat those wishing to stay within the lines. Especially when it's going to be pretty much a race war election.
But it's a long way away. I'm hoping Trump's legal problems are unsurmountable and he won't be able to run.
Michael Cohen thinks Trump won't run - that he's just extending his graft as long as he can. People are literally sending him money for free, no product needed. Trump will string them along as long as possible.
Cohen thinks that Trump would rather walk away and tell people the elections are rigged than risk losing a second time . Two losses would brand him a galactic-level loser and that is not something, Cohen says, Trump could deal with.
But I think he will run, win and we will be screwed again. He'll fire anyone at DOJ who challenges him and resume the criminal dealings that got him impeached twice. Congress will do nothing. White christians will be fine with it all.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
In a Trump-Biden rematch, Trump would win 51%-41%. Independent voters would overwhelmingly choose the Republican, by 20 points, over the incumbent. If the laughing hyena were to run, it's no better for the dems.
Trump 51%
Biden 41%
Trump 52%
Harris 39%
The reason this is significant is because Trump NEVER led in national polls against Senile Joe in 2020, or Crooked Hillary in 2016. Independents will go back to Trump, they have rejected both Biden & Harris.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2021/trump_2024_would_beat_either_biden_or_harrisFor the record, at this point I fully believe Trump will run and win in 2024, and control both houses of congress.
The ruthless, cruel and criminal usually beat those wishing to stay within the lines. Especially when it's going to be pretty much a race war election.
But it's a long way away. I'm hoping Trump's legal problems are unsurmountable and he won't be able to run.
Michael Cohen thinks Trump won't run - that he's just extending his graft as long as he can. People are literally sending him money for free, no product needed. Trump will string them along as long as possible.
Cohen thinks that Trump would rather walk away and tell people the elections are rigged than risk losing a second time . Two losses would brand him a galactic-level loser and that is not something, Cohen says, Trump could deal with.
But I think he will run, win and we will be screwed again. He'll fire anyone at DOJ who challenges him and resume the criminal dealings that got him impeached twice. Congress will do nothing. White christians will be fine with it all.
Hey, shouldn't you have saved this cheery prediction for a FRIDAY afternoon ?!!?
agip wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
In a Trump-Biden rematch, Trump would win 51%-41%. Independent voters would overwhelmingly choose the Republican, by 20 points, over the incumbent. If the laughing hyena were to run, it's no better for the dems.
Trump 51%
Biden 41%
Trump 52%
Harris 39%
The reason this is significant is because Trump NEVER led in national polls against Senile Joe in 2020, or Crooked Hillary in 2016. Independents will go back to Trump, they have rejected both Biden & Harris.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2021/trump_2024_would_beat_either_biden_or_harrisFor the record, at this point I fully believe Trump will run and win in 2024, and control both houses of congress.
The ruthless, cruel and criminal usually beat those wishing to stay within the lines. Especially when it's going to be pretty much a race war election.
But it's a long way away. I'm hoping Trump's legal problems are unsurmountable and he won't be able to run.
Michael Cohen thinks Trump won't run - that he's just extending his graft as long as he can. People are literally sending him money for free, no product needed. Trump will string them along as long as possible.
Cohen thinks that Trump would rather walk away and tell people the elections are rigged than risk losing a second time . Two losses would brand him a galactic-level loser and that is not something, Cohen says, Trump could deal with.
But I think he will run, win and we will be screwed again. He'll fire anyone at DOJ who challenges him and resume the criminal dealings that got him impeached twice. Congress will do nothing. White christians will be fine with it all.
You are the first lib here to admit that Biden is no lock to repeat- the rest on your side are completely delusional. One thing IS certain, the GOP will control Congress after the midterms and the Biden agenda will be practically kaput for the remainder of his one and only term.
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
agip wrote:
For the record, at this point I fully believe Trump will run and win in 2024, and control both houses of congress.
The ruthless, cruel and criminal usually beat those wishing to stay within the lines. Especially when it's going to be pretty much a race war election.
But it's a long way away. I'm hoping Trump's legal problems are unsurmountable and he won't be able to run.
Michael Cohen thinks Trump won't run - that he's just extending his graft as long as he can. People are literally sending him money for free, no product needed. Trump will string them along as long as possible.
Cohen thinks that Trump would rather walk away and tell people the elections are rigged than risk losing a second time . Two losses would brand him a galactic-level loser and that is not something, Cohen says, Trump could deal with.
But I think he will run, win and we will be screwed again. He'll fire anyone at DOJ who challenges him and resume the criminal dealings that got him impeached twice. Congress will do nothing. White christians will be fine with it all.
You are the first lib here to admit that Biden is no lock to repeat- the rest on your side are completely delusional. One thing IS certain, the GOP will control Congress after the midterms and the Biden agenda will be practically kaput for the remainder of his one and only term.
Probably yes, but nothing is certain.
Dems are ahead on the generic ballot and idiots like abbot will enrage many Dems to go out and vote. And lord knows what will happen between now and then.
But yes probably reps will win both houses in 2022.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
Biden's successes:
Ending the forever wars
Cutting childhood poverty by around 40%
Crime has continued to fall
Economy growng faster than any time in a generation
Companies hiring like mad
Stock market soaring
de-trumpifying as much as possible
pushing vaccine mandates to try to end the plague
raised the cap on refugees
lots of climate change moves
I could go on
but if you read and watch right wing media all day, or thing war is good, or think government can't do anything to lower poverty, or that crime is rising, or that vaccine mandates are bad or that climate change is a hoax...then I can't help you.
Some things:
1) I agree with you about Biden's successes. Not all of them are really due to his leadership, but they have happened during his watch.
2) It doesn't matter if Biden is a "good" President or not, and for me, it never will. He's in there instead of that POS human garbage that is Trump, and that's all that REALLY matters.
3) Yes, right-wing media is just crap. Pure fiction and insanity.
4) Biden has a real issue. His poll numbers are not good. They aren't horrible like Trump's were, but they are not positive for him.
5) The best thing that could happen to Biden, and a thing that probably will happen, is that Republicans do well in the mid-term elections. It is typical, of course, for the opposition Party to do well in mid-term elections, and the effect of that is that many of them are then appeased, so they lose the fire a bit when it comes time for the Presidential election 2 years later.
6) The economy remains the biggest thing. If the economy is doing well in 2024 (and Biden is healthy and running), Biden will win. If not, he won't.
7) Trump will never again be President, so that's a good thing, and even if one of his disciples like DeSantis gets in there, none of them would be as insane as Trump was.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
Biden's successes:
Ending the forever wars
Cutting childhood poverty by around 40%
Crime has continued to fall
Economy growng faster than any time in a generation
Companies hiring like mad
Stock market soaring
de-trumpifying as much as possible
pushing vaccine mandates to try to end the plague
raised the cap on refugees
lots of climate change moves
I could go on
but if you read and watch right wing media all day, or thing war is good, or think government can't do anything to lower poverty, or that crime is rising, or that vaccine mandates are bad or that climate change is a hoax...then I can't help you.
Some things:
1) I agree with you about Biden's successes. Not all of them are really due to his leadership, but they have happened during his watch.
2) It doesn't matter if Biden is a "good" President or not, and for me, it never will. He's in there instead of that POS human garbage that is Trump, and that's all that REALLY matters.
3) Yes, right-wing media is just crap. Pure fiction and insanity.
4) Biden has a real issue. His poll numbers are not good. They aren't horrible like Trump's were, but they are not positive for him.
5) The best thing that could happen to Biden, and a thing that probably will happen, is that Republicans do well in the mid-term elections. It is typical, of course, for the opposition Party to do well in mid-term elections, and the effect of that is that many of them are then appeased, so they lose the fire a bit when it comes time for the Presidential election 2 years later.
6) The economy remains the biggest thing. If the economy is doing well in 2024 (and Biden is healthy and running), Biden will win. If not, he won't.
7) Trump will never again be President, so that's a good thing, and even if one of his disciples like DeSantis gets in there, none of them would be as insane as Trump was.
You lyin’ Biden worshippers have permanent trump on the brain. 😂😂😂😂 must keep from thinking about what a horrendous job lyin’ Biden and the cackler are doing. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤡🤡😂
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
nonequals wrote:
Regarding the last part of #7, that's probably true (and EVEN that might be naive!). But even if it's true, that's an AWFULLY low bar. Trump and the Rs really might have permanently damaged norms. Is it comforting if we imagine a future R president who only clearly lies to us once or twice a week? Only pressures Executive Branch leaders to do bad things every few months? Shakes down foreign leaders more subtly? Tries to steal elections using at least slightly more respectable lawyers? Etc., etc.
It's very easy to be very pessimistic about the future, with or without Trump.
In a Trump-Biden rematch, Trump would win 51%-41%. Independent voters would overwhelmingly choose the Republican, by 20 points, over the incumbent. If the laughing hyena were to run, it's no better for the dems.
Trump 51%
Biden 41%
Trump 52%
Harris 39%
The reason this is significant is because Trump NEVER led in national polls against Senile Joe in 2020, or Crooked Hillary in 2016. Independents will go back to Trump, they have rejected both Biden & Harris.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2021/trump_2024_would_beat_either_biden_or_harris
Bahahahaha look at this clown still fully confident that Trump can win. Seek help! Play around with numbers all you want, Trump is the biggest political reject in modern political history, and any breathing D will always be light years better and would whoop him. He got his fat a$$ soundly beaten by mr vanilla.
Hey, anybody notice that gas prices are going down? And that inflation dropped in August?
Both of these were big concerns just a month or two back. Anybody following? Weren't you concerned about these?
formerly present wrote:
Hey, anybody notice that gas prices are going down? And that inflation dropped in August?
Both of these were big concerns just a month or two back. Anybody following? Weren't you concerned about these?
https://gasprices.aaa.com/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-14/consumer-prices-in-u-s-increase-by-less-than-forecast
and
crime is falling
poverty is falling
unemployment is falling
incomes are rising
etc
but the Dems are simply incapable of getting good news out. It's flabbergasting.
Uh huh. Rasmussen. Sure Jan.
"In 2018, Rasmussen Reports predicted that Republicans would win the generic ballot by 1 percentage point while the actual election results had Democrats winning by nearly 9 percentage points. This error of nearly 10 percentage points was the largest polling error out of major firms who polled the national generic ballot. Rasmussen pushed back against critics after their miss, claiming that 'the midterm result was relatively poor for Democrats compared to other midterms' despite the Democrats having scored a historic margin in the popular vote."
Sure Jan. wrote:
Uh huh. Rasmussen. Sure Jan.
"In 2018, Rasmussen Reports predicted that Republicans would win the generic ballot by 1 percentage point while the actual election results had Democrats winning by nearly 9 percentage points. This error of nearly 10 percentage points was the largest polling error out of major firms who polled the national generic ballot. Rasmussen pushed back against critics after their miss, claiming that 'the midterm result was relatively poor for Democrats compared to other midterms' despite the Democrats having scored a historic margin in the popular vote."
to be fair, 538 ranks Rasmussen at B, which isn't too bad.
the reason seems to be that while Rasmussen always is to the right of the mean in polls....in the last 2 presidential elections . the actual result has also been to the right of the polling mean. So while Rasmussen has been an outlier...they have correctly predicted that the right wing would do better than the average pollster predicted.
Escalation!
These guys won't show up to testify but at least the Dems are showing some backbone.
WASHINGTON (AP) — A House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol has subpoenaed four advisers and associates to former President Donald Trump who were in contact with him before and during the attack.
The panel subpoenaed former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, former White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications Dan Scavino, former Defense Department official Kashyap Patel and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon.
Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., wrote to the four men that the committee is investigating “the facts, circumstances, and causes” of the attack and asked them to produce documents and appear at depositions in mid-October.
The subpoenas are a significant escalation for the panel, which plans to launch the interview phase of the investigation after sorting through thousands of pages of documents the committee requested from federal agencies and social media companies. The goal is to provide a complete accounting of what went wrong when the Trump loyalists quickly overwhelmed police and interrupted the certification of President Joe Biden’s victory — and to prevent anything like it from ever happening again.
Hundreds of Trump's followers violently broke into the Capitol that day and tried to overturn his defeat, interrupting the certification of President Joe Biden's victory.
Insurrection 😷