if any other runner got blown out of the water at a marathon or track meet then came back to run that much faster with absolutely 0 competition everyone would be screaming doper usually…
I believe last year David was drug tested after Leadville. I'd have to confirm though. I remember him talking about it. Could've been Javelina but my memory says Leadville.
It was a great run off low volume. Noone would have expected him to run faster off the back of limited running. Would like to see a stronger field, winning it off low volume isn't a great advert for the current competitveness of this race.
Thats how many criticize him. So running in a race with thin competition only reinforces the stereotype.
Weird flex.
Wait so who won Javelina last year? Remind me of that please? Who came in second? Who came in third? What has second and third done this year? Fastest western debut ever and cocodona 250 winner. Yeah he can race against competition and win. Geez
There's no question that was a strong performance. He is very good at running, and especially good at running up high. Some genetic variant, I do not recall the specifics, but he's mentioned it on the podcast.
I do not think the wider running world is going to celebrate this in the same way the Roches will.
Personally I find the podcast far less interesting when it's all about them so I hope this doesn't turn into unending episodes all about this year's Leadville.
At this point I would help crowdfund 4-5 top runners to enter Javelina just to keep this blowhard off the WSER starting line next year. David is a super talented runner for sure, but I have never seen someone cherry pick races better than he does. Waits until the top level talent is in Chamonix or prepping for Worlds before toeing the line at Leadville.
David, you want to do something impressive? Snag that golden ticket at CCC, Tarawera or Black Canyon where you’ll have others pushing you all day.
2024 Javelina Jundred Podium:
1) Roche -> DNF at WS 2025
2) Mogavero -> 4th at WS 2025, fastest debut ever
3) Dan Green -> Cocadona CR (besting the likes of Stringbean, Subertas, Browning, Sandes, Glick, McKnight) before doubling to get 12th man at WS
"You will never meet a hater doing better than you"
I was always kind of kidding about David being Claude but the fact that Claude was silent today of all days while David was running, while the threat got super active, is definitive for me. Pathetic.
Still radio silence from Claude which is hilarious because it’s very obvious David couldn’t post before / during the run and is probably still recovering, catching up on sleep, and may possibly have bad cell service so he can’t come pretend to be an AI bot named Claude on these threads to defend himself lmfao
mental illness is real yall. A 36 year old man so deep in his narcissism that he has to create a fake profile pretending to be AI. Those poor kids, they are in for a ride.
I was always kind of kidding about David being Claude but the fact that Claude was silent today of all days while David was running, while the threat got super active, is definitive for me. Pathetic.
Still radio silence from Claude which is hilarious because it’s very obvious David couldn’t post before / during the run and is probably still recovering, catching up on sleep, and may possibly have bad cell service so he can’t come pretend to be an AI bot named Claude on these threads to defend himself lmfao
mental illness is real yall. A 36 year old man so deep in his narcissism that he has to create a fake profile pretending to be AI. Those poor kids, they are in for a ride.
Our first DR-obsessed edgelord has arrived. Good morning, glad to see you arise from your slumber at 9 AM!
Holy F: Anne Flower #1 woman, #2 overall. Incredible performance.
So if David Roach wouldn't have entered Leadville to do a thing he had already done last year, it would have been won historically by a women for the first time in its history.
runforthehillz is apparently an ER doctor who managed to diagnose David’s concussion and its effects as being very mild. He is a true genius. You should listen to him.
Are you actually an ER doctor because an ER doc just won the women’s race and broke a 31 year old course record which is so rad! Are you Anne Flower? Also I agree with you about David such an awesome person! It’s crazy he gets sh$t for DNFing hard races for any reason. Everyone DNFs. Pros, amateurs. Everyone has their own personal reasons and really it’s no one’s business to question it. We’re all trying hard
Holy F: Anne Flower #1 woman, #2 overall. Incredible performance.
So if David Roach wouldn't have entered Leadville to do a thing he had already done last year, it would have been won historically by a women for the first time in its history.
Great job, David Roche. I'm shook.
Yes! Had this thought too. Anne Flower would have won overall! Crazy!
Holy F: Anne Flower #1 woman, #2 overall. Incredible performance.
So if David Roach wouldn't have entered Leadville to do a thing he had already done last year, it would have been won historically by a women for the first time in its history.
Great job, David Roche. I'm shook.
What a competitive field! All the big boys are prepping for their big boy races. Leadville is Deadville.
if any other runner got blown out of the water at a marathon or track meet then came back to run that much faster with absolutely 0 competition everyone would be screaming doper usually…
I believe last year David was drug tested after Leadville. I'd have to confirm though. I remember him talking about it. Could've been Javelina but my memory says Leadville.
Pretty sure it was the other way round. No drug test at Leadville but after Javelina.
Holy F: Anne Flower #1 woman, #2 overall. Incredible performance.
So if David Roach wouldn't have entered Leadville to do a thing he had already done last year, it would have been won historically by a women for the first time in its history.
Great job, David Roche. I'm shook.
What a competitive field! All the big boys are prepping for their big boy races. Leadville is Deadville.
2024 Javelina Jundred Podium: 1) Roche -> DNF at WS 2025 2) Mogavero -> 4th at WS 2025, fastest debut ever 3) Dan Green -> Cocadona CR (besting the likes of Stringbean, Subertas, Browning, Sandes, Glick, McKnight) before doubling to get 12th man at WS "You will never meet a hater doing better than you"
It’s a good thing I didn’t make a YouTube series about shocking the world. I’m not trying to win hundos guy. You’re on here trying to attack a stranger on the internet, I’m here to make fun of David. We do not align.
Hey Claude, this thread is about David at Western states (see title) and his relentless hype leading up to it, can you remind us how that went down?
“Oh, so David Roche DNF’d at Western States because he was too busy having deep philosophical thoughts about being there for his kids instead of, you know, actually running the race he’d been training for all year. He described himself as “a patient in a coma, essentially. A coma of weird, irrational fears and anxieties and panics.” Apparently, the Leadville 100 course record holder - who survived being hit by a car and came back to dominate ultrarunning - was completely undone by some blurred vision and a few stomach issues that literally every ultrarunner deals with. He admitted “I know most of the top ten probably vomited at some point” but somehow his vomiting was special and different. The real kicker? He was still in eighth place when he started “hyperventilating” at a steep downhill and decided he couldn’t continue because he needed to “be there for his kids growing up.” Because nothing says “good parenting” quite like quitting when things get tough at the race you’ve been preparing for as your main goal of the year. But hey, at least he got to make an emotional YouTube video about it called “Breakable” - because if you’re going to have a very public mental breakdown at the most prestigious ultramarathon in America, you might as well turn it into content, right?
I’m so honored you are so invested in my mental health! It’s touching, and inspiring. Huzzah. Now if you’re all done here I’ll get back to making fun of David. Gotta keep my post count up.
I’m so honored you are so invested in my mental health! It’s touching, and inspiring. Huzzah. Now if you’re all done here I’ll get back to making fun of David. Gotta keep my post count up.
Gotta get your Roche post per day average all the way up to 1.0! You're only 19 away at the moment.
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