Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

seems most likely we'll get a North Korea/South Korea or East Germany/West Germany sitch here....Russia will rebuild the iron curtain in Ukraine. I'm sure RU can figure out how to do that well enough.

Main question is where it will be and how much of a fight the Ukrainians caught behind the iron curtain will put up.

This ^

Extremely well said.

Putin, a man who has been a leaders for almost 15 years is capable of tolerating 50/50 split in Ukraine. What about the actor/comedian/clown who publicly has stated fight to the last man? Zelenskyy has wasted the lives of Ukrainians for nothing. This all will end with a version of Zelenskyy losing. Does Zelenskyy know nation leader etiquette? For the good of the people, if the odds are against you, you surrender.

The vast majority of the 1000 posts on this thread were by posters stating Putin is a mean man. Such feminine energy. Finally some of you Zelenskyy lovers are saying Zelenskyy should surrender 1/2 of Ukraine. Soon, the majority of Zelenskyy lovers on this thread will state Zelenskyy should surrender 1/2 of Ukraine. Finally, eventually many U.S. citizens will contact their U.S. Congressperson and tell U.S. to cut off Ukraine. When U.S. Congress signals to Executive Branch, no more military aid, Zelenskyy will either be the fool he has been so far and actually fight to the last man or Zelenskyy will surrender. What a waste of money. What a waste of life. Putin would have accepted 1/2 of Ukraine day one.

I don't think anybody is saying that Zelenskyy should surrender 1/2 of The Ukraine. I think several posters have suggested that it's a possible outcome. Another, equally likely outcome is that Russian troops are driven out of Crimea and Putin shoots himself in the head. The only question is whether he's have one final tantrum and launch some nukes first. We can only hope that they're as poorly maintained as most Russian military equipment and land in Moscow killing a few hundred thousand Russians and making the whole city uninhabitable for a foreseeable future.

#Russia'sInsigificant #Putin'sAWarCriminal #TheOnlyGoodRussianIsADeadRussian

You know absolutely nothing about Russia, you racist piece of trash.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ROFLOL!

PS - "feminine" was a nice touch! Tee Hee

Have you shot an AT-4? It is a decent weapon for a very brief military encounter. AT-4s are a one use weapon. U.S. will eventually have to alter fiscal government budget for this U.S. military aid to continue to Ukraine. U.S. citizens will become numb to Ukraine. U.S. politicians will eventually tell Executive Branch no more AT-4 money. As I stated DAY ONE, unless N.A.T.O. actually fights Russia in Ukraine, Ukraine cannot win. Some of us know this stuff. Maybe you should comment on topics you know well.

russia has lost almost every war it's fought since 1900, except WW2, and that only with money, treasure and lives of the UK and USA. Not a great history of fighting, those boys.

Note that around 3 of those wars ended in regime change in moscow. I hope the same will happen this time.

Russia basically won WW2 by itself... You hate Russia. Great. That doesn't mean you can just lie about history.

oh adult

yeah, russia won ww2 by itself. ok. whatever. you're right.

just too much, you are. too much. your bitterness just seeps off the screen. But bitterness over what, exactly? that's the question.

Earlier you said Russia did it 50/50 with the real Allies. Yet another failure by you to stay consistent from one post to the next. It's a sweltering mess in that brain of yours, random stuff piled high all over the floor, stinking up the place.

Anyway, we've been over this, and you got biffed on it. You've been lied to, and you bought the lies like a piker. Russia's performance was pathetic in WW2. They had their hands out to the real Allies the whole time, while they somehow managed to get 20 million of their citizens, including 8 million soldiers, blown up. WTF? That is staggering incompetence.

Don't make me correct you on this again.

Do have anything sober and intelligent you care to say to me?

Have I shot an AT-4? No. Do I think shooting an AT-4 makes somebody an expert on international relations? No. Do I think shooting an AT-4 makes somebody an export on international economic policy? No. How do you think Russia is going to replace any of the people or equipment that they've lost in the first month of this war? The US and EU allies can supply a lot more anti-armor missiles than Russia can supply tanks, personnel carriers, and trucks. Hell, Ukrainian forces sank a damn Russian ship with absurdly cheap missile or drone strike.

The Russian economy was roughly the size of Florida's before it cratered due to sanctions. The US defense budget is half of the entire Russian GDP. The military aid to the Ukraine is such an insignificant part of the US budget that nobody has to do anything to keep that aid flowing indefinitely.

Now, if by win you mean The Ukraine isn't part of NATO, then sure. But, that was't going to happen anytime soon anyway. However, for Putin to cripple his economy, get tens of thousands of Russian soldiers killed or injured, and become the laughing stock of the world for the sake of keeping Ukraine out of NATO shows a stunning level of incompetence. For you to support him shows an equally stunning about of incompetence.

p.s. You're right that some people do know this stuff, you're just not one of them.

p.p.s. What do you expect to happen when the EU says thanks for the gas over the last few weeks, we're not paying you in Rubles and your demands to do so are a breach of contract so "Seeya later, and thanks for the free gas!"?

remember that pretty much the only person on the planet Stalin trusted...was Hitler. So Stalin made a non-aggression pact with Hitler. They were....if not allies....pretty close to buds. When Hitler attacked Russia, Stalin simply did not believe it was possible. So of course Stalin had not prepared any defenses against the Germans.

Oh man russian tyrants are fools.

I should have pointed out that one reason Hitler had so much success in WW2 is that Stalin trusted him, kept him full with gasoline and food and raw materials. And then if Stalin had taken the German threat seriously he could have prepared a defense. And probably not let the Nazis use russian airfields for practice.

Sure would have been nice if Russia had built up defenses against germany instead of signing an alliance with it.

The length of time Putin has been a "leaders" [sic] is irrelevant. He has been a thief and murderer for even longer. As for Zelenskyy losing and Putin winning, Zelenskyy is trying to save his country from becoming a Russian puppet state. If he retains a sizable part of his territory and independence, he has a partial victory. Meanwhile, Vlad the hospital bomber will not have demilitarized Ukraine (which was a stated goal) and will not have all of Ukraine as a puppet state. He will have lost many soldiers and much equipment, ravaged his own economy, prompted Germany and Sweden to increase military budgets, and pushed several former Soviet vassal states closer to the West from fear for their own territorial integrity. Russians with the ability to leave are leaving, and Russia has had a birth rate issue for some time.

The terminology in your post to which I am responding and the your post that follows it suggests that you aren't comfortable writing in English. Perhaps you would be more persuasive on a board using your native language. Perhaps on such a board phrases such as 'nation leader etiquette' will make sense.

After the conclusion of this 'special military operation' Russia's economy will remain a third world extraction and kleptocracy model with even less of a chance for transition to something more sustainable. Does your model for 'nation leader etiquette' have any room for competence as a measurement of success, or does it just give points for poisoning and imprisoning political adversaries and invading countries and shooting and bombing civilians?