Could've raised money without misleading his mental midget cult members
How? What could he have done that would raise this much in 11 or so days?
How indeed. And that’s the ethical dilemma. Do the means justify the ends? Is it ethical to raise money for charity using such a format where the everyday Aussie expects the athlete is in with a shot at an officially recognised world record? Is it ethical to name and shame companies for not getting on board, coercing and pressuring individuals and companies to donate? Is it ethical to build momentum for online fundraising by having partner sponsors present novelty checks at certain points in time?
It doesn’t sit well with me for many reasons elucidated in this thread. But it doesn’t mean I hate NB and his team and can’t appreciate what they’ve achieved.
How? What could he have done that would raise this much in 11 or so days?
How indeed. And that’s the ethical dilemma. Do the means justify the ends? Is it ethical to raise money for charity using such a format where the everyday Aussie expects the athlete is in with a shot at an officially recognised world record? Is it ethical to name and shame companies for not getting on board, coercing and pressuring individuals and companies to donate? Is it ethical to build momentum for online fundraising by having partner sponsors present novelty checks at certain points in time?
It doesn’t sit well with me for many reasons elucidated in this thread. But it doesn’t mean I hate NB and his team and can’t appreciate what they’ve achieved.
The amount he’s raised is great, but naming and shaming companies for not getting on board is in really poor taste.
Could've raised money without misleading his mental midget cult members
How? What could he have done that would raise this much in 11 or so days?
Hit his head continuously against a wall. I believe some bloke in solitary confinement did it , so maybe have a crack at that. Pain tolerance would be equivalent, and would knid of make the same sense as repeated master laps
So we have two groups- the Tik Tok followers and the Letsrun crowd. They seem to have opposite opinions. The TikTok followers know nothing about Ultrarunning and think Nedd is wonderful because of his fundraising achievements. They believe that he has broken a record, wonder why he isn't in the Olympics and want him to be made Australian of the Year.
The Letsrun crowd are very experienced and knowledgeable about multiday running and believe that Nedd has not earned his dues by competing in ultra races (where he would be thrashed) and has disrespected the current record holder by claiming to make a serious attempt when it was never even a remote possibility. They also feel that this event is not following the various rules that a proper record attempt (which would have to be a race) would insist on. (Eg. lane cutting, distance recording, non regulation shoes, pacing and possible non-allowed medical assistance). Some also question the validity of Nedd's Perth to Sydney run because he did not carry a tracker and relied on Strava data (which is easily faked).
The TikToks think that the Letsruns are a bunch of silly old men who hate anything new and the Letsruns think that the TikToks are just gullible halfwits who know nothing about running.
Sweeping generalisations I know, but they do broadly sum up the positions, so let's see if there is any common ground. Can we treat this run purely as a fundraising event which might raise a large sum of money for charity? Yes, Nedd made it out to be a serious record attempt, just as he did with his run from Perth to Sydney, but that's what you have to do to get media and corporate interest. If you don't use the words 'World Record Attempt' you will get nothing. Yes, the money raised may have simply replaced money that would otherwise have been given to other charities, but where do we draw the line? At the end of the day, he has gone out and raised a lot of money for a good cause, possibly inspired people to run who might not otherwise have considered it, and definitely given a very niche sport a huge amount of publicity that it would never have had otherwise.
Sure- this is clearly about Nedd becoming a celebrity and setting himself up for life, but is that really so bad? Let's not forget that our own god, Yiannis Kouros did everything he could to make money for himself out of running, both at the six day where he once refused to cross the finish line unless he was paid and also at Westfield where he demanded appearance money. Good on him too. As another example of our own shortcomings- Camille Herron set a female 6 day record in very dubious circumstances earlier this year. The scrutiny for that event was far less than for this one.
In both his Perth-Sydney and this 1000 mile run, Nedd has demonstrated a load of running ability, along with both physical and mental toughness. Let neither side ever mention records again. He may be uncouth and a bit of a drama queen, but he has steadfastly refused to give in, no matter how bad things have got and if that doesn't sum up our sport then I don't really know what does.
Coming into Nedds last 180 laps it’s hard to discourage the bloke. The amount of grit he has shown is unbelievable. Knowing he wouldn’t break the record he could of called it quit days ago.
and let’s be real it was never about the record he only used that as clickbait.
it was more likely about showing what someone can do when they train hard and put their mind to it
Of course it was a about the record. The record was used to generate money. Lots of it.
Back to the charity run: Nedd had 14.5 hours for the last 42.4k. Sounds plenty of time but it isn't when your body is totally wasted and all you want to do is sleep. Everybody who has done a 6 day race or longer knows that feeling. Of course most people have never done one.
These statistics from barefoot sports timing make no sense at all. Lap 122 got finished at 293:22 hours of running Lap 123 got finished at 296:31 hours of running
That roughly 3 hours and 9 minutes but yet it shows up at 1:53:57 with a speed of 6.76 km/h.
He finished 11th, was beaten by 40 minutes by a 54 year old lady and definitely cut about a mile off the course if you look at the map. Let's just focus on a real runner in here, hey?
He finished 11th, was beaten by 40 minutes by a 54 year old lady and definitely cut about a mile off the course if you look at the map. Let's just focus on a real runner in here, hey?
He was 9th yesterday but I knew that this lady had a chance of getting him.